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Old April 14th, 2015, 06:16 AM
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News or Bubble

This is the opposite for Shakti Pai's thread on 'news that was not'. This is on non issues that grab the headlines.

This one is on 'Net Neutrality'. And it emerges that India has overtaken US as the country where it is discussed most. And Cong leaders have it all over their twitter pages.

But do many discussing it understand what it is? In US, it is because the companies which provide the net also provide TV services and are trying to restrict Netflix, etc.

But do any such conflicts exist in India. I think only airtel may have both net services and TV transmission. And is there any selective blocking. And lastly, how much of streaming TV is there right now.

Here is one on MSM today -


Switching sides to support ‘net neutrality‘, e-commerce major Flipkart today decided to “walk away” from its proposed tie-up with Airtel that has been at the centre of a raging debate over a need to maintain equal Internet access for all.
“We will be walking away from the ongoing discussions with Airtel for their platform Airtel Zero,” Flipkart said.
Net neutrality implies equal treatment to all Internet traffic and any priority given to an application or company on payment basis is seen as violating the concept.
Launched last week, Airtel Zero is an open-marketing platform that allows customers to access certain mobile applications for free with charges being borne by app makers.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 08:10 AM
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wtf is net neutrality and why should I care? some mumbo jumbo crap ..
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Old April 14th, 2015, 08:13 AM
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wtf is net neutrality and why should I care? some mumbo jumbo crap ..
Of course it is. And it is hogging the front page and will soon hog the headlines. Yupp TV has taken off NDTV now and i am not bothering to follow it, but i would not be surprised if there is a Barkha Dutt show on it.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 08:40 AM
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Of course it is. And it is hogging the front page and will soon hog the headlines. Yupp TV has taken off NDTV now and i am not bothering to follow it, but i would not be surprised if there is a Barkha Dutt show on it.
what? I will have to check today evening. Not that I watch a whole lot of NDTV or Yupp anyway. I would prefer India TV (Rajat Sharma waala) .. good Hindi news channel with hardly any BS, also doesn't hold meaningless TV debates.
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RE: Net neutrality problem :

^^ IMO,....It's basically for India and few other nations, for the time-being at present,.. where every private sellers sell their ISP services with their own freedom,.. and blocks some sites and some not,..... allow some porn/cookies/ad makers/ trackers/hackers /,.... allow some cookies to track you, and slow down some sites intentionally ( say Amazon if they are not patched up with them ) to allow them less business,.... and on the other hand, faster opening some sites say,. flip-karts, once they have commission established with them, to make it open fast,..also political factors - say if NDTV speaks ill of AAP, then slow them down so less ppl will be able to surf it fast,.. etc..

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But besides that,.. think it this way,...

Assume that the electricity and phone service is coming at various and diff speed to all,....

Say, for some one it takes 3 hours to cook rice 'coz their elec. is coming at a slower rate,..

Say,.. some guys hear your sound in broken sentences in phone and it takes 20 minutes to hear at the other hand , what you speak,..
and so on,..

Say, some cable services buffer and it will take 6 hours to watch their movie on your flat screen,... etc.

How difficult it would be to use the electricity and sound waves signals for all on the globe, if it was like that !!

^^ You got the point. Same here. We are all suffering due to not having the net-neutrality.

I guess eventually,.. all the nations wile force all of its ISP sellers to send and sell the signals only at one most latest and greatest speed ( tech. available ) so that all can be on the same page and can talk the same language.

Though, it's difficult to totally match up and pick up with the most current speed and technology in all areas, as it costs money to install the u/g High density Fiber optic latest wires, and hence, this problem will always remain, imo, that all sellers will have all diff. speeds and you can buy any package you choose...

But, In India and many other nations, they play all kind of politics as mentioned in my first para above,...

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Fight for the net neutrality !

https://www.youtube.com/embed/mfY1NKrzqi0

Please watch this video and send an e-mail to TRAI.
Check out: Save The Internet!

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More tips I saw here,.
http://forum.santabanta.com/showthre...ght-to-save-it


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Old April 14th, 2015, 10:28 PM
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Re: News or Bubble

Telcos like Airtel want you to surf or shop from sites of only their choice. They will select applications of their choice , take ransom money from apps owners and provide these apps free to the consumers. Consumers will have no choice but just to use those apps for surfing, searching or shopping. Flipkart was on the board.

So Shakti pai, if you are a airtel customer and don't care about net neutrality , you would have to do shopping from flipkart only, search from bing only, job search from some babajobs instead of naukri.com.

Flipkart would charge you more for all products as you would not be able to see the price from other shopping sites. If you want to surf open internet, you would have to pay high price for net connection.

In short, Telcos want to control how you use internet. Which is free for public otherwise.

Money Game.
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This is another example of how to present numbers.

Look at this headline

One in five child labourers is from Uttar Pradesh

now, i checked out 2011 census and found that one in six of Indians is also from UP. i hold no brief for 'Ulta Pradesh', but the news item tries to say that the problem is limited to UP.

During the cigarette ad discussions in NDTV also they used to throw numbers like so many Lakh people die due to tobacco every year. And how many die of other causes
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Re: News or Bubble

well this is not a bubble.Sometimes even MLAs can be in involved in stalling a train.A not so usual news. so sharing it.

In a second thought,why it can,t be so,after all most of the attacks on toll nakas in maharashtra in recent tines were carried out by a political party.


Nanded MLAs stall train for 55 minutes


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...w/47699019.cms

AURANGABAD: The Mumbai-bound 17058 Devagiri Express was allegedly stalled by a group of MLAs from Nanded for 55 minutes on Monday after their tickets under the MLA quota were not confirmed by the railways.

While other passengers on the train were left fuming, the railway authorities remained mute spectators. The delay disrupted the schedule of trains across railway stations till Mumbai.
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LoL - Now, a train delay of 55 minutes becomes a news.
Long back, my train got delayed by 1-2 hours by some protesting BJP workers.

One news was that there was an NSUI convention in Nagpur and the NSUI guys were travelling in the Chhatisgarh express. They were just looting the vendors at whichever station the train halted. The train got renamed to 'Lootmaar express'. Apparently, some one threw a plate at Margaret alva. A few years later similar feats were repeated in a Flight to then USSR when the same bunch was going for a 'Youth festival'. Apart from similar activites by rest of the gang, there was a photo of Anand Sharma dancing with a Russian girl, but i cannot find it anywhere now.
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