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View Poll Results: Do you support or oppose Uniform Civil Code in India?
I support UCC 7 87.50%
I am against UCC 1 12.50%
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Old October 17th, 2016, 04:10 PM
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Uniform Civil Code Not Acceptable, Reiterates Muslim Law Board

Uniform Civil Code

The Uniform Civil Code is one of those many contentious topics in Indian politics that can stir up a hornet's nest. But before we take our stands, form opinions over dinner table conversations, and make our personal views known on a public domain, let's understand what the Uniform Civil Code is, and how it can change the lives of Indians.

The origin

Let us first understand that the UCC is not an invention of the ruling government. It was proposed in the original constitution of India, and was debated in the Parliament in 1949, and later between 1951 and 1954. Even though Prime Minister Nehru was personally in support of the bill, he was unable to convince the other members. Thus it was agreed to place the responsibility of a Uniform Civil Code on the State by including it in the Directive Principles of State Policy. This ended the first serious debate about the UCC, and gave birth to various laws and law boards, who created their respective the customs and practices for their community to abide by.

One nation, one law

Once adopted, the UCC will ensure the implementation of one law on issues like marriage, divorce/separation and inheritance, which will be uniformly applicable for all Indians irrespective of religion, caste, and community. In the current format, there are different laws for each major community. The logic? India is a diverse country and it consists of various communities that derive their personal laws based on their beliefs. But, let's pause here and ask some relevant questions is it fair when some laws start discriminating deliberately on the basis of gender.

The decision of the current government is simply to ensure that we are all governed by a single law. As long as personal law boards exist in this country, equal rights will be a utopian concept. For example, in the current system, if a Hindu woman's husband elopes with another woman, she can drag him to the court of law and seek justice. On the other hand, a Muslim woman has no such right. On matters like divorce, women don't enjoy equal rights. Even the Supreme Court of India has indicated the need for laws that are common to all citizens. The SC through its rulings in different cases has repeatedly given a message that the personal laws are not final.

Redefining secularism

In a country that prides itself on being the world's largest democracy and where debates on secularism occupy the centre stage every other day, for a woman of that country to still file petitions seeking maintenance after being divorced in a very abrupt way, it is shameful.

Possibly the idea of different personal laws was feasible before, but given the current scenario and the alarming rise in gender crimes, the UCC will unite the society against evils like gender inequality and misogyny. This bill should be thoroughly debated upon, and every teen needs to voice his/her opinion about one homogenous India. The entire world is seeing a rise in religious extremism, and India can set a classic example of how a diverse nation can stand united.

The youth of our country must come together to redefine secularism. A thorough study will tell you that secularism doesn't mean that religion must be separated from state institutions, as far as personal laws are concerned. We are quite vociferous on issues like net neutrality, and the UCC too deserves a similar enthusiastic treatment.

Landmark Cases

The Supreme Court first directed the Parliament to frame a UCC in 1985 in the case of Mohammad Ahmed Khan v. Shah Bano Begum. In this case, a penurious Muslim woman claimed for maintenance from her husband under Section 125 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, after she was given triple talaq from him. The SC held that a Muslim woman has a right to get maintenance from her husband under Section 125.

The second instance in which the SC again directed the government of Article 44 was in the case of Sarla Mudgal v. Union of India. In this case, the question was whether a Hindu husband, married under the Hindu law, by embracing Islam, can solemnize second marriage. The Court held that a Hindu marriage solemnized under the Hindu law can only be dissolved on any of the grounds specified under the Hindu Marriage Act, 1955. Conversion to Islam and marrying again would not, by itself, dissolve the Hindu marriage under the Act. And thus, a second marriage solemnized after converting to Islam would be an offence under Section 494[5] of the Indian Penal Code.
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What prompted me to post was a few muslims around me putting this picture on their whatsapp profile pic and/or FB profile.

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At times some of my muslim friends make me feel that they are doing a favor by staying in India. The congress,over the years has made them a spoilt child.
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At times some of my muslim friends make me feel that they are doing a favor by staying in India. The congress,over the years has made them a spoilt child.
cowardly hindus were not able to drive out muslims from india the way we drove out all hindus and sikhs out of pakistan
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What prompted me to post was a few muslims around me putting this picture on their whatsapp profile pic and/or FB profile.

soon with the rising population of muslims sharia will be made compulsory all across india . hindu women will be forced to marry muslim men
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Re: Uniform Civil Code Not Acceptable, Reiterates Muslim Law Board

Surprisingly, NDTV is now complaining about triple talaq.
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Surprisingly, NDTV is now complaining about triple talaq.
But I heard Brinda Karat supporting the call to end triple talaq and agreeing with govt's stand. Looks like she's losing her influence over NDTV. As most will know Brinda is sister-in-law of NDTV's bigshot Prannoy Roy.
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soon with the rising population of muslims sharia will be made compulsory all across india . hindu women will be forced to marry muslim men
and muslims will start eating bacon - signs of changing times, utopia is there will be no religion - only money.
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From whatsapp..

अजीब चाहतें हैं मेरे मुल्क़ के बाशिन्दों की...

कानून मजहबी चाहिये
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Strange are the desires of my countrymen,
Laws should be religion based but country should be secular.
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From whatsapp..

अजीब चाहतें हैं मेरे मुल्क़ के बाशिन्दों की...

कानून मजहबी चाहिये
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देश धर्मनिरपेक्ष !!


English translation:

Strange are the desires of my countrymen,
Laws should be religion based but country should be secular.

wah wah!

classic contradiction we have been facing...
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Re: Uniform Civil Code Not Acceptable, Reiterates Muslim Law Board

The need of the hour is to not be jingoist and put muslims on defensive. Then it will never materialize. If UCC is in the national interest which I believe it is, then this need to be implemented tactfully, without alienating people.

If Modi takes this to heart, he can make it happen. There has not been a better times to implement this than now. Make it look like a fair deal, all religions have to give up something, not just muslims.
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The need of the hour is to not be jingoist and put muslims on defensive. Then it will never materialize. If UCC is in the national interest which I believe it is, then this need to be implemented tactfully, without alienating people.

If Modi takes this to heart, he can make it happen. There has not been a better times to implement this than now. Make it look like a fair deal, all religions have to give up something, not just muslims.
I cant confess to following each press release seriously. I did not see anything on muslims having to give up religious freedoms whenever UCC is initiated officially.
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I cant confess to following each press release seriously. I did not see anything on muslims having to give up religious freedoms whenever UCC is initiated officially.
But they are convulsing like anything, especially being used by Owaisi to unite Muslims. Even Najma Heptullah who is in BJP and quite liberal is against repealing the teen talaq.
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They can't willy-nilly remove these laws... these laws have been made in the heavens. Only a country above heaven, like USA, can ban these laws
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