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Old June 11th, 2011, 01:06 PM
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Ahem ... can Baba Ramdev and Anna Hazare focus on this too or take this issue up? I get it that political parties will never want 'caste' to go away, but these 'social change workers' can work on this issue too, or rather as their first issue before all else!

And what kind of shit is this with our folks? Kids are getting free meals, and their parents want to pollute their minds with 'caste' and crap?

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Despite the country’s surging economy and growing clout at the global geopolitical high table, swathes of India continue to endorse the deeply-entrenched caste system.

This sad reality was highlighted yet again recently in a report by Lucknow University’s department of education. According to the report, 40 percent of the schools across sample districts in Uttar Pradesh -- India’s most populous state, with 199 million people -- teachers and students refuse to partake of government-sponsored free midday meals because they are cooked by dalits (once known as untouchables).

The report adds that upper primary school children take less midday meals than those in the lower grades because the ‘upper primary children…are more aware of the caste system and do not like to take midday meal prepared by SC (scheduled caste) cooks.’

This is all the more ironic considering dalits have revolutionized life in Uttar Pradesh. Many of the state’s top politicians and administrators are dalits, and the state is helmed by the feisty Mayawati, who despite her sometimes arbitrary and vengeful way of governing, has still ushered in meaningful economic change. (Uttar Pradesh is the second largest state economy in India, and contributed 8.34 percent to India’s GDP in the 2010 financial year).

Unfortunately, while the caste system has been officially abolished under the Indian Constitution, there’s still blatant discrimination and prejudice against the Dalits. They are frequently refused entry to temples, schools, eateries and barred from participating in community gatherings. They are sometimes still even ostracized to the point that they are made to live on the outskirts of villages.

The word ‘dalit’ is derived from the Sanskrit word for ‘ground,’ ‘suppressed,’ ‘crushed,’ or ‘broken to pieces.’ In ancient times, dalits were synonymous with lowly occupations such as butchering, making footwear or cleaning toilets and sewers. Engaging in these activities was considered ‘polluting’ to the individual.

Post-independence, the Indian government has done much to try to improve their lot by providing them opportunities for education, health and employment. Clearly, though, there’s still an uphill battle changing people’s mindsets.

Neeta Lal is a New Delhi-based senior journalist.

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Old June 11th, 2011, 01:10 PM
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Either way the political parties may bring out the caste factor in them later in life to get their votes so why not teach them from early age
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Ahem ... can Baba Ramdev and Anna Hazare focus on this too or take this issue up? I get it that political parties will never want 'caste' to go away, but these 'social change workers' can work on this issue too, or rather as their first issue before all else!

And what kind of shit is this with our folks? Kids are getting free meals, and their parents want to pollute their minds with 'caste' and crap?
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This is fukkin limit.

How the hell the kid's understand and know what is untouchability?

Mothafukkin parents and teachers are teaching them.

What difference does it make by who cooked the food. Inn saalo ko bhukhaa hee rehne do.




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This is fukkin limit.

How the hell the kid's understand and know what is untouchability?

Mothafukkin parents and teachers are teaching them.

What difference does it make by who cooked the food. Inn saalo ko bhukhaa hee rehne do.




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the kids might have seen the cooks pissing in the water they use for cooking or not washing his hands after taking a dump (no tissues used by common folk in India, mind you!)...heck if a panipuri wala in maharashtra can piss in water used to dip puris, why can't dalit in UP possibly do something similar?

As we know, media worldwide somehow loves to portray India as backward
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Mayawati ji is probably busy inaugurating parks while such indignities happen in a state ruled by a dalit. And why is Rahul baba silent, he is who is the saviour of the Dalits and the oppressed.
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All Scheduled Castes & Scheduled Tribes must convert to Islam or Christianity.

General caste Hindu treat Muslims & Christians with respect.
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All Scheduled Castes & Scheduled Tribes must convert to Islam or Christianity.

General caste Hindu treat Muslims & Christians with respect.
Agree with what you said broadly, Swami Vivekananda called Kerala a `mad house` seeing the treatment meted out to Pariahs and mentions that the same pariah would be recieved with respect in the houses of the upper caste once he changed his name to Muhammad or John.

Mayawati may have salvaged the pride of the Dalits but her administration is not good from what I have read and heard from UP people. Nitish Kumar and Narendra Modi, both OBC's, are the ones who have shone as good administrators and have done well for their states.
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Its a free midday meal and they dont want it? Fine. Dont have it. Please bring your own lunch from your home.
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Mayawati ji is probably busy inaugurating parks while such indignities happen in a state ruled by a dalit. And why is Rahul baba silent, he is who is the saviour of the Dalits and the oppressed.
Pray tell, what exactly you want him do?
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Mayawati ji is probably busy inaugurating parks while such indignities happen in a state ruled by a dalit. And why is Rahul baba silent, he is who is the saviour of the Dalits and the oppressed.
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Pray tell, what exactly you want him do?
Mango Aunty might not be in a position to publicly start chanting hymns(praying) to give you your answer so can I pray and tell you??

He is supposed to go camp at the dalit-anandani complex and start eating everything cooked by the dalit kids including the uneaten mid day meals till the dalit children get tired of cooking and start screaming in fear at the thought of having to cook for anyone...

Maywati...well what can she do...she is a dalit and a komal kanya kunwaari dalit at that...aaj takk uske bechaari ke haath se kisi ne kuchh naheen khaaya...kanshi ram khaane laga...uss se pehle kanshi ram se kanshi ram ram satya ho gaya...

so woh to khudd rahul baba ki waiting karr rhai...shaayad kisi din mayawati ki jhopdi mein bhi rahul ji aayein...aur phir khaane ke baad....thoda bohat flirt karein...phir romantic drive pe dono mayawati ke dalit bailon waali dalit dhodagaadi mein long drive pe jaayein...phir unke ghar kuchh waqt baad ek pars-o-talian dalit paida ho...jo apna swiss bank kholay...

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Pray tell, what exactly you want him do?
I posted that 1) as reply to echarcha's post reg Anna and Baba Ramdev doing something on the issue of dalits and 2) coz Congress spokes persons such as Digvijaya Singh and media are making an issue that Anna Hazare and Baba Ramdev not being elected representatives have no right to hold satyagrah. Hv posted link for same in another BRD thread.

Rahul's performance as elected representative of the people of Amethi, copy pasting a comment from an Indian site (these figures are available on central govt web sites) -

Amethi has seen several generations of Gandhi dynasty. now let us have a look at the status of Amethi:

(1) Amethi has 39.5% literacy level (national average being around 65%),

(2) Around 50% population is below poverty line

(3) Only 15% population has access to electricity

(4) Vaccination level is below 16%

(5) Around 16% of children die below age of 5 years

(6) Amethi received Rs.3.06 crore as developmental fund (or MPLAD) from Govt. of India in 2009-10 of which Rahul Gandhi used merely 5.89% (0.18 crore). --------

Now let us see Rahul's record as a champion youth icon Member of Parliament :

(1) The national MP attendance average in the parliament is 77%. Rahul Gandhi's attendance is 47%.

(2) National average for questions asked by MPs in parliament is 119. Rahul Gandhi asked ZERO questions.

(3) The national average for Debates attended by MPs is 15.6. Rahul Gandhi attended ZERO debates.
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Rahul Gandhi's attendance is 47%


Rahul Gandhi asked ZERO questions. [/i]

Rahul Gandhi attended ZERO debates.

WHERE IS MONITOR SWAMI....WHERE TF IS MONITOR SWAMI

HE WAS SUPPOSED TO MARK ATTENDANCE AND GIVE THE ''WORRIED'' QUESTION SHEET TO RAHUL GANDHI TOO......MUST BE SITTING WITH SONIYA2 and ENJOYING THE MID DAY COFFEE

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This is fukkin limit.

How the hell the kid's understand and know what is untouchability?

Mothafukkin parents and teachers are teaching them.

What difference does it make by who cooked the food. Inn saalo ko bhukhaa hee rehne do.




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heck if a panipuri wala in maharashtra can piss in water used to dip puris, why can't dalit in UP possibly do something similar?

As we know, media worldwide somehow loves to portray India as backward
side note... what happened to the sue for 1 crore by that girl agianst some BJP leader.
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I posted that 1) as reply to echarcha's post reg Anna and Baba Ramdev doing something on the issue of dalits and 2) coz Congress spokes persons such as Digvijaya Singh and media are making an issue that Anna Hazare and Baba Ramdev not being elected representatives have no right to hold satyagrah. Hv posted link for same in another BRD thread.

Rahul's performance as elected representative of the people of Amethi, copy pasting a comment from an Indian site (these figures are available on central govt web sites) -

Amethi has seen several generations of Gandhi dynasty. now let us have a look at the status of Amethi:

(1) Amethi has 39.5% literacy level (national average being around 65%),

(2) Around 50% population is below poverty line

(3) Only 15% population has access to electricity

(4) Vaccination level is below 16%

(5) Around 16% of children die below age of 5 years

(6) Amethi received Rs.3.06 crore as developmental fund (or MPLAD) from Govt. of India in 2009-10 of which Rahul Gandhi used merely 5.89% (0.18 crore). --------

Now let us see Rahul's record as a champion youth icon Member of Parliament :

(1) The national MP attendance average in the parliament is 77%. Rahul Gandhi's attendance is 47%.

(2) National average for questions asked by MPs in parliament is 119. Rahul Gandhi asked ZERO questions.

(3) The national average for Debates attended by MPs is 15.6. Rahul Gandhi attended ZERO debates.
OK..,great but I still don't see what you want Rahul to do here. Do you want him to attend the parliament and ask more questions? Great, good ide. But how is he supposed to convince these people that its OK to eat food prepared by Dalits?

Adminji, this question is to you as well. How is Anna or anyone for that matter related to these people refusing to eat food cooked by Dalits?
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