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Old August 8th, 2018, 11:41 AM
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Food in multiplexes: Bombay HC gives Maharashtra govt 14 days to reply

This is about the prices that multiplexes charge for the food and beverages they sell in the their concession stands to the patrons. The public interest litigation says that multiplexes cannot charge such exorbitant prices for the food. Earlier Maharashtra government said that people can carry their own food and drink in the multiplexes, but now they have had an about turn.


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The case is a result of a public interest litigation filed by a Mumbai resident Jainendra Baxi in January

The Bombay High Court has granted the government two weeks time to present their case on the issue of food prices at multiplexes and the suggestion to allow outside food inside multiplexes in Maharashtra. The case is a result of a public interest litigation filed by a Mumbai resident Jainendra Baxi in January, claiming there is no law that forbids patrons from carrying outside food into multiplexes. The government was asked to take a stand on the matter, and formulate a policy. The issue was also brought up in the state assembly on July 13, where the junior minister for food and civic supplies said that there is no law that disallows outside food inside multiplexes, in response to a query by a member of the opposition.

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Outside food at multiplexes: Confusion prevails

MIRROR TEST DRIVE: Multiplexes across the city hide behind the ‘lack of clarity’ excuse to defy the govt order that allows moviegoers to carry food from outside. Of the five big multiplexes, only two allowed Mirror reporters to bring food from outside.

Almost a month after the state government clarified that beginning August 1, moviegoers were free to carry food to multiplexes and there should be no difference in the MRP of food items sold outside and inside multiplexes, there is still no clarity, resulting in each multiplex in the city framing its own rules on the matter.

This was revealed during a test drive conducted by this newspaper over the past two days, during which three of the city’s biggest multiplexes did not allow Mirror reporters to carry food to the cinema halls.

This, after Ravindra Chavan, minister of state for food and civil supplies, told the legislative assembly during the recently concluded monsoon session that the multiplex owners have been instructed to allow outside food on their premises. The minister further said the multiplexes have also been instructed to not charge exorbitant amount of money for food items.

Chavan’s statement came in the wake of the Bombay High Court pulling up the state government and the multiplexes based on a public interest litigation that people were forced to pay for food items as per the rates fixed by the multiplexes. Several multiplexes in Mumbai charge around Rs 300 for a bucket of popcorns, nearly Rs 100 for a cup of tea, and around Rs 200 for two pieces of sandwich when the same items are available for less than half the rate outside.

The Mirror test drive that covered Sterling Cineplex at Fort, Metro Inox Cinemas at Marine Lines, Regal Cinema at Colaba, PVR Odeon at Ghatkopar, and Carnival Cinemas revealed the patrons continued to be at the mercy of the multiplex owners.

At Sterling, our reporters were told to tuck in the chips and biscuits inside lunchboxes as the multiplex only allowed “ghar ka khaana” inside. At Metro, we were told that the food we had bought cannot be carried inside the theatre; we were given a choice of consuming it within the confines of the lobby. At PVR Odeon, the manager offered to keep our food in the refrigerator and “warm it for free” once the show got over.
At Carnival Cinemas, there was a board at the entrance saying outside food will not be allowed but there was no problem. The guards checking our bags stuffed with a cheeseburger and fries didn’t even bat an eyelid.

They told us outside food has been allowed at the multiplex for the past three days; it helped that the employees’ union at this multiplex is affiliated to the Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS), which is at the forefront of the fight against multiplexes overcharging the patrons.

Similarly, there was no problem at Regal, where our reporter was told that the security has been instructed to allow patrons to bring food from outside.
Lekhraj Kundhaliya, the food and beverages manager at Sterling Cineplex, told this newspaper that they started allowing “homemade food” since July 15. “Even when people have brought outside food packed in lunchboxes, we have allowed (them inside). There’s a lot of confusion regarding the matter so every multiplex’s management is free to interpret the government instructions as per its convenience,” Kundhaliya said.

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The MNS said it will soon conduct its own test drive and “teach a lesson” to those multiplexes that are refusing to fall in line. “The food and civil supplies minister has said there is no need for a special Government Resolution in this matter. Many multiplexes are still not allowing moviegoers to bring food from outside and continue to charge exorbitant prices for food items sold inside. We will conduct a check and take action MNS-style,” senior MNS leader Sandip Deshpande said.


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What kind of chutiyatic issues come up in India.

Multiplex is a private establishment. If the company want to make money from food, then they should be allowed to. As a consumer, if you don't like it, then don't give them your business. You don't HAVE to eat at the multiplex. Eat before the movie... eat after the movie. But why the fuck do you have to bring you ghar ka popcorn to the movie and expect the multiplex people to clean up your mess!!
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What kind of chutiyatic issues come up in India.

Multiplex is a private establishment. If the company want to make money from food, then they should be allowed to. As a consumer, if you don't like it, then don't give them your business. You don't HAVE to eat at the multiplex. Eat before the movie... eat after the movie. But why the fuck do you have to bring you ghar ka popcorn to the movie and expect the multiplex people to clean up your mess!!
This is how Socialism works! Everyone expects hand outs, sops, subsidies. In India the mindset is very socialist/communist even today.

If the multiplexes are forced to change their prices, it will be bad sign for business. The MNS representative was saying (on desi channel) that a couple of samosas cost at most Rs 12 from a good source. Why are multiplexes selling it for Rs 80? Well, you can choose to not eat it.

Tomorrow, someone will file a public interest litigation against 5 star restaurants and demand that prices be controlled. It can happen against simpler resstaurants in Mumbai like Udipi restaurants. On the road side idlis cost Rs 10 but in Udipi places they cost 25.

So, the mindset is very very socialist and communist. People want everything at prices they can afford. But will not be willing to select a cheaper source.

A close friend is in the multiplex business. He was telling me that despite the notions that multiplexes make lots of profits from showing movies, the reality is that the cost that multiplexes have to pay for showing hit movies is quite a lot and the margin is not as lucrative as one might think. There is profit but not what you think it is. Concession stands is where they make up the money and profits and these cover the wages for the staff and the maintenance costs.

Not to defend him, but yes, private business is something which the government or the courts have no right to meddle in.

Its like our own echarcha server. I was paying a lot of money per month but it got me a dedicated server, and lots of good infrastructure. Now I pay less and so I get fewer goodies. Should I be complaining that I want a dedicated server at lower prices? I mean, there is market competition and I have the freedom to host with our current ISP or move elsewhere, but I cannot bitch about why they are charging me what they are.
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What kind of chutiyatic issues come up in India.

Multiplex is a private establishment. If the company want to make money from food, then they should be allowed to. As a consumer, if you don't like it, then don't give them your business. You don't HAVE to eat at the multiplex. Eat before the movie... eat after the movie. But why the fuck do you have to bring you ghar ka popcorn to the movie and expect the multiplex people to clean up your mess!!
Why do I say we have a socialist mindset and that too conveniently socialist?

Let me give you a real example. A few short years ago, there was a Marathi movie called 'Sairat'. It was recently remade in Hindi as 'Dhadkan'.

Now Sairat was made by an unknown director and the actors were first time actors. The movie was a super duper hit, to the scale of a big Bollywood hit, crossing 300 crores!

Mumbai has very few screens showing Marathi films. The movie was mainly a big hit in the tier 2 and 3 cities and towns and the rural areas. Many people saw the movie 2 or 3 times. The movie was good. It was a different topic and the music was good and the story felt real.

Anyway, the point here is that the same farmers and villagers who claim inability to pay off loans and commit suicide, are the very same people who paid to watch this movie. They had money to watch a movie not once but multiple times. But no money to pay off the loans. They expect the government to waive off the loans, and the government has done that for sake of elections.

So do you see, how people are conveniently socialist? They want freebies as we are supposed to be a compassionate nation with socialist policies for the greater good of the poor. But when it comes to personal enjoyment, then people don't care about their responsibilities.

And yes, forgot to mention - farmers do not pay taxes at all!! They are not required to, by law
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Why do I say we have a socialist mindset and that too conveniently socialist?

Let me give you a real example. A few short years ago, there was a Marathi movie called 'Sairat'. It was recently remade in Hindi as 'Dhadkan'.

Now Sairat was made by an unknown director and the actors were first time actors. The movie was a super duper hit, to the scale of a big Bollywood hit, crossing 300 crores!

Mumbai has very few screens showing Marathi films. The movie was mainly a big hit in the tier 2 and 3 cities and towns and the rural areas. Many people saw the movie 2 or 3 times. The movie was good. It was a different topic and the music was good and the story felt real.

Anyway, the point here is that the same farmers and villagers who claim inability to pay off loans and commit suicide, are the very same people who paid to watch this movie. They had money to watch a movie not once but multiple times. But no money to pay off the loans. They expect the government to waive off the loans, and the government has done that for sake of elections.

So do you see, how people are conveniently socialist? They want freebies as we are supposed to be a compassionate nation with socialist policies for the greater good of the poor. But when it comes to personal enjoyment, then people don't care about their responsibilities.

And yes, forgot to mention - farmers do not pay taxes at all!! They are not required to, by law
All of socialism is of convenience.
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Look what happened to movie halls in US with 10 dollar popcorn and the advent of streaming.. very few people go to movies now. Even moviepass at 10 bucks a month was making a killing. There’s hardly 2 movies a month worth watching.. and most can be seen on big screen tv. Why waste anymore money.. you can pause it at home and do Prod support.. then resume.. or watch next day.
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Look what happened to movie halls in US with 10 dollar popcorn and the advent of streaming.. very few people go to movies now. Even moviepass at 10 bucks a month was making a killing. There’s hardly 2 movies a month worth watching.. and most can be seen on big screen tv. Why waste anymore money.. you can pause it at home and do Prod support.. then resume.. or watch next day.
Reminds me of someone with 2-3 monitors who used to stream movies on one
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Look what happened to movie halls in US with 10 dollar popcorn and the advent of streaming.. very few people go to movies now. Even moviepass at 10 bucks a month was making a killing. There’s hardly 2 movies a month worth watching.. and most can be seen on big screen tv. Why waste anymore money.. you can pause it at home and do Prod support.. then resume.. or watch next day.
Yes, a free market economy allowed companies like Netflix to overtake traditional movie businesses like BlockBuster, Hollywood Video stores and now brick and mortar cinema multiplexes here.

Even today, people do go to the cinema halls in the USA, but they are not forced to eat or drink the exorbitant concessions. It is a choice of the multiplex to sell at whatever price and choice of patrons whether to eat or not.
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Yes, a free market economy allowed companies like Netflix to overtake traditional movie businesses like BlockBuster, Hollywood Video stores and now brick and mortar cinema multiplexes here.

Even today, people do go to the cinema halls in the USA, but they are not forced to eat or drink the exorbitant concessions. It is a choice of the multiplex to sell at whatever price and choice of patrons whether to eat or not.
A free market economy where there’s no room for small players.. we will run you down, monopolize and screw the customers with no real choices.
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A free market economy where there’s no room for small players.. we will run you down, monopolize and screw the customers with no real choices.
There is an anti trust act for that. Even in free market US, there are so many regulations varying by each state. Complying with them needs all us cyber coolies.

The most free market economy is supposedly Hong Kong
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There is an anti trust act for that. Even in free market US, there are so many regulations varying by each state. Complying with them needs all us cyber coolies.

The most free market economy is supposedly Hong Kong
Yes there are anti-trust laws, but you cannot clamp down and socialise business just because you want to protect every business. Its survival of the fittest.

In Mumbai there are numerous examples where big chains have not yet been able to shut down mom and pop shops. For example, the local 'baniya'. That shop is not going to shut down despite Big Bazaar and other super markets. The baniya provides the same stuff as in super markets but offers a convenience by way of location, free home delivery, order over the phone which the big stores cannot.

There are food ordering apps which get you almost anything you want to eat, yet the road side idli dosa vendor does good business.

In the USA, though there are big super stores like WalMart, people still go to smaller chains like Safeway or Smart and Final and even 7/11 for their needs. Else these stores would have closed long ago.

Yes, big chains and super stores do affect small businesses, but it keeps small businesses on their toes about customer service, quality of goods, etc.

Having a choice or even a limited choice in some cases is better than having what is happening with movie theaters in Maharashtra.
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100% Agreed. Few years we visited Mumbai, stayed in Taj, went once to their nice restaurent named Shamiyana for a post paid dinner, we took with us kid's favorite meal but when they notiiced, the incharge came to us and politely asked us not to open that meal on their table, he offered us to prepare the same in their kitchen, we agreed but their Kid's meal cost us 20 times more than ours.

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Multiplex is a private establishment. If the company want to make money from food, then they should be allowed to. As a consumer, if you don't like it, then don't give them your business. You don't HAVE to eat at the multiplex. Eat before the movie... eat after the movie. But why the fuck do you have to bring you ghar ka popcorn to the movie and expect the multiplex people to clean up your mess!!
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