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Old November 3rd, 2004, 11:07 AM
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Question Why did Democrats loose the White House?

I was watching the polls late into the night and then early morning.

Many issues were in the limelight. These are my feelings as to why President Bush was re-elected.
  • Same sex marriage proposals received a resounding defeat in 10 states. Americans showed that they still respect and follow core family value. The gay community really riled up the feelings of people at the wrong time. Even moderates and liberal leaning folks voted in huge numbers against a gay agenda.
  • Demonising of President Bush non stop and comparing him to Hitler by the leftist media worked against Democrats.
  • Writing absolutely gutter columns like "Where is John HInckley and Lee Harvey Oswald when we need them" were one more nail in the coffin for Democrats and crazed Liberals.
  • Hollywood idiots still did not get it that their agendas work only in Liberal states like California.
  • Michael Moore was a big contributor to success of President Bush. He turned the 9/11 horror into a Democratic ad campaign and this was seen by many moderates and independents as absolutely sick.
  • Kerry campaign spent too much time talking about how great Kerry was in Vietnam. Beyond a point even Democrats must have had enough of it.
  • Kerry kept on harping about healthcare and how he would give it away free. People understand that there is no free lunch. People know how socialised medicine in Canada does not work.
  • The whole Democrat campaign was focused on 'hate Bush' instead of 'what is the difference between Kerry and Bush'
  • Young voters who were supposed to be Kerry voters only attended the free Bruce Springsteen concerts but did not vote. The statistics say that only 1 out 10 young folks voted.
  • Tax cuts by Bush were more popular than Kerry's 'I will tax the rich and protect the poor'. This is USA - home of capitalism. This socialist hogwash did not fool people. Many blue collar workers have also voted for Bush.

The reasons are many and the media will tell you some more.

I hope the echarchans will atleast try to accept that Kerry lost and put out what they feel about the loss or why Kerry lost and rise above the usual 'Hate Bush' attitude.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 11:30 AM
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Now since Bush has won .. THe next question would be on what basis America is gonna unite under .. THis election has divided America into 2 equal parts and if this nation has to survive there shld be something that would bring Ameica together

That should be the next big agenda for Bush ..

A crazy thought..

Can Bush effectively bring educational reform which can actually give a competitive edge to American students wrt Indians and Chinese ..
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Now since Bush has won .. THe next question would be on what basis America is gonna unite under .. THis election has divided America into 2 equal parts and if this nation has to survive there shld be something that would bring Ameica together

That should be the next big agenda for Bush ..

A crazy thought..

Can Bush effectively bring educational reform which can actually give a competitive edge to American students wrt Indians and Chinese ..
After seeing last nights results, I dont think America was divided right down the middle as the Left tried to portray, otherwise Bush would not have received 3 and half million popular votes more than Kerry.

Yes, there was more bitterness this time.

Kerry should have stopped bragging about his Vietnam records early on.

Bush now needs to first handle the Iraq mess. He now has a majority support in both the Senate and Congress. So he can now stop worrying about being 'politically correct' in Iraq. He needs to now intensify the war and get it over with.

Also he needs to make good on his campaign promise to enact a Constitutional amendment to ban same sex marriage.

About education - the problem is not something that Bush or Kerry can resolve. Out here, the school system is way too liberal and focussed on 'child psychology' than in India. In India, all of us have been subject to the teachers wooden ruler or have been hit by a duster. Out here, there are way too many choices and artificially created conditions like ADD and Ritalin.
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Laden baba is another reason ...............
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Laden baba is another reason ...............
I agree that you dont like Bush, but do you honestly think that the majority of Americans really only voted for Bush on basis of Bin Laden? Have you seen the many propositions and ballot measures which were defeated in many states? Were they not about values which Bush has been following and propagating?

Budmass, do think what the Democrats or those who hate Bush need to do for the next elections.
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Some more reasons

Last night, MSNBC reported that 21 percent of Americans said 'moral issues' were the biggest factor in their decision more than those who said the economy or the war on terror. How come we never saw this discussed in any polls before Election Day?
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Same sex marraige is banned for sure ....
Though i guess there were 25 % who supported civil unions..

Bush shld stop listening to Rummy with regards to Iraq .. The election is over . Now there would be no qualms abt invading the Sunni traingle.. and ofcourse increase the number of troops .. atleast double the current size.

Whats the projection for the economy ..
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Last night, MSNBC reported that 21 percent of Americans said 'moral issues' were the biggest factor in their decision more than those who said the economy or the war on terror. How come we never saw this discussed in any polls before Election Day?
Moral Issues?? ..ye kya hain ?
And how they came in, all of a sudden ?

the way fight is going on in Iraq, looks like it will continue for another couple of years.capturing saddam is not winning over iraq. Will see how long this bandar bush will continue his "war on terror" in IRAQ !
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Same sex marraige is banned for sure ....
Though i guess there were 25 % who supported civil unions..
Personally I am opposed to same sex marriage but do not mind some sort of tax advantages for same sex couples. I think 75% opposing same-sex marriage, despite the Left hammering the gay agenda speaks for the core values of America. Some Hollywood and San Francisco style blabbering about the gay agenda does not mean the majority likes it.

Bush shld stop listening to Rummy with regards to Iraq .. The election is over . Now there would be no qualms abt invading the Sunni traingle.. and ofcourse increase the number of troops .. atleast double the current size.
The towelheads in Iraq, especially Zarqawi group, should now be really scared. I hope Bush just flattens out Fallujah and Najaf and other trouble spots.

Whats the projection for the economy ..
Did you see the stock market today? Wall Street knows that socialist agendas of Kerry would have hampered the economy.
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One thing abt the stock market is worth noting ...

The market is seeing positive growth ..

That may come as a surprise to CNN's Lou Dobbs, who has been harrumphing for the past year about U.S. tech jobs being "shipped abroad," and it's certainly bad news for the John Kerry campaign, who tried to exploit outsourcing fears.
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Moral Issues?? ..ye kya hain ?
And how they came in, all of a sudden ?

the way fight is going on in Iraq, looks like it will continue for another couple of years.capturing saddam is not winning over iraq. Will see how long this bandar bush will continue his "war on terror" in IRAQ !
Call him what you may, but Americans trust Bush more about war in IRaq. Bush is seen as someone who will finish off the mess in Iraq. They also realise that sinc eit was election year, Bush did not take tough steps till now. Already Fallujah is being surrounded. I wont be surprised if JDAMS and Daisy Cutters start falling into Fallujah.
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Why did Democrats loose the White House?

Despite Kerry's saying that he would never wage war without a plan to win the peace, Kerry did not come up with a persuasive explanation of how he would be able to win peace in Iraq himself.

“I know what we have to do in Iraq,” Kerry claimed in his speech to the Democratic National Convention last summer. “We need a president who has the credibility to bring our allies to our side and share the burden, reduce the cost to American taxpayers, and reduce the risk to American soldiers.”



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let's look on the bright side. at least we'll have four more year of bushisms to look forward to
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It only proves that there are more dumb people then we thought. Just think Bush caused so much harm to the world when his re-election was at stake.. think what he will do for the next 4 years where he has nothing to lose.
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I agree that you dont like Bush, but do you honestly think that the majority of Americans really only voted for Bush on basis of Bin Laden? Have you seen the many propositions and ballot measures which were defeated in many states? Were they not about values which Bush has been following and propagating?

Budmass, do think what the Democrats or those who hate Bush need to do for the next elections.

mai gareeb aadmi hoo .............. mujhe quote na karo aap ........... Bush baba jeet gayee .. Laden baba ne maraa li bas ......... mai itna deep mey politics mey nahe ja pataa .... Shot circuit ho mentally .kabhi -kabhi toh theek se soch pataa hoo ki mai kaun hoo ...
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