eCharcha.Com   Support eCharcha.Com. Click on sponsor ad to shop online!

Advertise Here

Go Back   eCharcha.Com > LifeStyle > Life Abroad

Notices

Life Abroad All about life away from home

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old March 6th, 2002, 02:56 PM
echarcha's Avatar
echarcha echarcha is offline
Sutradhar {admin}
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 45,142
echarcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond repute
Question If you were to get a chance to be a citizen of another country?

Say you are here in USA on H1 visa. Then you apply for your Green Card. Then after 5 years since you got your green card you get your legal right to apply for US citizenship.

(Similar scenario applies to other eCharchans in countries other than USA)

Now some questions -

1) Will you apply for the the citizenship? (Other than for legal immigration issues like green card expiring after some years, etc.)

2) Will your heart still beat a tad higher when you hear "Jana Gana Mana..." or to "the national anthem of your country of residence"?


Some folks I know personally will jump at opportunity as in question one above. And feel happy to sing a new anthem.

Wot say you?


Please no derailing... Please dont start with Muslims did this in 1857 and Hindus did that in 1943 and... yawn yawn... and so I object to the question.. blah blah.. yadda yadda...
__________________
eCharcha.com
-Loud and Proud Desi Opinions

Last edited by echarcha; March 6th, 2002 at 03:09 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old March 6th, 2002, 02:59 PM
GpeL's Avatar
GpeL GpeL is offline
Pelu Pelu
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Yahaan vahaan jaahaan tahaan
Posts: 19,162
GpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond repute
Honestly I donot have a say in this. I will have to change my citizen ship. Reason, I have to apply for GC for my parents who are fairly alone in India and are old so I will have to do it.

Yes I will still have respect for India and everything Indian including vandemataram/janaganamana and also I probably be an american on paper although if ever required I will fight for both america and India (but not against either) but heart of heart I will always be an Indian.
__________________
GpeL a day
Keeps mischief away.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 6th, 2002, 03:11 PM
echarcha's Avatar
echarcha echarcha is offline
Sutradhar {admin}
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 45,142
echarcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond reputeecharcha has a reputation beyond repute
other than immigration procedures

Quote:
Originally posted by GpeL
Honestly I donot have a say in this. I will have to change my citizen ship. Reason, I have to apply for GC for my parents who are fairly alone in India and are old so I will have to do it.

Yes I will still have respect for India and everything Indian including vandemataram/janaganamana and also I probably be an american on paper although if ever required I will fight for both america and India (but not against either) but heart of heart I will always be an Indian.
will you be accepting the citizenship truly in your heart?

I mean I understand that you need to satisfy some legal procedures to be able to get your parents here. These are INS related issues...
__________________
eCharcha.com
-Loud and Proud Desi Opinions
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 6th, 2002, 06:47 PM
aashoo aashoo is offline
Senior eCharchan
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,258
aashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond reputeaashoo has a reputation beyond repute
I m happy on student visa here and my partner is on H1 and got the labour clearence too so when my partner ll get the citizenship I ll be citizen too BUT I ll be Indian by heart forever.

still when I speak to my friends I can spend nights talking about my India and we always talk about the best days of our life were those back in India.

As far Jan Gana Mana is concerned I can say in past two years never heard of that except instrumental in the Indian community Hall on 15th Aug. and 26th Jan. But still my eyes get wet when I listen 'Ae Mere Watan Ke Logo' from LATA MANGESHKAR.

wherever I ll be I ll be true INDIAN forever.

JAI HIND

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 7th, 2002, 12:09 AM
Netra's Avatar
Netra Netra is offline
Senior eCharchan
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Posts: 6,661
Netra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant future
I know that I'll always be an Indian at heart and also that I'll never be able to love Switzerland as much as I love India. That's why in spite of living here for 21 years, my hubby and I still hold Indian passports.

I just might be tempted to take up the Swiss nationality if Sonia Gandhi becomes the PM of India, in which case I would be ashamed to be called an Indian.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 7th, 2002, 12:51 AM
crazy-sexy-cool-babe's Avatar
crazy-sexy-cool-babe crazy-sexy-cool-babe is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Osho Commune International , 17 ,Koregaon Park Pune India
Posts: 865
crazy-sexy-cool-babe is on a distinguished road
Jai Hind Netaji :)

CSCB : Desh kaa Neta kaisaa ho

ALL :-NETRA JI JAISAA HO
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 7th, 2002, 05:42 AM
ShivSainik's Avatar
ShivSainik ShivSainik is offline
Senior eCharchan
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 5,253
ShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond reputeShivSainik has a reputation beyond repute
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally posted by Netra
I know that I'll always be an Indian at heart and also that I'll never be able to love Switzerland as much as I love India. That's why in spite of living here for 21 years, my hubby and I still hold Indian passports.

I just might be tempted to take up the Swiss nationality if Sonia Gandhi becomes the PM of India, in which case I would be ashamed to be called an Indian.
Thats like a true Indian. If I get such oportunity I wont change my nationality at all.
__________________
"Once you start thinking too much about your place in history, you're at a point where you're no longer trying as hard as you should be"
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 7th, 2002, 06:18 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Question when travelling in europe ....

Quote:
Originally posted by Netra
I know that I'll always be an Indian at heart and also that I'll never be able to love Switzerland as much as I love India. That's why in spite of living here for 21 years, my hubby and I still hold Indian passports.

I just might be tempted to take up the Swiss nationality if Sonia Gandhi becomes the PM of India, in which case I would be ashamed to be called an Indian.
....doesn't indian passport require you to have visa? For example, US citizens don't need visa for travel to Europe, but Indians (even those on GC) do.

Going by congress' performance in the recent assembly polls and BJP's total failure in wresting even one of the 4 states, Sonia could certainly be the next PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old March 7th, 2002, 06:25 AM
SimpleHuman SimpleHuman is offline
Senior eCharchan
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,200
SimpleHuman will become famous soon enough
I belive in "Citizen of the World" concept! At times if you hold nationality of certian countries you get certain benefits.

Next year I am looking forward to my Canadian Citizenship. But the teachings and traditions from India will be there with me forever

Who kya kehte hai na "Jis Desh me rehte ho aur uska khate ho!" loyalty must be mentained.

God Bless Canada (sahi kaha na eNRI?)
__________________
Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

---Not Me!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old March 7th, 2002, 06:37 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Talking for canadians, it is ......

Quote:
Originally posted by SimpleHuman

God Bless Canada (sahi kaha na eNRI?)
God save the Queen
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old March 7th, 2002, 07:27 AM
videsee's Avatar
videsee videsee is offline
Simple Indian Muslim
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 4,404
videsee is just really nicevidesee is just really nicevidesee is just really nicevidesee is just really nicevidesee is just really nice
Getting citizenship of another country does not mean one abdicates ones emotional links with our country of origin. And this is true for most nationalities. Look at the Chinese, Italians and Greeks. So we Indians are no different!

Personally, I will always call myself Indian. Even tho my Canadian citizenship is a matter of a few months. As for Vande Maataram and Jana Gana Mana......it will always bring a lump in my throat!

Thats how most immies are.....exceptions are certain sandaasiyaas or Commode-ity brokers!!!!!
__________________
"Keep away from small people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great."

Mark Twain
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old March 7th, 2002, 07:28 AM
Netra's Avatar
Netra Netra is offline
Senior eCharchan
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Posts: 6,661
Netra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant futureNetra has a brilliant future
Re: when travelling in europe ....

Quote:
Originally posted by eNRI


....doesn't indian passport require you to have visa? For example, US citizens don't need visa for travel to Europe, but Indians (even those on GC) do.
Yes of course, we need a visa, but so what? We take one every year. It is called the Schengen visa and is valid for travel to all countries in Europe excepting, UK, the Nordic countries and the East European countries.

I am not saying that Sonia will not become the PM of India. Most probably she will. All I am saying that it would be a matter of shame to Indians.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old March 7th, 2002, 07:31 AM
BlrBoy's Avatar
BlrBoy BlrBoy is offline
Senior eCharchan
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,944
BlrBoy is on a distinguished road
Re: Re: when travelling in europe ....

Quote:
Originally posted by Netra



I am not saying that Sonia will not become the PM of India. Most probably she will. All I am saying that it would be a matter of shame to Indians.
You mean to say Indians are shameless, if sonia becomes the PM
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old March 7th, 2002, 07:35 AM
GpeL's Avatar
GpeL GpeL is offline
Pelu Pelu
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Yahaan vahaan jaahaan tahaan
Posts: 19,162
GpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond reputeGpeL has a reputation beyond repute
Re: other than immigration procedures

Quote:
Originally posted by echarcha


will you be accepting the citizenship truly in your heart?

I mean I understand that you need to satisfy some legal procedures to be able to get your parents here. These are INS related issues...
Nope I will never be a "TRUE" american. I will always be a citizen for the heck of it thats all. Oh how I wish India starts dual citizenship fast.. my quandry will be over then.
__________________
GpeL a day
Keeps mischief away.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old March 7th, 2002, 07:48 AM
BlrBoy's Avatar
BlrBoy BlrBoy is offline
Senior eCharchan
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,944
BlrBoy is on a distinguished road
Re: other than immigration procedures

Quote:
Originally posted by echarcha


will you be accepting the citizenship truly in your heart?

I mean I understand that you need to satisfy some legal procedures to be able to get your parents here. These are INS related issues...
in one of the speach Clinton, was saying that he wants to do something for Irland. because his fore-fathers where from Ireland. If a Prez of US can have atttachment to a land that his fore-fathers, left think about us.. how much attachment we will have. by just changing on paper, nothing changes.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Chance Pe Dance Movie : Why would one take chance on this? khaski_khopari Films 9 March 2nd, 2010 06:51 AM
what is the chance military will take over our country gayaguzra#1 Indian Politics 1 December 1st, 2008 01:12 PM
What if you were a US citizen during war with India? dhurandhar Philosophy 3 August 2nd, 2005 07:27 AM
Saddam a citizen of Detroit Dada SoapBox 3 March 26th, 2003 04:23 PM
True Tales Of The Citizen Corps Parashuram Life Abroad 0 July 25th, 2002 04:12 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Site Copyright © eCharcha.Com 2000-2012.