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Old October 15th, 2017, 01:40 PM
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It's not about money . What if the train derails causing a major accident at high speed? Already so many trains are derailing. Indian railways work culture is inefficient and has become more so nowadays. The Modi sarkar should improve that rather than concentrate on bullet train.
Existing Indian rail runs on century old infrastructure. Proposed bullet train will run on decades old but highly reliable Japanese technology.

Don’t blame the persons. Just like understaffed pandus actually keep the law and order going, the railway staff keeps the mammoth system safe. For every accident, there are at least a lakh safe trips. If you got the Netflix access from Jagguji, there is a British documentary on Mumbai locals, which also covers a bit of mainline rail, that talks about the safety procedures.
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Old October 15th, 2017, 06:21 PM
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I completely agree that one must advance with the technology and improve with science,.. BUT, smtimes it seems like but we are not ready to deserve for that… we need all luxuries with our lazy style of leisure, and king-style lazy-idle mentality,….….. Just like, car is a symbol of status and 95 percent who drives the car ( via driver ) uselessly for a smaller crowded distances, when they also know that by bike or other way they can be lot cheaper and lot more ahead,…( In US, car is an absolute necessity ) so is with the mis-use of the cell phone,…. And so will be with the Bullet train,..

No professional staff with urgent meeting needs doctors needed for immediate surgery and such professional strata will be found using it, but more will be,.. lukhkhas – Lafhanghaas,… from AHD to Mumbai for a quick access of bar, beers and Bazaars ( Mandi ),.. and in India money can be earned easily with many sidekicks,… so ticket price is not a matter !

For example, social medias – FB , WA… the most faaltu use, we Indians ( Asians ) are found doing everywhere,… you will see not that many WA groups or twitter pages by foreigners doing that much faatlu-giri,…. If you ask at yr job,… hardly 1 American will be found doing such time-pass faltu-giri, out of 100 and so with our forums and chats on internet,…. We are ahead in watching porn and any faaltu-giri, a way more than any others,,,,..

Hope, Japanese tech, have all electronic measurements and control, like if two trains are coming on a single track, computer will automatically stop them,.. etc….. OR our Indian staff of illiterate, Half-roti pay-scale hired will create again the disasters, like they always do,.. ! God save from ours Indo mentality ! We need all new technology, but dunno wanna deserve,.. as a civic citizen.
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Old October 15th, 2017, 06:54 PM
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That is exactly the excuse most bureaucrats from License permit Raj used. 'Indians are not ready for this'. in 92, the commies were also saying 'Who needs mobile phones'. In a market economies, whoever is ready for what is decided by market forces.

I know you don't read books (which shows in the lekhan shaili), but there is a critique of this mentality in Gurcharan Das' 'India Unbound'. One of the Finance Ministers (mostly Pranab da), refused a license to Gurcharan Das to make perfumes saying that women dont need them.

Now, the thing non market here is even if it is after 50 years, the money for this is going to be shelled by the government (i.e. Public) and not a private company. All the high speed rails are built or funded by the governments (Japan/France/Germany/China). Now, again, there are ways this could be made viable like the Ahmedabad to Delhi extension might pass through some new towns and real estate development might recover money. And the amount is comparable to what was sunk in MNREGA, etc.

And obviously, you havent been following 'India story' or you think every one is like what was in your government department in 80s. Before complaining about Indian mentality, try to 'Undesify' yourself, by actually paying for the movies you watch and review.
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https://m.timesofindia.com/city/ahme...w/63538076.cms

70 trips per day !! Will make Mumbai a satellite city of Gujarat only. Inspite of this many marathi mumbaikars are supporting BJP and Modi . Digging their own grave I guess .
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70 trips per day !! Will make Mumbai a satellite city of Gujarat only. Inspite of this many marathi mumbaikars are supporting BJP and Modi . Digging their own grave I guess .
OTOH, I think it only emphasizes the commercial value of Mumbai. It means that they expect a lot of commute between Mumbai and Gujarat. The companies will continue to have their head offices in Mumbai while the other work gets done elsewhere. It means that they will pay their taxes in Mumbai.
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70 trips per day !! Will make Mumbai a satellite city of Gujarat only. Inspite of this many marathi mumbaikars are supporting BJP and Modi . Digging their own grave I guess .
Are you saying despite Bal T’s efforts, Mumbai remains in the hands of gujjus and other outsiders still? This must be huge motivation for Sena and Raj T.
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Are you saying despite Bal T’s efforts, Mumbai remains in the hands of gujjus and other outsiders still? This must be huge motivation for Sena and Raj T.
I am not saying that Mumbai is in hands of gujjus and outsiders. But bullet train could change equation in favour of gujjus.
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100 years Back, competition was between Calcutta and Bombay.
After all the Left rule Calcutta fell on the wayside.
I was surprised to see Kolkatta still at number 3 here. It is half of Delhi or Mumbai though.
Delhi was nowhere in the scene in last century, but it is now close to catching up with Mumbai.
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Farmers in both Gujarat and Maharashtra oppose bullet train , which will run on land confiscated from them---

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/m.eco...w/65858447.cms

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.n...akamai-rum=off
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Thats a problem with any Project.
Narmada Project was highlihted as dispacing 1.5 million people as per this site
http://umich.edu/~snre492/Jones/narmada.html
I heard only 100,000 or so when the project was on.
Same is the number in 3 Gorges project. While all the rights bodies keep crying China shows them the middle finger.
https://www.internationalrivers.org/...ree-gorges-dam
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One friend explained to me the purpose of bullet train . The bullet train will act as local train bringing gujjus from vapi Valsad Surat Bharuch etc from where Mumbai will be hardly one to one and half hour by bullet train . Remember these people will not have to buy property to settle in Mumbai . They will come by bullet train in morning and go back by bullet train in evening . Just like people coming from Karjat Kasara by local train .

70 such rides per day are planned by bullet train---35 from Gujarat to Mumbai and 35 back .

This will affect the white collar jobs held by other communities in Mumbai as many of them will be grabbed by Gujaratis .
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One friend explained to me the purpose of bullet train . The bullet train will act as local train bringing gujjus from vapi Valsad Surat Bharuch etc from where Mumbai will be hardly one to one and half hour by bullet train . Remember these people will not have to buy property to settle in Mumbai . They will come by bullet train in morning and go back by bullet train in evening . Just like people coming from Karjat Kasara by local train .

70 such rides per day are planned by bullet train---35 from Gujarat to Mumbai and 35 back .

This will affect the white collar jobs held by other communities in Mumbai as many of them will be grabbed by Gujaratis .
So you mean Mumbai locals are good for nothing? I want to remind you the movie scene in Ankush movie .. Nana Patekar says outsiders will come and take jobs in Mumbai (jahan gudd (jaggery) hoyegi udhar makhkhi aayengi) , what’s stopping Marathi manoos to take those jobs?
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This might just be a trial run. Next they might start a maglev train which will run from Jaunpur to Mumbai in 3 hours
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one more hyperambitious project waiting for modi sarkar to lap it up

https://www.khaleejtimes.com/news/tr...e-and-mumbai--
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One friend explained to me the purpose of bullet train . The bullet train will act as local train bringing gujjus from vapi Valsad Surat Bharuch etc from where Mumbai will be hardly one to one and half hour by bullet train . Remember these people will not have to buy property to settle in Mumbai . They will come by bullet train in morning and go back by bullet train in evening . Just like people coming from Karjat Kasara by local train .

70 such rides per day are planned by bullet train---35 from Gujarat to Mumbai and 35 back .

This will affect the white collar jobs held by other communities in Mumbai as many of them will be grabbed by Gujaratis .
Now the goal of maratha warrior should be to secure 100% reservation in all jobs and real estate in Mumbai. only that will solve your problem
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