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View Poll Results: Should India go for biometrics based voting ?
Yes, biometrics based voting is a good idea 4 66.67%
No, sounds hassly and won't do anything for bogus voting 1 16.67%
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Lightbulb Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

In recent elections, there have been reports of "Finger faking" during elections.

Uttar Pradesh elections: Busted - fake fingers, real votes

Fake Finger Technique for Bogus Voting!

With biometrics being the flavor of the term with the governments, why can't we have biometrics based voting ? This will not only eliminate bogus voting (which happens on a very large scale, specially in the rural areas), but also speed up the voting process and reduce a lot of election expenses.

The voter won't have to carry any id card with him/her. Won't need to be inked. Won't require taking off burqa for identification.

What's your take on this ?
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

Now that 112 crore Indians have Aadhar card, and that Aadhar has proved to be a secure medium of transaction, it can be used for a variety of purposes.

For elections, of course, one does not expect it to be implemented all at once. Gradually, maybe over a period of 5 years or so. They could begin with smaller elections (municipal/panchayat/some by-elections etc) and then progress to state and general elections.

Aadhaar Data Base Fully Safe And Secure, Says UIDAI


... so I am sure that it can be used for voter identification and biometric verification.
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Now that 112 crore Indians have Aadhar card, and that Aadhar has proved to be a secure medium of transaction, it can be used for a variety of purposes.

For elections, of course, one does not expect it to be implemented all at once. Gradually, maybe over a period of 5 years or so. They could begin with smaller elections (municipal/panchayat/some by-elections etc) and then progress to state and general elections.

Aadhaar Data Base Fully Safe And Secure, Says UIDAI


... so I am sure that it can be used for voter identification and biometric verification.
Enough yaar,are we citizens or prisoners of India ? Modi is screwing us royally and please dont give him more ideas. The day is not far when we would be monitored like citizens of Singapore are by the Govt,BC ghante ki aazadi India mei !!!!!
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Enough yaar,are we citizens or prisoners of India ? Modi is screwing us royally and please dont give him more ideas. The day is not far when we would be monitored like citizens of Singapore are by the Govt,BC ghante ki aazadi India mei !!!!!
You got an aadhar, you are already a prisoner. You are an ordinary citizen, you are already screwed. The big brother is always watching you. So why not bring up this thing and try to keep the politicians on the straight and narrow ??

There is too much bogus voting, specially in the rural areas. There must be some way to prevent that. Also, maybe it will enable us to reduce the election expenses. Maybe it will help bring down the period of elections. Maybe voting through your mobile phone, who knows what...
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

so bogus voting was'nt limited to burka clad muslim women?

one chaman 'C' tonight on a reality show on zee news was claiming it.
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

The problem with such noble intentions is that they remain at that only in India. While the Aam public will be subjected to this, big guys will find a way out to cheat. Hence I would have reservations about it.

And to a large extent the beauty of desis life is the chaos. I like it. Don't want us to become a very orderly society that lacks color, character, some craziness
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

Why fix something that is not broken. Indian elections are among the fairest.
EVMs made the results faster. But this will slow down things.
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

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The problem with such noble intentions is that they remain at that only in India. While the Aam public will be subjected to this, big guys will find a way out to cheat. Hence I would have reservations about it.
You can say that of any change that happens in the society. It was said with the computerization, 30 years ago.. Then when we had mobile phones, those were referred to as an expensive toy, not serious.

Any new system will be bastardized by the big wigs.
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Why fix something that is not broken. Indian elections are among the fairest.
EVMs made the results faster. But this will slow down things.
No, aadhar will significantly speed up the process by eliminating two steps - identifying and then inking the voter.
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

We do need this biometric system.. mullas are voting in UP wearing burkha with no identity check
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

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We do need this biometric system.. mullas are voting in UP wearing burkha with no identity check
Sarvi,

this exactly is not the happenings

Muslim lady do not show their face for recognition, but the roll call on which photo is printed is not clear enough, you can't differentiate two sardars on those pics
every voter is carrying both his ID card and Roll call paper to vote. Forces are deployed to prevent any bogus voting under direct command of Election commission.

Leave muslim lady, if any sardar wants to vote twice even he can do so

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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

Anything that can gurantee quick fraud-free voting. A long election lets the parties, who get a sense that they might be losing, to come up with innovative methods of cheating in the subsequent phases.
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

The forces deployed basically look after maintaining peace only, not on electoral fraud, which is overseen by the representative of EC at the polling booth.

The various staff at the booth are borrowed from different departments - banks, teachers etc. and only interested in finishing the day without incident.

A recent report by a relative who was deputed on election duty in a polling booth in rural UP :

1) People wipe off the ink before it is dry. If the staff tries to stop them or hold the finger a while to dry it, they get dirty looks, maybe worse.

2) The Pradhan of the village runs the election booth. He can bring in 10 people at any time and say "Sir/Madam, allow these people first" and .. well, the staff better comply with it.

3) People repeat their visit to cast the vote for a sick/absent relative.

Biometrics will eliminate all these things. The security forces do not enforce genuine voting, only peacekeeping.
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

All parties have nominated observers in almost every polling station to check on and report irregularities by polling officials or others. I wonder how effectively it works though.
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All parties have nominated observers in almost every polling station to check on and report irregularities by polling officials or others. I wonder how effectively it works though.
Not present in all the booths. In many areas everyone knows to whom this area belongs, and the representatives of the other parties may be at the risk of their life or limb.

In UP, the dalits are at serious risk in the savarn areas/booths.
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Re: Electoral Reforms - Biometrics based voting to eliminate bogus voting

sent it as a suggestion to pgportal.gov.in
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