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Old July 18th, 2009, 12:43 AM
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Compulsory Voting Bill introduced in Lok Sabha


The Compulsory Voting Bill, 2009, introduced by Delhi Pradesh Congress chief J P Agarwal seeks to make voting compulsory for every voter who is eligible to vote in an election called for by the Election Commission.

It also proposes a fine of Rs 500 or two days' imprisonment or forfeiture of the ration card of the person who fails to cast his vote.

The bill seeks to deduct 10 days' salary and delay promotion for a period of two years of a government servant who fails to exercise his franchise.

The draft legislation seeks to incentivise voting by proposing to give preference to persons in government jobs and admission in institutions of higher education if they exercise their franchise for 15 years without a break.

The bill seeks to exempt a person from voting if he is physically incapacitated because of illness of a serious nature.

Advani had mooted the idea of making voting compulsory and having fixed terms for legislatures and Parliament about two months back.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2009/jul/...-lok-sabha.htm
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Wow... Now this is something!!! Wonder what the upper class sophisiticated folks will do now? They will have to vote now... You know those Napeansea Road types....
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This is good.
This should get approved and implemented as soon as possible.
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lets hope the bill is passed
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Wow... Now this is something!!! Wonder what the upper class sophisiticated folks will do now? They will have to vote now... You know those Napeansea Road types....
They will not vote and ask their servants to pay up the fine on their behalf.
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Re: A Major Step Ahead! Compulsory Voting Bill introduced in Lok Sabha

do you think this bill will even get passed ? who is this fool who is cutting the very branch he is sitting on ?
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Old July 18th, 2009, 04:26 AM
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If the educated are forced to vote, the kangress does not stand a chance. I wonder why the Kangress wants to meke voting compulsary
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Re: A Major Step Ahead! Compulsory Voting Bill introduced in Lok Sabha

bloody hypocrites... these very congressies ridiculed advani for suggesting the same thing. but now they want to implement this

now i wonder in 6 months if they will do same thing with black money in swiss banks...
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Re: A Major Step Ahead! Compulsory Voting Bill introduced in Lok Sabha

If this bill is passed people will fill form no 7 and reach the election comissioners office.

Some will delete names to avoid fine for not voting and some will have thier names deleted from their previous residing place where thier names in voter list have not been transfered or deleted.Yes its common for people here to have thier names in voters list in different places,like a person has migrated to Mumbai he wont transfer his voters list name to Mumbai from his native place but will fill up a new form for inclusion of name in Mumbai.Some get thier name enrolled again if they are shifting within city limits also like a person staying in Dadar shifts to Dahisar he will again fill up a form in Dahisar without getting his name removed from the Dadar list.
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Is there any bill for compulsary Electricity & fresh water for every Indian... ?

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Is there any bill for compulsary Electricity & fresh water for every Indian... ?

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Great Idea, Budmaas... There must be a law to make accountability compulsory for the politicians.

BTW, I have had some ideas on compulsory voting for some time now.

Then, just around the general elections, some doctor from Pune had filed a PIL in the supreme court about it. The Supreme Court rejected it citing difficulties in implementation.

That cuts rough. I mean, the supreme court has the power to direct the Government to formulate laws, and to haul it up for non-implementation.

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Now, how many elections does a voter go through in his lifetime?

General elections, state elections, municipal/panchayat/local elections. Voting should be compulsory in ALL these elections.

I think the moot point is the Penalty for non-voting public.. I think it wont do to have penalties for first time offenders. Maybe the non-voters should be let off with a warning the first time, maybe a written apology the second time, and then penalty the third time onwards in increasing doses.

There should be some definition of habitual offenders.

There should be incentives for regular voters (over ?15 years period).. like maybe income tax rebate, 0.5% additional rate of interest on FD, lower housing loan rate .. notation in passport, job priority etc..

Also, shouldn't the election commission be penalised for mistakes in the voter list?

Now, how do I get these ideas to Manmohan Singh/Advani ?
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Re: A Major Step Ahead! Compulsory Voting Bill introduced in Lok Sabha

And they should have some voting system in place for people who reside outside the country and want to vote.

At this point the only way to vote is going to the Embassy physically .
Not sure if they an option of mailing..
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Re: A Major Step Ahead! Compulsory Voting Bill introduced in Lok Sabha

This is a good initiative but not really implementable, neither necessary.

As long as people, who can vote, do not vote, they have no right to bitch and moan about the government.

I think people in India who are internet savvy, visit multiplexes and generally enjoy Western things are well off or are from upper middle class. These folks just do their bit by taking part in candle light vigils to protest terrorism and then call politics as a cesspool. This is the extent of their civic duty and responsibility. When elections are announced and if they fall close to a weekend or start of a week, these folks pack their bags and go for vacations to Goa, Mauritius, Lonavla, Khandala, etc, etc.

The middle class Mumbaikar who works as a clerk or some such routine job, lives in a small low income apt. complex or chawl, immediately packs his bags and heads for the State Transport (ST) bus stand in Mumbai Central. From there he goes to his village in Konkan or Western Maharashtra. Others from Eastern Maharashtra like Nagpur, etc. flock to the Mumbai Central or VT railway station and catch the first overnight train to go their 'home town'. Voting? Who cares? Someone will use their voter name for duplicate voting anyways.

So why bother with forcing people to vote. People dont care.
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This is a good initiative but not really implementable, neither necessary.

As long as people, who can vote, do not vote, they have no right to bitch and moan about the government.

I think people in India who are internet savvy, visit multiplexes and generally enjoy Western things are well off or are from upper middle class. These folks just do their bit by taking part in candle light vigils to protest terrorism and then call politics as a cesspool. This is the extent of their civic duty and responsibility. When elections are announced and if they fall close to a weekend or start of a week, these folks pack their bags and go for vacations to Goa, Mauritius, Lonavla, Khandala, etc, etc.

The middle class Mumbaikar who works as a clerk or some such routine job, lives in a small low income apt. complex or chawl, immediately packs his bags and heads for the State Transport (ST) bus stand in Mumbai Central. From there he goes to his village in Konkan or Western Maharashtra. Others from Eastern Maharashtra like Nagpur, etc. flock to the Mumbai Central or VT railway station and catch the first overnight train to go their 'home town'. Voting? Who cares? Someone will use their voter name for duplicate voting anyways.

So why bother with forcing people to vote. People dont care.
You explained how people don't care for voting.
But why it is not necessary?
I think it is okay to have this law but punishment is too harsh (2 years' imprisonment or forfeiture of ration card etc.)
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You explained how people don't care for voting.
But why it is not necessary?
I think it is okay to have this law but punishment is too harsh (2 years' imprisonment or forfeiture of ration card etc.)
You see people in a democracy get very complacent and take their freedoms for granted. They deserve to be screwed by the shitty government they elect or dont elect. I will side with politicians on this one that if the electorate keeps voting on caste and other silly regional issues despite lack of performance; or dont vote for reasons mentioned, then there is no point in punishing these people. They are already getting punished by their action/inaction. Look at Mumbaikars - all chewtiyas who helped Congress come back to power. Just now there were rains and our 'Shanghai like Mumbai' turned into a slum worse than one found in that shithole Africa. Water logging and life at a standstill. Mumbaikars deserve this!!

Mumbaikars tuned out lesser than last elections at the voting booth. vking or ashdoc had posted a thread with links on the low voter turnout. Despite terrorist attacks and sorry state of affairs Mumbaikars avoided voting. So good that they are getting fucked by UPA by way of higher cooking gas prices! Mumbaikars deserve this. Infact those morons who did not vote deserve this more!!

So the Greek word Idiot which denotes a person who does not vote, suits perfectly for irresponsible assholes who dont vote.
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