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Why Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar rejected islam

When Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar and his followers decided to reject hinduism for all the tyranny and the humiliations that the upper castes had heaped upon the lower castes over the centuries ,there were plenty of offers for him to convert to islam from muslim leaders eager to increase their fold .

These leaders held out the promise of equality that islam was supposed to give and promised that dalits would lead a life of equal rights if they converted to islam ,something that was denied to them in hinduism.

But Babasaheb decisively rejected islam .....

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Ambedkar was critical of Islam and its practices in South Asia. While justifying the Partition of India, he condemned the practice of child marriage in Muslim society, as well as the mistreatment of women.

He said,

'' No words can adequately express the great and many evils of polygamy and concubinage, and especially as a source of misery to a Muslim woman. Take the caste system. Everybody infers that Islam must be free from slavery and caste.[While slavery existed], much of its support was derived from Islam and Islamic countries. While the prescriptions by the Prophet regarding the just and humane treatment of slaves contained in the Koran are praiseworthy, there is nothing whatever in Islam that lends support to the abolition of this curse. But if slavery has gone, caste among Musalmans [Muslims] has remained. ''

He wrote that Muslim society is "even more full of social evils than Hindu Society is" and criticized Muslims for sugarcoating their sectarian caste system with euphemisms like "brotherhood". He also criticized the discrimination against the Arzal classes among Muslims who were regarded as "degraded", as well as the oppression of women in Muslim society through the oppressive purdah system. He alleged that while Purdah was also practiced by Hindus, only among Muslims was it sanctioned by religion. He criticized their fanaticism regarding Islam on the grounds that their literalist interpretations of Islamic doctrine made their society very rigid and impermeable to change. He further wrote that Indian Muslims have failed to reform their society unlike Muslims in other countries like Turkey.

In a "communal malaise", both groups [Hindus and Muslims] ignore the urgent claims of social justice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._R._Ambedkar

Unlike the opponents of Hinduism who blame Hindus for the decline of Buddhism in India on baseless ground, Babsaheb considered Islam to be responsible for the fall of Buddhism. Dr. BR Ambedkar writes, "There is no doubt that the fall of Buddhism in India was due to the invasions of the Musalmans. Islam came out as the enemy of the ‘But'. The word ‘But' as everybody knows is an Arabic word and means an idol. Not many people however know what the derivation of the word ‘But' is. ‘But' is the Arabic corruption of Buddha. Thus the origin of the word indicates that in the Muslim mind idol worship had come to be identified with the religion of the Budhha." On the issue of destruction of Buddhist monasteries he writes, "The Musalman invaders sacked the Budhhist Universities of Nalanda, Vikramasila, Jagaddala, Odantapuri to name only a few. They razed to the ground Budhhist monasteries with which the country was studded." Babasaheb further writes, "Such was the slaughter of the Budhhist priesthood perpetrated by the Islamic invaders. The axe was struck at the very root. For by killing the Budhhist priesthood Islam killed Budhhism."

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Re: Why Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar rejected islam

But his re-invention of Buddhism is a big headache today. Yet not as much as our friendly neighbourhood people of peace.
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Re: Why Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar rejected islam

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"The Musalman invaders sacked the Budhhist Universities of Nalanda, Vikramasila, Jagaddala, Odantapuri to name only a few. They razed to the ground Budhhist monasteries with which the country was studded." Babasaheb further writes, "Such was the slaughter of the Budhhist priesthood perpetrated by the Islamic invaders. The axe was struck at the very root. For by killing the Budhhist priesthood Islam killed Budhhism."....
And the world stood by helplessly while the Bamian Buddhas were razed to ground
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Re: Why Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar rejected islam

He is an intelligent man and always tried to guide his followers in the right path. If only the Mayawati's and Paswan's of today have an iota of wisdom that he had.
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Re: Why Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar rejected islam

neo-buddhism was next biggest piece of shit which was introduced thanks to the brilliance of bhimrao.
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Re: Why Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar rejected islam

I agree with Gudgudi pai that Ambedkar was a brilliant and intelligent man...but he was not a visionary. Visionaries do not rub their patrons in a wrong way. A story that I have heard from my grandfather (who was born in 19th century) is that when Ambedkar returned to India after his studies, he used to address the Maharaja of the state of Baroda, the legendary Sayajirao Gaekwad as Mr.Gaekwad

I am sure he did not mean disrespect, but sometimes to garner public support, you have to show respect to the culture and traditions. I am sure Maharaja Sayajirao deserved more respect as his patron

Another misfortune he had was that there was a HUGE intellectual and willpower barrier between him and the people he was trying to help. I am sure if he were alive, he would have definitely opposed the reservation crap...or atleast only supported it for a limited period of time
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Re: Why Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar rejected islam

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neo-buddhism was next biggest piece of shit which was introduced thanks to the brilliance of bhimrao.
why ................??

would you remain in the fold of hinduism if your ancestors had been humiliated by the upper castes for centuries ?

in earlier times brahmins would curse a dalit and go for a bath even if his shadow fell on him .

you would like the dalits to remain in the fold of hinduism for selfish purposes.......to keep the numbers of your faith intact ,but are not ready to give equal rights to them .

milan , you once wrote that you liked a girl ,but were shocked to hear later that she was a dalit......which means dalits are not fit to get married to ,right ?

why you only , most people around me talk of dalits in the most contemptous tones

why live in such religion ,if your people receive no respect in that religion ?
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why ................??

would you remain in the fold of hinduism if your ancestors had been humiliated by the upper castes for centuries ?

in earlier times brahmins would curse a dalit and go for a bath even if his shadow fell on him .

you would like the dalits to remain in the fold of hinduism for selfish purposes.......to keep the numbers of your faith intact ,but are not ready to give equal rights to them .

milan , you once wrote that you liked a girl ,but were shocked to hear later that she was a dalit......which means dalits are not fit to get married to ,right ?

why you only , most people around me talk of dalits in the most contemptous tones

why live in such religion ,if your people receive no respect in that religion ?
change your company or laugh at them, embarrass them. It works, believe me they would stop talking such shit in front of you.
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Re: Why Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar rejected islam

Ashdoc I am sick of these Dalit exploitation stories. They look like a big joke when Dalit Leaders are wearing 22.5 crore rupees garlands publically in modern India. When General category people are taking all pains to cater for Dalits and helping them to come up in all the possible way.

Who else do you think pays for schemes like NREGA or all Dalit empowerment schemes .

During Mughal and British period the Hindus who were close to the rulers made caste system more stringent to be closed to the rulers and appear of some superior class. Those Hindus form the Congress of today.

Historically Dalits when ever they were capable were given respect. Rishi Valmiki,Ved Vyas are ancient examples.

Chandragupta Maurya the first emperor of India was a Dalit who was groomed by a Brahmin Chankaya.

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Re: Why Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar rejected islam

Baba Sahab Ambedkar was a smart chap.

He understood that the premise that general category of Hinduism would never convert was a wrong one. Suppose if 22% of Dalits convert to Islam and then what if 20% General category also Converts to Islam and India becomes an islamic state.

In an Islamic state the Dalits of the State are given the luxary of Gas Chambers and Chemical Weapons and their heads are publically chopped off . In fact India as an Islamic State would best suit the General category people if they were really bad and casteist.

Pakistan is an example where the Hindu General category has converted to Islam and how Dalits are respected there,it is for every body to see..

Ambedkar was a smart chap and he chosed a religion where General category people also don't convert with him and remain Hindu, while he can negotiate with them.
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BTW Samuel RajaShekhara Reddy aka YSR the late CM of Andhra Pradesh has shown a great way for Generals.

A Christian Convert, he was a hardcore Reddy for the local news papers and poor rural Hindus but a hard Core Christain for Vatican,Missionaries and Sonia Gandhi .

Such a Genral category convert can fool every one. They can play caste politics while taking all the benefits for minorities.Probbaly Baba Saheb Ambedkar has the vision that if Genral Category resorts to such thing then the Dalits would be the biggest sufferers.

A Hindu India is more in the interest of OBCs and Dalits than the General category people.

Genral category people(the nationalist ones) have fought Mughals and Britishers to keep India a Hindu state and now the time is to take a chill pill and pass on the baton to the OBCs and Dalits.
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Ashdoc I am sick of these Dalit exploitation stories. They look like a big joke when Dalit Leaders are wearing 22.5 crore rupees garlands publically in modern India. When General category people are taking all pains to cater for Dalits and helping them to come up in all the possible way.

Who else do you think pays for schemes like NREGA or all Dalit empowerment schemes .

During Mughal and British period the Hindus who wre close to the rulers made caste system more stringent to be closed to the rulers and appear of some superior class. Those Hindus form the Congress of today.

Historically Dalits when ever they were capable were given respect. Rishi Valmiki,Ved Vyas are ancient examples.

Chandragupta Maurya the first emperor of India was a Dalit who was groomed by a Brahmin Chankaya.
I don't think Ashdoc is talking about 'Dalit exploitataion stories" but the general attitude of Upper caste hindus towards lower caste ones. And politicians are politicians after all, brahmin or dalit, most of them are corrupt.

It is much better with our generation... most of us don't give a damn what caste does the other person belong to. I can tell about north India esp UP, Bihar and MP, that many people are casteist to the core which is sickening. Not only do they look down upon people from lower but they look visibly happy to discover if you come from their caste.
Even lower castes are not devoid of this despicable attitude, they also think that they are well with their own caste people.

While you talk about Ved Vyas(half brahmin) and Valmiki, how would you explain Shambook or the guy who dried the river saraswati(kaliya or something). And when intellect and status becomes hereditary it is hard to know if someone from deprived background is 'capable' or even a prospect to become 'capable'.
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Baba Sahab Ambedkar was a smart chap.

He understood that the premise that general category of Hinduism would never convert was a wrong one. Suppose if 22% of Dalits convert to Islam and then what if 20% General category also Converts to Islam and India becomes an islamic state.

In an Islamic state the Dalits of the State are given the luxary of Gas Chambers and Chemical Weapons and their heads are publically chopped off . In fact India as an Islamic State would best suit the General category people if they were really bad and casteist.

Pakistan is an example where the Hindu General category has converted to Islam and how Dalits are respected there,it is for every body to see..

Ambedkar was a smart chap and he chosed a religion where General category people also don't convert with him and remain Hindu, while he can negotiate with them.
the simple explanation is that ambedkar realised what islam was all about.

doesnt take much brains to realise that anyway.

he didnt want his people to wallow in islamic backwardness.

i must credit you with a fertile imagination though
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Vadh or killing of Rishi Shambuk who was a Dalit by Rama was a shameful act.

In fact Rama screwed up big time after returning from Lanka. Ditching of Sita and killing of Rishi Shambuk were the most dirty deeds he did.

Thats why Uttarkand is the least popular chapters of Ramayana. Same way Krishna also messed up after Mahabharata War.

So it shows that even supposedly God's own incranations have their own period of falls like normal human beings.

But then that is what Hinduism is all about. First thing Hinduism teaches is that no body is absolute and perfect and everbody has shortcommings and collective leadership(Brahma,Vishnu,Mahesh) and multipolarity are its hallmarks.

It also teaches respect for Profession and thats why Vishwakarma who is an OBC God (He was a Luhar) is worshipped in every Mechanical Engineering workshop in India. Thats why Chitragupta is worshipped by Kayasths(Service Sector God ).

The most worshipped God of India i.e Hanuman or Bajrang Bali was himself a Scheduled Tribe or ST .

Hindus accept their gods with shortcommings,unlike other religions.

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Vadh or killing of Rishi Shambuk who was a Dalit by Rama was a shameful act.

Then you agree that Ram was not maryada purushottam...

In fact Rama screwed up big time after returning from Lanka. Ditching of Sita and killing of Rishi Shambuk were the most dirty deeds he did.

Thats why Uttarkand is the least popular chapters of Ramayana. Same way Krishna also messed up after Mahabharata War.

So it shows that even supposedly God's own incranations have their own period of falls like normal human beings.

But then that is what Hinduism is all about. First thing Hinduism teaches is that no body is absolute and perfect and everbody has shortcommings and collective leadership(Brahma,Vishnu,Mahesh) and multipolarity are its hallmarks.

It also teaches respect for Profession and thats why Vishwakarma who is an OBC God (He was a Luhar) is worshipped in every Mechanical Engineering workshop in India. Thats why Chitragupta is worshipped by Kayasths(Service Sector God ).

The most worshipped God of India i.e Hanuman or Bajrang Bali was himself a Scheduled Tribe or ST .
explain please. A god for father and a goddess incarnation for mother and himself being incarnation of Shiv... how come he becomes ST... unless you put monkeys into ST category or all southies into ST category or there is no difference between monkeys, STs and southies

Hindus accept their gods with shortcommings,unlike other religions.

It is not exclusive to hinduism....classic greek, roman, egyptian...all polytheistic gods are more humane than humans... highly immoral, jealous and corrupt while monotheistic gods(?) are stupid, megalomaniac and ruthless.
no more short...
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