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Old November 12th, 2013, 11:26 AM
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If you cant stop rape, enjoy it, says CBI director Ranjit Sinha


If you cant stop rape, enjoy it, says CBI director Ranjit Sinha


The director of the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), Ranjit Sinha, on Tuesday made out a case for legalising betting in sports, arguing if you cant prevent rape, enjoy it.

Sinhas comments immediately drew the ire of women activists, and of many on the social media, who called it shameful.

Sinha later told Hindustan Times he was just making a point, that it is very difficult to enforce a ban on betting, that you can make a law but there are already so many and it is difficult to enforce. Lotteries are already legal. So I said betting could be legalized, it can be taxed. To make this point, I just used a proverb.

Its a malicious propaganda, its hitting below the belt, and its unfair, he added.

The controversial comment came during a question-answer session as part of the CBIs golden jubilee celebrations that veered towards the desirability of legalising betting, given the recent IPL spot-fixing scandals.
There are lotteries in states. If we can have casinos in tourist resorts and if the government can declare schemes for voluntary disclosure of black money, what is the harm in legalizing betting? Above all, do we have the enforcement agencies... it is very easy to say... if you cant enforce it, it is like if you cant prevent rape, enjoy it. It is better to legalise it and earn some revenue rather than throwing your hands up and letting things happen as it were, Sinha told an audience of sportspersons and officials.

Such a senior police officer who is in a very responsible position and investigates criminal cases should not have passed such a remark, said Ranjana Kumari of the Centre for Social Research.

It is not acceptable and he should apologise for it. It has become a habit of people in senior positions to treat the issue of sexual assault lightly, she added.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-...1-1150471.aspx
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Re: If you cant stop rape, enjoy it, says CBI director Ranjit Sinha

What a Jerk ....... What a poor example..........
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Shit. Filthy land ... disgusting people ... culture and morals adopted from the lost lands of Sodom and Gomorrah. And we wonder why ...
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Re: If you cant stop rape, enjoy it, says CBI director Ranjit Sinha

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Re: If you cant stop rape, enjoy it, says CBI director Ranjit Sinha

The irony is simply palpitating, he has to eat his words now.

His jhingalala is inevitable...now he will have to enjoy it!!

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Re: If you cant stop rape, enjoy it, says CBI director Ranjit Sinha

Abhi iska rape karo - aur puchho enjoy ho raha hai ?
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Does the CBI Director visit Echarcha.com ?

I learnt of this statement only in echarcha bylanes first and have seen many use it ...Can't think of anyone in mainstream media use it ..
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Re: If you cant stop rape, enjoy it, says CBI director Ranjit Sinha

Same old story,said sorry

CBI director Ranjit Sinha expresses regret over rape remarks




NEW DELHI: Faced with criticism over his remark on rape, CBI director Ranjit Sinha on Wednesday expressed regret if he had hurt anyone inadvertently, saying he has deep sense of regard and respect for women and commitment to gender issues.

In a statement, Sinha said he had made the comment in the context of legalizing betting in sports.

"I gave my opinion that betting should be legalized and that if the laws cannot be enforced that does not mean that laws should not be made. This is as erroneous as saying that if rape is inevitable one should lie back and enjoy it.

"I regret any hurt caused as the same was inadvertent and unintended. I reiterate my deep sense of regard and respect for women and commitment to gender issues," he said.

Sinha was participating in a panel discussion being moderated by editor-in-chief of India Express Shekhar Gupta. Former Indian cricket captain Rahul Dravid and BCCI's anti-corruption chief RN Sawani were among other participants.

The CBI director, who was on the panel of a session on "Ethics and integrity in sports - need for a law and role of CBI", had said last night that there was no harm in legalizing betting in the country.

"If you cannot enforce the ban on betting, it is like saying if you can't prevent rape, you enjoy it", he had said.

Sinha maintained today that the law should be strictly enforced and absence of enforcement or lack of will for does not mean that law the should not be made.

The CBI chief's statement follows angry reactions from several women organizations including National Commission for Women.

"Ranjit Sinha has made a controversial statement. We not only condemn it, but also protest against it. How can he make comparison with a heinous offence like rape when the rape laws are changing.

"He holds such a high position and is a protector of the law, said NCW member Nirmala Samant Prabhavalkar.

"We will take proper action and will definitely see to it that such a kind of thing is not tolerated," she said.

CPM leader Brinda Karat condemned Sinha's statement and demanded his resignation.

"I am absolutely outraged that an officer from a responsible office can make such an utterly offensive analysis. I do believe that there should be a strong message sent that it is just intolerable and he has to quit office," she said..

The point is not just the remark, but the position he holds, where he is a part of investigations in so many cases of sexual assault against women, and if the head of this agency trivialises sexual assault in this manner, what is the message which goes to those who are investigating the cases, Karat said.

"He cannot continue in the office. This is also a strong case for prosecution," the CPM leader said.

Former IPS office Kiran Bedi said the CBI chief has "blundered" with his words and he must tender a public apology for his comment.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/25694808.cms
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NEW DELHI: Faced with criticism over his remark on rape, CBI director Ranjit Sinha on Wednesday expressed regret if he had hurt anyone inadvertently, saying he has deep sense of regard and respect for women and commitment to gender issues.
Anyone who has an iota of respect for women do not say things like this you MORON
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Anyone who has an iota of respect for women do not say things like this you MORON
Ok .. torches, pitchforks ...

"If you cannot enforce the ban on betting, it is like saying if you can't prevent rape, you enjoy it", he had said.


If this is what the guy actually said, I dont see the big problem. He is not saying that a woman should enjoy the rape. He is using that statement in the context of how ridiculous it is. I dont know the exact words he used - I just copied this from the news report above. But I dont see anything wrong with this comment.

The fact that the dude looks like a serial rapist should be immaterial to this discussion
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Re: If you cant stop rape, enjoy it, says CBI director Ranjit Sinha

I don't see a problem either, its an analogy one has heard for decades. If rape is inevitable, might as well enjoy the sex. The word rape is used as metaphor here. Same as 'dehati aurat' barb used by Nawaz Hussain for MMS.
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Ok .. torches, pitchforks ...

"If you cannot enforce the ban on betting, it is like saying if you can't prevent rape, you enjoy it", he had said.


If this is what the guy actually said, I dont see the big problem. He is not saying that a woman should enjoy the rape. He is using that statement in the context of how ridiculous it is. I dont know the exact words he used - I just copied this from the news report above. But I dont see anything wrong with this comment.

The fact that the dude looks like a serial rapist should be immaterial to this discussion
But the link shows (on the first line itself) what he said Melly. He is backtracking now...anyway, what a stupid analogy. Being the head of CBI, he probably should have chosen a different set of words.

he sure looks scary.
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But the link shows (on the first line itself) what he said Melly. He is backtracking now...anyway, what a stupid analogy. Being the head of CBI, he probably should have chosen a different set of words.

he sure looks scary.
You fell for the trap too? If you take one piece of sentence out of context, anyone can make a big deal out of it. Again, not knowing the exact words and the context it was said in, all the women jump in, saadi uthaake.

I just saw the video of the press conference ... and while this is an unfortunate analogy, no doubt, he truly is just trying to show how ridiculous the statement is.

I just think people have become too sensitive to the word "rape". As soon as someone says it, the press tries to blow it out of proportion, thereby cheapening the actual efforts that should be made to stop the crime itself.
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You fell for the trap too? If you take one piece of sentence out of context, anyone can make a big deal out of it. Again, not knowing the exact words and the context it was said in, all the women jump in, saadi uthaake.

I just saw the video of the press conference ... and while this is an unfortunate analogy, no doubt, he truly is just trying to show how ridiculous the statement is.

I just think people have become too sensitive to the word "rape". As soon as someone says it, the press tries to blow it out of proportion, thereby cheapening the actual efforts that should be made to stop the crime itself.
Ok...I re-read the article. you are right, i was wrong. He did not intend to say people should enjoy rape if they cant prevent it.
Stupid...very very crude analogy. His statement was very ambiguous too; at least I felt so reading it.
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Ok...I re-read the article. you are right, i was wrong. He did not intend to say people should enjoy rape if they cant prevent it.
Stupid...very very crude analogy. His statement was very ambiguous too; at least I felt so reading it.
This is not your or my fault, we dont have the time, usually, to go through and listen to actual press conferences and read transcripts to get the true context of certain things. We rely on the media/reporters to filter that down and OBJECTIVELY report on the events. The problem is that its sensationalism that sells the news. So they do this every time. I can take one of your previous posts, quote a portion of it, and make it look like you are an evil person. Its really easy. You want me to do it?
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