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bajirao's descendant mohini karkarey hits out at bhansali in open letter---

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainmen...ansali-2146623
Bansali's movies are mostly controversial.
What next can we expect ?
The song goes out of the movie or a disclaimer ?

Hope the Thackereys don't come out.
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I cannot watch any movie with that Ranveer whatever-last-name fellow.

And Bhansali movies... after Hum Dil Chuke Sanam (with Ajay Devgun, Aishwarya Rai and Bhai) I have not found any good one.

I watched the last one in fast forward mode .. it had Deepika and this Ranveer whoever-last-name. Finished the entire movie in like 10 minutes.
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I watched the last one in fast forward mode .. it had Deepika and this Ranveer whoever-last-name. Finished the entire movie in like 10 minutes.
You are talking about Ramleela Rasleela something, I believe. I liked the movie. Especially the role of the fat lady... excellent
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Watched Bajirao Mastani today.

Worth a dekko on big screen. Bhansali's movies are usually full of drama which I detest. This one has it but in a nice way. Ranvir has done a good job as the Maratha warrior. Rather I would say, an excellent job. Deepkia excels as Mastani too. Priyanka has kindof played second fiddle but I like her more than Deepika in all departments. Perhaps a more detailed review sometime later.
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I cannot watch any movie with that Ranveer whatever-last-name fellow.

And Bhansali movies... after Hum Dil Chuke Sanam (with Ajay Devgun, Aishwarya Rai and Bhai) I have not found any good one.

I watched the last one in fast forward mode .. it had Deepika and this Ranveer whoever-last-name. Finished the entire movie in like 10 minutes.
i didnt like that 'Hum Salman ko De chuke sanam' too. THey could have made it a bit interesting when in the wedding night Ajay Devgan accepts Ash's offer, lays her and then says 'Lets reunite you with Salman'. It was showing on cable and i was seeing it in a sleep mode.

Caught a bit of Devdas whenver it was showing on TV. Guzarish was on Netflix (probably still is). i tried watching a bit of it and thought 'Good for insomnia.'
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Bajirao Mastani

Of all the Bhansali movies, HDDCS is perhaps the most popular. I found it average movie with lot of drama.

Adding hakla to bhansali's excessive drama results in a bad joke called Devdas, an utterly horrible movie.

Khamoshi (haven't watched), Black & Guzarish also had lot of drama but had their merits. I liked Guzarish & even Black in certain ways.

Music is however Bhansali's USP and even Devdas had good songs & dance numbers.

With that background, I did not have much expectation from Bajirao Mastani. May be lot of drama & good music.

However, its exceeded expectations & I learnt bit of history too. Drama is there but with substance (Drama without substance makes you laugh even in a tragic scene. Devdas is best example).

Ranvir as young Maratha warrior has excelled. Deepika as Mastani too. Priyanka as Kashibai, wife of Bajirao, too. Tanvi Azmi as Bajirao's mom too. And other Marathi characters have authentic touch (accent etc.). Aditya Pancholi, Milind Soman, Mahesh Manjrekar (as Chattrapati Shahu), Raza Murad (as nizam of Deccan) are apt.

The wars calls of Har Har Mahadev are great (No wonder the movie is banned in Pakistan).

A brave warrior Bajirao, torn apart by love for Mastani on one side and his family, kingdom & Maratha pride on the other, comes a cropper after scoring 100% strike rate in 41 battles he fought.

One song where Mastani sings & dances in Bajirao's darbar is excellently done.

The movie also shows secularism of Hindus. Mastani is a Muslim daughter from a polygamous Hindu king's Muslim wife. She continues to be one & her son is called Shamsher Bahadur. Goes to show that even notoriously stauch Hindus like Marathas were 'secular' enough & have no comparison whatsoever with peaceful kings or their ways.

Worth a watch on big screen
(I don't think it can be liked on small screen)
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Saw this movie.

Since it was Sanjay Leela Bhansali's movie,
I expected a large and grand setting. It was.
I expected a love story, history be damned. It was.
I expected a lot of songs. There were.
I expected over the top love and emotions. There were.
I expected to hate Ranveer Singh or whatever his name. I did.
I expected Priyank to be gorgeous. She was.
I expected Deepika to be stunning. She was.
I expected the music to be like Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. It was.

I wanted some popcorn for my brain. It was a big serving.

Overall, timepass.

All the historians can turn and twist, because they forgot that its Bhansali. Even Jodha Akbar was some mythical romance love story. Then too these historians had gone in a tizzy.

They should lighten up. Bollywood owes allegiance to the box office. For that they can even show the British singing and dancing and nice in a film 'inspired by history'.

So just forget all the history business and watch it like some Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings type fantasy drama.
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Saw this movie.

Since it was Sanjay Leela Bhansali's movie,
I expected a large and grand setting. It was.
I expected a love story, history be damned. It was.
I expected a lot of songs. There were.
I expected over the top love and emotions. There were.
I expected to hate Ranveer Singh or whatever his name. I did.
I expected Priyank to be gorgeous. She was.
I expected Deepika to be stunning. She was.
I expected the music to be like Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. It was.

I wanted some popcorn for my brain. It was a big serving.

Overall, timepass.

All the historians can turn and twist, because they forgot that its Bhansali. Even Jodha Akbar was some mythical romance love story. Then too these historians had gone in a tizzy.

They should lighten up. Bollywood owes allegiance to the box office. For that they can even show the British singing and dancing and nice in a film 'inspired by history'.

So just forget all the history business and watch it like some Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings type fantasy drama.
Two movies back to back
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'Bajirao Mastani' is the love story of Bajirao the warrior peshwa ( prime minister ) of the maratha empire with mastani who was the princess of Bundelkhand---muslim daughter of the hindu rajput king's muslim wife . But Bajirao was already married to Kashibai and Mastani became his second wife .

So who was Bajirao ?? To those who haven't seen the film and don't know the history , he was the prime minister of Chhatrapati Shahu the grandson of Chhatrapati Shivaji . His time saw power slipping into the hands of the peshwa as Shahu was not an active ruler and let Bajirao handle most of his campaigns . Bajirao led the tide of maratha conquest into north India until his forces began to knock on the gates of Mughal capital Delhi by attacking it's suburbs . Bajirao was a brahmin by caste .

Now there have been some objections raised against the film---that the peshwa's first wife has been shown dancing like a dancing girl in the film , and that the great peshwa who was a mighty warrior who won 41 battles without losing any of them has been reduced to just ' lover of Mastani ' . My answer to those objections is---
Even though the peshwa is shown in the film as mainly 'lover of Mastani' he was anyway largely unknown outside Maharashtra . The film at least gives publicity to his name all over India and lets north Indian people know that maratha armies once invaded north India to liberate them from Mughal rule . Yes , it is not right to show a royal lady like the peshwa's wife dancing like a dancing girl , but director Bhansali has to sell his film isn't it . Now even though Bajirao has been a subject of marathi films and plays and TV serials , all of them have been made at a fraction of the budget of this film . Since Bhansali has made such a grand film on a huge budget giving good publicity to Bajirao's name all over India , what is wrong in giving cinematic liberty to him to show a few songs and dances to help his film recover the money spent ?? Nothing is wrong in that .

The thing that strikes you about this film is the absolute grandeur of the settings and beauty of the photography and the lavish scale on which everything has been picturised . The costumes of the maratha warriors are splendid , the rhythm in which they dance is perfect and there is an orgy of colour everywhere . The women look good , the men are smartly dressed , their horses gallop with speed and the saffron flags they fly billow in the wind magnificently . The mansions and the palaces and the forts in which the scenes are set look superb . Every scene looks like a work of art---the earthen oil lamps in the vast rooms , the chandeliers , the jewellery and the saris of the women , the flowing robes of the royal men...all has been painstakingly picturised . The battle scenes are less spectacular but good enough . The forts of kumbhalgarh and amber in rajasthan and the fort of maheshwar in madhya pradesh has been used for filming some of the scenes .

The first half moves with pace , and it is Mastani ( Deepika Padukone ) who initiates everything---war , peace , love , travel from bundelkhand to Pune , marriage , confrontation with the peshwa's family , and sacrifice for love . Ranveer Singh looks every inch a peshwa ( thank god the Salman Aishwarya affair broke down and Sallu didn't make it as peshwa as earlier planned ) and has made every effort to look like Bajirao himself---the style of walking and talking , the manliness , and above all the arrogance . He fights his enemies with fervour and dances with gusto . His words are sharp and his sword is always gleaming---except when it is reddened by the opponent's blood . Priyanka Chopra acts as Kashibai and her acting is even better than Deepika and perfectly shows the pain of a wife who has to contend with her husband's philandering---but even in her pain she never loses her dignity . The obnoxious Pune brahimins who are always outraged over something ( they are outraged over the film ) are in full form---refusing to accept Mastani because she belongs to a different religion and refusing to give her son a hindu name . Tanvi Azmi has really cut her hair and become bald to play her role as Bajirao's formidable widowed mother---widows were balded in those times to make them unattractive to other men .

In the second half the film becomes tragic and the beauty of the scenes lose some of their sheen . Bajirao seems to fall in love like a warrior rather than lover---with a sense of duty towards his beloved who has come from far to get him and crossed boundaries of religion to meet him . Music cannot be called the strong point of the film . The songs don't impress . But the film does , and should be watched on the large screen to be really enjoyed for it's cinematography .

Verdict---Good .
Three and a half stars .
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Ashdoc's movie review---

'Bajirao Mastani' is the love story of Bajirao the warrior peshwa ( prime minister ) of the maratha empire with mastani who was the princess of Bundelkhand---muslim daughter of the hindu rajput king's muslim wife . But Bajirao was already married to Kashibai and Mastani became his second wife .

So who was Bajirao ?? To those who haven't seen the film and don't know the history , he was the prime minister of Chhatrapati Shahu the grandson of Chhatrapati Shivaji . His time saw power slipping into the hands of the peshwa as Shahu was not an active ruler and let Bajirao handle most of his campaigns . Bajirao led the tide of maratha conquest into north India until his forces began to knock on the gates of Mughal capital Delhi by attacking it's suburbs . Bajirao was a brahmin by caste .

Now there have been some objections raised against the film---that the peshwa's first wife has been shown dancing like a dancing girl in the film , and that the great peshwa who was a mighty warrior who won 41 battles without losing any of them has been reduced to just ' lover of Mastani ' . My answer to those objections is---
Even though the peshwa is shown in the film as mainly 'lover of Mastani' he was anyway largely unknown outside Maharashtra . The film at least gives publicity to his name all over India and lets north Indian people know that maratha armies once invaded north India to liberate them from Mughal rule . Yes , it is not right to show a royal lady like the peshwa's wife dancing like a dancing girl , but director Bhansali has to sell his film isn't it . Now even though Bajirao has been a subject of marathi films and plays and TV serials , all of them have been made at a fraction of the budget of this film . Since Bhansali has made such a grand film on a huge budget giving good publicity to Bajirao's name all over India , what is wrong in giving cinematic liberty to him to show a few songs and dances to help his film recover the money spent ?? Nothing is wrong in that .

The thing that strikes you about this film is the absolute grandeur of the settings and beauty of the photography and the lavish scale on which everything has been picturised . The costumes of the maratha warriors are splendid , the rhythm in which they dance is perfect and there is an orgy of colour everywhere . The women look good , the men are smartly dressed , their horses gallop with speed and the saffron flags they fly billow in the wind magnificently . The mansions and the palaces and the forts in which the scenes are set look superb . Every scene looks like a work of art---the earthen oil lamps in the vast rooms , the chandeliers , the jewellery and the saris of the women , the flowing robes of the royal men...all has been painstakingly picturised . The battle scenes are less spectacular but good enough . The forts of kumbhalgarh and amber in rajasthan and the fort of maheshwar in madhya pradesh has been used for filming some of the scenes .

The first half moves with pace , and it is Mastani ( Deepika Padukone ) who initiates everything---war , peace , love , travel from bundelkhand to Pune , marriage , confrontation with the peshwa's family , and sacrifice for love . Ranveer Singh looks every inch a peshwa ( thank god the Salman Aishwarya affair broke down and Sallu didn't make it as peshwa as earlier planned ) and has made every effort to look like Bajirao himself---the style of walking and talking , the manliness , and above all the arrogance . He fights his enemies with fervour and dances with gusto . His words are sharp and his sword is always gleaming---except when it is reddened by the opponent's blood . Priyanka Chopra acts as Kashibai and her acting is even better than Deepika and perfectly shows the pain of a wife who has to contend with her husband's philandering---but even in her pain she never loses her dignity . The obnoxious Pune brahimins who are always outraged over something ( they are outraged over the film ) are in full form---refusing to accept Mastani because she belongs to a different religion and refusing to give her son a hindu name . Tanvi Azmi has really cut her hair and become bald to play her role as Bajirao's formidable widowed mother---widows were balded in those times to make them unattractive to other men .

In the second half the film becomes tragic and the beauty of the scenes lose some of their sheen . Bajirao seems to fall in love like a warrior rather than lover---with a sense of duty towards his beloved who has come from far to get him and crossed boundaries of religion to meet him . Music cannot be called the strong point of the film . The songs don't impress . But the film does , and should be watched on the large screen to be really enjoyed for it's cinematography .

Verdict---Good .
Three and a half stars .
Watched the movie and agree with your review
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Priyanka Chopra acts as Kashibai and her acting is even better than Deepika and perfectly shows the pain of a wife who has to contend with her husband's philandering---but even in her pain she never loses her dignity .
Like Hillary Clinton?. Now that PC is on American TV, she could star in Hollywood too as Hillary Clinton.
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Ranvir Singh has really done a great job as Bajirao. He came across as a native Marathi guy. I dont know if he made it up or was it natural.
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the great secularist aakar patel is unhappy that bajirao defeated mughals and howls and barks against him

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes...in-the-movies/
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This bekar patel .. Tries too hard to show himself as reasonable and realist. But finally comes up with crap.
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bengalis are using the occasion of release of movie to revive bitter memories of maratha invasion of bengal and the atrocities the marathas wrought---

http://scroll.in/article/776978/forg...ions-of-bengal

my answer to the bengalis---

Those invasions were by raghuji bhosale of Nagpur who was enemy of bajirao in the maratha court . But it was those invasions which rocked the foundations of the nawab's islamic rule in west bengal . Interestingly only that region of Bengal that was attacked by marathas is with India today . Rest is Bangladesh.
Later the son of bajirao ( peshwa nanasaheb ) defeated the bhosales and stopped maratha invasions of Bengal. But if raghuji bhosale had conquered Bengal then whole of Bengal would have been with India today.
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