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Old August 28th, 2011, 02:04 PM
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Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

Mahatma Gandhi had been always strongly promoted the hierarchical caste system and also supported to Chatur-Varna. On same time, he had delivered many speeches to show the sympathy towards the issues of untouchabilty. That means Mahatma Gandhi had played double standards about the issues of umtouchability. I believe that you must aware that our hierarchical caste system & Chatur-Varna are root cause of untouchability.


Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar struggled in his whole life to get political and legal rights to ensure the social and economical upliftment of untouchables. But on the other hand Mahatma Gandhi had been always tried to put obstacles in efforts of Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar to ensure the rights of depressed community.


Meaning of "Harijan"

“We know the meaning of the word "Harijan". It means bastard.”

Why in our opinion, "Harijan" means bastard? It is necessary to know. In Karnataka, there is a temple of goddess Yelamma. In that temple, the young girls belonging to scheduled castes and some backward castes are presented to the goddess. These girls are called as "Devdasis", means servants of gods. The brahmin priest and pandas indulge in sex with these girls, but they do not owe the responsibility for the same. They leave it to god. When these Devdasis become pregnant and give birth to a child, these children are called "Harijan" means children of God. Infact, they are the children of Priests and Pandas. Why Gandhi called only untouchables as "Harijan”?


If harijans mean children of god, then Gandhi is also a child of god. Then, why Gandhi did not call himself as child of god? Because Gandhi was knowing the real meaning of the word "Harijan". Hence, he did not call himself as Harijan.


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Old August 28th, 2011, 02:56 PM
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Re: Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

Interesting interpretation of the word.

So in reality Gandhi called them bastards and now Anna is the self proclaimed second Gandhi
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Re: Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

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Interesting interpretation of the word.

So in reality Gandhi called them bastards and now Anna is the self proclaimed second Gandhi
reminds me that one time....Maya aunti used this word for Gandhi (no offence here)

IF Dalits are Harijan (Children of God) if so then whos son was Gandhi???
"child of Shaitan?" - if that is not true then all should be called Harijan....panga hi khatam

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Re: Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

Gandhiji tried to give dalits a good name so they're not referred to as... well bad names. Now Mayawati has a problem with it and harijans get all excited
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Re: Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

Should they now be called "Mayajan" ??


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Re: Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

Carbage by any other name would still smell and rest of the shit which normally follows. Low castes get bad reps otherwise how are 90% of us Indians any less (edited). Money and fame doesn't necessarily equate to class ... not with us Indian. Some of our rich, politicians, government employees, Bollywood hijras, and cricket's mofo 12 are fine example ... education does nothing to us. 90% of us ... true blue Dalits. Don't come cursing if my words offend you ... truth is bitter ... always. And you are reading an Indian ... so don't go no bullshitting.
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Re: Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

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Should they now be called "Mayajan" ??


they are calling themselves Bahujan (i guess...)

someone asked Jan Lok Pal bill to be renamed to Bahujan Lokpal bill..


And how tf they arrived at Harijan means bastard?
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And how tf they arrived at Harijan means bastard?
when we are asked whose children we are--we say so and so's.

we dont say we are children of god .

children of god are those who dont have fathers . more correctly ,the father is unknown and doesn't care for them . so they are left to god.....

today ,the word dalit is politically correct--it means oppressed , crushed , trodden over etc . thats what SCs want to believe they are .

harijan is politically incorrect today--like calling an african a negro.

of course , gandhi didn't mean to call them bastards . but the word has such connotations .

the issue is complicated by the fact that dalits like to believe that gandhi was not serious about treating them as equals .

of course , he meant to uplift them , but he used to look upon them in paternalistic , fatherly way--as a superior who wanted to see his inferiors lead a better life , not as someone who wanted them to be equals .
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Re: Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

Children, the greatest harijan of them all was Yesu. All dalits should now follow him and convert themselves onto the path to God.

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Children, the greatest harijan of them all was Yesu. All dalits should now follow him and convert themselves onto the path to God.

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BKN will come chasing you for this. Churches are known to convert Harijans into christians and then come back asking for reservation for Harijan Christians !! !!LOL!!
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BKN will come chasing you for this. Churches are known to convert Harijans into christians and then come back asking for reservation for Harijan Christians !! !!LOL!!
nah...I don't believe in any God..and on the top of that Jesu???
No one even knows his father...aasmaan se tapka tha kya..pata nahi uski mom ne kidhar muh maara aur public ko yeda banaya..ki koi Unknown God ne pet me bachha daala..

Ambedkar had already rejected the work..Hari-Jan aka son of God.

Now thsoe mayawati idiots are coming up with some funny idea of Mulnivasi Bahujan..asking Brahmins to Leave the country (just in their dreams)
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nah...I don't believe in any God..and on the top of that Jesu???
No one even knows his father...aasmaan se tapka tha kya..pata nahi uski mom ne kidhar muh maara aur public ko yeda banaya..ki koi Unknown God ne pet me bachha daala..

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Exactly. Look at first post in thread for what such people are called. Harijan, meaning god knows who their fathers are. Now, who is the most famous harijan of all... guess?
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Re: Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

Who is Gandhi to give anyone names? It is like Muhammad calling non believers as Kafirs
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Re: Interesting explanation as to why dalits rejected the word ' harijan ' that Gandhi coined for them

interesting and seems to be true;
i knew lot about gandhi which makes me easy to believe this above. he was always cunning and tricky .......


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Mahatma Gandhi had been always strongly promoted the hierarchical caste system and also supported to Chatur-Varna. On same time, he had delivered many speeches to show the sympathy towards the issues of untouchabilty. That means Mahatma Gandhi had played double standards about the issues of umtouchability. I believe that you must aware that our hierarchical caste system & Chatur-Varna are root cause of untouchability.


Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar struggled in his whole life to get political and legal rights to ensure the social and economical upliftment of untouchables. But on the other hand Mahatma Gandhi had been always tried to put obstacles in efforts of Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar to ensure the rights of depressed community.


Meaning of "Harijan"

“We know the meaning of the word "Harijan". It means bastard.”

Why in our opinion, "Harijan" means bastard? It is necessary to know. In Karnataka, there is a temple of goddess Yelamma. In that temple, the young girls belonging to scheduled castes and some backward castes are presented to the goddess. These girls are called as "Devdasis", means servants of gods. The brahmin priest and pandas indulge in sex with these girls, but they do not owe the responsibility for the same. They leave it to god. When these Devdasis become pregnant and give birth to a child, these children are called "Harijan" means children of God. Infact, they are the children of Priests and Pandas. Why Gandhi called only untouchables as "Harijan”?


If harijans mean children of god, then Gandhi is also a child of god. Then, why Gandhi did not call himself as child of god? Because Gandhi was knowing the real meaning of the word "Harijan". Hence, he did not call himself as Harijan.


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