Mahadev Shiv - the Supreme, the Ultimate

[Premi]

Originally Posted by motowner

But why keep it wet? And why is it worshipped?

(I purposely didnt use a smiley.. Peacey is going to be pissed if we drive this thread in a different direction)

its okay ,,,his Id already has piss in it... go ahead.

[smellyfinger]

Originally Posted by motowner

But why keep it wet? And why is it worshipped?

(I purposely didnt use a smiley.. Peacey is going to be pissed if we drive this thread in a different direction)

The ling is never by itself. If you look at the base, there is always the yoni. So what you are doing is keeping things lubricated, else it would hurt like a mother.

And you are not worshipping the ling, you are worshipping the union.

[PeaceSeeker]

Shiv Ling is Shiv's penis, of course. And, yes, the form it is worshiped in is the Ling penetrating the Yoni.

Life begins when the male and female organs get close and personal. Its symbolic of 'beginning of the creation'.

Its the Ling of the biggest yogi. It's stamina, power is something that every woman-of-substance will desire. For others, anything will do.

Most of worshiped things are offered milk. Nothing particular in usage of milk.

Thread ko derail karo ya rerail. Mahadev doesn't mind innocent childish provocations. He is Bhola himself. He is at peace in two worlds at one time.

[krantikari]

Originally Posted by PeaceSeeker

Its the Ling of the biggest yogi.

Abhi entry hoga tantrik ka !!

[smellyfinger]

Originally Posted by krantikari

Abhi entry hoga tantrik ka !!

Nahin nahin .. theek se padh .. he didnt say the biggest ling .. he said the ling of the biggest yogi.

[Sane Less]

Originally Posted by PeaceSeeker

Shiv Ling is Shiv's penis, of course. And, yes, the form it is worshiped in is the Ling penetrating the Yoni.

Life begins when the male and female organs get close and personal. Its symbolic of 'beginning of the creation'.

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I am sorry but I am having great problems visualizing this. Every image/structure of the ling that I have seen always has the top rounded off... basically indicating the head of the ling. If that is a penetrating ling then it seems to have penetrated and come out the other side. Would that be right

My take on all gods/sadhus/rishis/prophets is that they were extraordinary human beings of their times. They must have performed some great feat to become known wide around the local world... which eventually started the prayers and favours. And slowly became superhumans... with the prayers and favours continuing even after their deaths.

So... was there a Shiva? Sure. Did he perform a great feat... yep, entirely possible that he may have drunk the vish from the manthan. Did he turn blue... absolutely. And he probably died because of the event. But the event gave him omnipresence and omnipotence... and he became renowned world around. As for the ling story... well we have pandrainchees famous even today

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by krantikari

Abhi entry hoga tantrik ka !!

Originally Posted by smellyfinger

Nahin nahin .. theek se padh .. he didnt say the biggest ling .. he said the ling of the biggest yogi.

very nicely observed
size is secondary. ability to endure in the act for longer times is primary.

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by smellyfinger

But if he is neelkanth .. blue neck .. why is he blue all over? This question has always bugged me. If he turned blue all over, then the poison reached every part of his body .. In which case his name should be neeltan and he should be dead.

Originally Posted by Sane Less

So... was there a Shiva? Sure. Did he perform a great feat... yep, entirely possible that he may have drunk the vish from the manthan. Did he turn blue... absolutely. And he probably died because of the event.

It is true that there is life and there is death. there is this life and there is after life. this is this world and there is that world.

Bholey is in this and that already. The defn of conventional life-and-death does not apply to him as such.

His partial movement from here to there results in transition of yug on planet earth.

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by Sane Less

I am sorry but I am having great problems visualizing this. Every image/structure of the ling that I have seen always has the top rounded off... basically indicating the head of the ling. If that is a penetrating ling then it seems to have penetrated and come out the other side.

or the depiction could be inside out. what r you getting act?

sex could be sacred too. a yogi like Bholey does not indulge in materialistic pleasures just for the heck of it. sex need not be a subject of humour or pleasure every single time.

oops. did i forget : whacky :

[sunnykode]

Okay here is my questions.

Shiv ling is worshiped everywhere. But isn't a ling symbol of d***?
Then in other words, are we worshiping you know what?
I have read this info somewhere, not sure where and when.

Worshiped in old civilizations as a symbol of reproduction?

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by sunnykode

Okay here is my questions.

Shiv ling is worshiped everywhere. But isn't a ling symbol of d***?
Then in other words, are we worshiping you know what?
I have read this info somewhere, not sure where and when.

Worshiped in old civilizations as a symbol of reproduction?

this is explained just few posts above.

Shiv ling is not the symbol, it IS his Ling.

In some clutures, sex & topics around it are prohibited to be brought out in the open. In other cultures, they are considered so very normal, usual, just-another-thing to discuss and do, that they are almost rendered value-less.

Hindoo culture [theoretically] neither prohibits its discussion nor treats it like a just-another-thing.

and what do you mean 'worshiped in old civilizations'? It was,in and will always be worshiped. Zaroorat se jyada modern mat bano

More gyan later.

[Sane Less]

Originally Posted by PeaceSeeker

or the depiction could be inside out. what r you getting act?

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I was not getting at anything. I just wanted to get my visualization right... next time I happen to see it... anywhere... that's all

[EkateesMaarKhan]

All the well-know shivbhakts have been screwed by narayan and during those testing times of shivbhakts, shiva had thrown his hands in despair.

Ravan used his veins as strings to karaoke his songs to please shiv. But even this extreme bhakti for shiv couldn’t help him when he pressed the wrong button of narayan.

A word of caution to all shiv-bhakts. Never ever be a bhakt of shiv solely. Keep the bakhti of narayan also as a back-up.

[badriprasad]

Excellent thread and some of most informative and thoughtful participation. My compliments to you all.

Except for one thing ... aren't you missing something here? The most urgent aspect of Lord Shiva's powers?

Lord Shiva is Shiva+Shakti? ... ShivaShakti? ... A Plurality? Of Two Opposing Forces/Energies? ... Joined Together? ... Working Together? ... In unison? ... Male+Female? ... Linga+Yoni are a Symbol of that Force/Energy? ... And Not Sexual Fetish YOU guys seem to harbor? ... Do faithful pray to Penis and Pussy? ... NO. Faithfuls are not praying to Genitals! ... Right? ... So what do they Worship? ... Do I need to elaborate?

[krantikari]

Mahakala as worshipped in Tibetian Buddhism



Is the same as Daikokuten as worshiped in Japanese Buddhism



Is the same as Dai Hei Tian (two images below) in Chinese Buddhism







They are all none other than the deity we know as Shiva