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Old November 24th, 2013, 07:38 PM
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Big Brother is watching you

Narendra Modi as Big Brother in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four?


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Snooping row: fear of surveillance widespread in Guj

Mahesh Langa, Hindustan Times
Ahmedabad, November 18, 2013


The fear of surveillance by the state authorities in Gujarat is widespread. So widespread that no minister, MP, MLA, bureaucrat or police official speaks freely on his or her official mobile phone. Most of them have two or three mobiles, it is reliably learnt.

“The Gujarat Police, IB, Anti-Terrorist Squad and Ahmedabad Police Crime Branch are the main agencies involved in carrying out massive illegal surveillance on persons specified by the political bosses. They track movements, tap mobile phones, get locations and call detail records (CDRs) from the mobile phone service providers,” a top official said, adding that he himself prefers the BSNL landline phone at his residence when he wants to speak about confidential matters.

The extent of snooping is so pervasive that Gujarat’s director general of police Amitabh Pathak was shocked to learn in May that his own police officials had obtained call detail records of as many as 93,000 mobile phone numbers without his knowledge since December 2012.

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Does NaMo has drones too ?
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mofo Kangress spinning its web of lies so it can make some sort of comeback in Gujarat. They know that Keshubhai Patel is merging his party with the BJP.. very likely BJP may clean sweep the LS elections, so suddenly you see Gujarat Kangress appearing everywhere on TV.
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mofo Kangress spinning its web of lies so it can make some sort of comeback in Gujarat. They know that Keshubhai Patel is merging his party with the BJP.. very likely BJP may clean sweep the LS elections, so suddenly you see Gujarat Kangress appearing everywhere on TV.
Guj. govt. isn't denying that the snooping did take place. Actually I'd rather the matter be probed for probity. It was the public resources being used and there must be proper accountability.

If it was for keeping tabs on someone's girlfriend, then IMO suitable action should be be taken. Public resources can not be used like ancestral property by ANYONE in power.
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Suddenly all the congressi are awake.What next ? Asaram k tarah Modi k khilaaf jhoothe cases kharide hue logo ke thru ?
Desperation thy name is khote cases on the winning PM candidate
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Guj. govt. isn't denying that the snooping did take place. Actually I'd rather the matter be probed for probity. It was the public resources being used and there must be proper accountability.

If it was for keeping tabs on someone's girlfriend, then IMO suitable action should be be taken. Public resources can not be used like ancestral property by ANYONE in power.
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Guj. govt. isn't denying that the snooping did take place. Actually I'd rather the matter be probed for probity. It was the public resources being used and there must be proper accountability.

If it was for keeping tabs on someone's girlfriend, then IMO suitable action should be be taken. Public resources can not be used like ancestral property by ANYONE in power.
If we are to set these standards, policemen should stop using police cars for personal conveyance..

Let Kangress first probe Vadra's deals.. how about that for a start?

The fact remains that in Gujarat there have been no scams or riots in the last 10 years, so this will be blown out of proportion.

To me the girl and father issued a letter.. end of story.
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congress is trying very to throw every kind of shit and hoping something would stick...

From Snooping to Affair to Sex CD everything in one case...

It was actually on expected lines just one day after the Snooping row started, Modhwadia called Modi IshqZaade and it was a dead give away where congress wants to take this...
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If we are to set these standards, policemen should stop using police cars for personal conveyance..

Let Kangress first probe Vadra's deals.. how about that for a start?

Why do things always come to "let the other do this FIRST, then look at our sins, if any" ?? Sure, let Vadra deals be probed fully. Also, let this be probed. Probe all the misdeeds that need to be probed, don't prioritize.

The fact remains that in Gujarat there have been no scams or riots in the last 10 years, so this will be blown out of proportion.

To me the girl and father issued a letter.. end of story.
The whole government machinery put to work at the "oral" request of a friend of a powerful politician.. doesn't that sound like misuse ??
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congress is trying very to throw every kind of shit and hoping something would stick...

From Snooping to Affair to Sex CD everything in one case...

It was actually on expected lines just one day after the Snooping row started, Modhwadia called Modi IshqZaade and it was a dead give away where congress wants to take this...
That exactly why there needs to be an impartial probe and the findings revealed.

Of course, now they have constituted a 2 member panel and asked them to submit a report in 3 months' time.
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If a CM's security requires investigation then will he spend money from his pocket ?
You will find many congressi's who are not even elected representatives using govt machinery for their personal use,uska kya RRBhai ?
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The whole government machinery put to work at the "oral" request of a friend of a powerful politician.. doesn't that sound like misuse ??
That exactly why there needs to be an impartial probe and the findings revealed.

Of course, now they have constituted a 2 member panel and asked them to submit a report in 3 months' time.
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If a CM's security requires investigation then will he spend money from his pocket ?
You will find many congressi's who are not even elected representatives using govt machinery for their personal use,uska kya RRBhai ?
congressi hai bhai. It is their birth right...
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If a CM's security requires investigation then will he spend money from his pocket ?
You will find many congressi's who are not even elected representatives using govt machinery for their personal use,uska kya RRBhai ?
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congressi hai bhai. It is their birth right...
The answer is the same as posted in red above, and repeated below.
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Why do things always come to "let the other do this FIRST, then look at our sins, if any" ?? Sure, let Vadra deals be probed fully. Also, let this be probed. Probe all the misdeeds that need to be probed, don't prioritize.
Let all the misdeeds be probed. If we were to let the politicians, of whatever party, get away with "Pehle unko check karo", we will end up with more misdeeds going unprobed, unchecked and unpunished because the politicians will make up with each other "You let my sins go unprobed and I will forget yours".
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I am seriously thinking of moving to India and starting a private investigation agency.. The way this business is likely to pick up in India.

If AAP comes to power in Delhi next time, is baar to chance nahi, then we will be looking into which pandu took 5 rs from paan waala.. why some officer visited chhamiya at 8pm.. why ministers car was serviced twice in a quarter.. how Kalejiwaal managed to work in NCR only for 15 years without transfers.. all pertinent questions that MUST be probed.
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The answer is the same as posted in red above, and repeated below.
Let all the misdeeds be probed. If we were to let the politicians, of whatever party, get away with "Pehle unko check karo", we will end up with more misdeeds going unprobed, unchecked and unpunished because the politicians will make up with each other "You let my sins go unprobed and I will forget yours".
"Pahele unko check karo" is built into us indians since childhood. its "default Program"

see any two siblings, first argument would be "iss ne bhi to aisa kiya tha"

so, politicians are two quarrelling siblings who always try to find excuse of their misdeeds.
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I am seriously thinking of moving to India and starting a private investigation agency.. The way this business is likely to pick up in India.

If AAP comes to power in Delhi next time, is baar to chance nahi, then we will be looking into which pandu took 5 rs from paan waala.. why some officer visited chhamiya at 8pm.. why ministers car was serviced twice in a quarter.. how Kalejiwaal managed to work in NCR only for the 15 years without transfers.. all pertinent questions that MUST be probed.
AAP was just a big baloon. Congress made it fly and think them as they are really big. But when the real time came just one sting and AAP is seen clarifying everything since last 3-4 days..

Well played congress...
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Excerpts from conversations between Narendra Modi's man Amit Shah and IPS officer G.L. Singhal. The policemen are abusing their powers and stalking a woman:

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From conversation 9

Amit Shah: And the people with the placard....
G.L. Singhal: Yes sir, everything has been arranged.
Shah: No, no...I mean ask him in advance the hotel’s name.
Singhal: Yes, yes sir.
Shah: So in case she escapes, we can keep a vigil at the hotel.
Singhal: Right, right sir.


From conversation 17

Amit Shah: Where is **** now ?
G.L. Singhal: She is there only. She has not moved yet...yes, sir.
Shah: Who is there has to be searched.
Singhal: The thing is that she came here to meet someone and it is heard that there is something pertaining to an engagement and for that she came to meet that boy.


From conversation 17

Amit Shah: Are they talking in Gujarati?
G.L. Singhal: No, sir, in English.
Shah: And any talks with her family?
Singhal: She talked to her mother and she probably had some altercations with her sister. She told her mother...make her understand, I am going to meet that boy today or later, whatever it may be. I’ll let you know.
Shah: So her father and mother are not in the picture about her meeting with that boy?
Singhal: No sir, she talks very rudely with her mother.

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More here: ‘Don’t Worry, Sir. She Won’t Escape.’
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