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Old April 22nd, 2011, 09:46 AM
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Toh bana lo na fir aisi party fir jaisi banana chaate ho .Dikkat kis baat ki hai ?

PaRhay likhay ho , desh videsh ghoom chukay ho , Nehru Gandhi family say zyada qualified ho .

Apne say hoshyaar dossre ko samajhtay nahin , saamne waale say baRa chutya apnay ko maantay nahin .

Sarv GunN sampanN insaan ho , Jyotish Shastra ka bhee bharpoor uchh gyaan rakhtay ho , fir kamee kis baat ki hai tumMay .

Kyu nahin ek waisi party bana paa rahe ho jaisii chaahte ho .Kyu nahin pehal kartay aur apne jaise logo ko JoRtay .Agar Ramdev jaisa anonymous 10 saal may anonymity say start karkay mob ko joR sakta hai apne saath , 1000 crore kama sakta hai , toh tum toh ussay dekhne may bhee acchay ho , lambay ho , jaanwaro jaisee daaRi mooch bhee nahin hai .Kaun rok raha hai tumhay .Mujhay naam batao uska .


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we run our household economy and wish that our political bosses to run the country. we are totally honest to our family but why aren't they doing there part.
basic idea of the constitution was representative democracy, me gripe to the MLAs MPs and they gripe in the parliament and do the needful, if every educated youth start forming his party,like krantikari party, jeet party, swami party, marvelous party etc. the basic idea of constitution get defeated. what is needed is effective representative system to work with complete efficiency not that every individual start making his own party. if that is the case better restructure the constitution where gram panchayat have more power than they have now and that system will effectively address grass root problem, isnt it? forming political party by every individual also mean how weak is our grievance addressing system

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I understand you and have never wished that people not post opposing views to my opinions. All I am saying is that I am all for proper debate on Congress versus all other parties.

BJP is still not a national level party. They need to get good experience at the state level. Only Modi and to some extent Yedyurappa have good experience and the ability to govern and bring about progress.

Modi knows about corruption but he focuses on getting more industries to invest in Gujarat. What does Sushma Swaraj do in Parliament? Just prances around mouthing pure Hindi about corruption! Fuck that, think of how you can make BJP win in more than just Gujarat and Karnataka!!
cha what is national party, according to definition, a party which has presence in more than four state or have more than 10% seat in loksabha is national party, BJP is single largest political party in opposition, other than your definition it is national party.

why are you forgetting, madhya pradesh and his allies in punjab, bihar and in other populous state, like congress in TN and may be in future in WB.

sushma swaraj speaks in hindi against corruption what is wrong in that, dharna, walkouts, boycotts are the constitutional method of opposition as enshrined in constitution. have you forgotten sushma's role in CVC appointment
i am not saying BJP is all good and congress is all bad, all i am saying give credit where it is due

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Very Good answer to all internet comentators
the internet generation whom you are condemning was behind revolution in the arab world and brought it into the cross road of transistion, youth is generally very idealistic, for few noble thoughts it can give life like Bhagat singh, it is only visionary like nehru and jinnah live long
the internet commentators on youtube comments befitting reply to every pakistani who talks rough, the internet generation is most bright because it is idealistic and the old folks are visionary, it is the generation in the middle which is always societically most unproductive, you can see history majority of thing is either done by youth or old man, middle aged were genreally most unproductive phase of life

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and yours?..... ohh must be modi
Tsktsk what thoughts Din know you were one of them .... Anyways, futures with you folks... And I wasn't realizing why you come on so strongly defending your darling Amul boy !!
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the internet generation whom you are condemning was behind revolution in the arab world and brought it into the cross road of transistion, youth is generally very idealistic, for few noble thoughts it can give life like Bhagat singh, it is only visionary like nehru and jinnah live long
the internet commentators on youtube comments befitting reply to every pakistani who talks rough, the internet generation is most bright because it is idealistic and the old folks are visionary, it is the generation in the middle which is always societically most unproductive, you can see history majority of thing is either done by youth or old man, middle aged were genreally most unproductive phase of life

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internet generation behind revolution of arab world?? that is wrong!! you must be ill informed.. however, this story also made up by internet comentators to increase their popularity within.
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cha what is national party, according to definition, a party which has presence in more than four state or have more than 10% seat in loksabha is national party, BJP is single largest political party in opposition, other than your definition it is national party.

why are you forgetting, madhya pradesh and his allies in punjab, bihar and in other populous state, like congress in TN and may be in future in WB.

sushma swaraj speaks in hindi against corruption what is wrong in that, dharna, walkouts, boycotts are the constitutional method of opposition as enshrined in constitution. have you forgotten sushma's role in CVC appointment
i am not saying BJP is all good and congress is all bad, all i am saying give credit where it is due

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When I say they are not a national level party, I mean that they are just confined to state level politics. People of Gujarat like what Narendra Modi has to offer and these are all Gujarat related issues that he is tackling. There is no national agenda here to bring in the entire nation.

What Yedyurappa is doing is all confined to Karnataka issues.

BJP needs a new national agenda, like they had many years ago during Ram Mandir. At that point, they just had a single Ram Mandir issue which united the entire nation.

Today we know that Ram Mandir or such issues will never unite the nation for one party. So what else does BJP have? Corruption issues? Are you serious? People dont give a rat's ass. I saw the street level feeling about corruption back home - 'Arey yeh sub bade logon aur neta logo ke jhol hain. Kuch nahi hone wala'.

Dont go by the few thousand folks who held candle light vigils for Anna Hazare's agitation. Those are not the majority of voters or not those who can cause any change in the voting pattern to cause things to change.

Come election time, we will see free TVs and booze being handed out, caste related reservation promises handed out, and the usual drama! And things will be back to the same with a few plus and minus number of seats for each party!

And even if Congress does not get the same number as last time at the Center, then there are enough other parties who will align with Congress to come back into power and enjoy the benefits that power brings.

Unless BJP is able to break through all of this and ensure a more than trivial upset for the Congress and its allies, you will see them in the opposition aisle, once more, speaking chaste Hindi and giving discourses on corruption or some such irrelevant issue.
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jeet bhau,
When I say they are not a national level party, I mean that they are just confined to state level politics. People of Gujarat like what Narendra Modi has to offer and these are all Gujarat related issues that he is tackling. There is no national agenda here to bring in the entire nation.

What Yedyurappa is doing is all confined to Karnataka issues.

BJP needs a new national agenda, like they had many years ago during Ram Mandir. At that point, they just had a single Ram Mandir issue which united the entire nation.

Today we know that Ram Mandir or such issues will never unite the nation for one party. So what else does BJP have? Corruption issues? Are you serious? People dont give a rat's ass. I saw the street level feeling about corruption back home - 'Arey yeh sub bade logon aur neta logo ke jhol hain. Kuch nahi hone wala'.

Dont go by the few thousand folks who held candle light vigils for Anna Hazare's agitation. Those are not the majority of voters or not those who can cause any change in the voting pattern to cause things to change.

Come election time, we will see free TVs and booze being handed out, caste related reservation promises handed out, and the usual drama! And things will be back to the same with a few plus and minus number of seats for each party!

And even if Congress does not get the same number as last time at the Center, then there are enough other parties who will align with Congress to come back into power and enjoy the benefits that power brings.

Unless BJP is able to break through all of this and ensure a more than trivial upset for the Congress and its allies, you will see them in the opposition aisle, once more, speaking chaste Hindi and giving discourses on corruption or some such irrelevant issue.
ur defn of a national party itself is flawed. does one need a single issue to unite the country in order to be a national party? in that case what is that single issue in case of congress

i will love you to see ur reaction when congress sits in the opposition aisle in near future. i cant predict when that will happen but i dont rule it out..unless rahulG shows karisma of being a strong leader, congress would not remain strong without sonia G at the helm. rahul G is not bad but does not give the ground level rusty feeling, he comes across as too sophisticated. Quite a few times he has fumbled while making speeches. desi politics is a new ball game for him which he is learning. how far he can go depends on how much and how fast he catches up. BJP is a national party and you never know when it will become the biggest part in LS.
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ur defn of a national party itself is flawed. does one need a single issue to unite the country in order to be a national party? in that case what is that single issue in case of congress

i will love you to see ur reaction when congress sits in the opposition aisle in near future. i cant predict when that will happen but i dont rule it out..unless rahulG shows karisma of being a strong leader, congress would not remain strong without sonia G at the helm. rahul G is not bad but does not give the ground level rusty feeling, he comes across as too sophisticated. Quite a few times he has fumbled while making speeches. desi politics is a new ball game for him which he is learning. how far he can go depends on how much and how fast he catches up. BJP is a national party and you never know when it will become the biggest part in LS.
Congress has a very simple agenda which the majority gets - special handouts to the millions of factions in each voter bank! It sounds strange but that is what Congress gives - freebies and a feeling of 'all is well'.
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Congress has a very simple agenda which the majority gets - special handouts to the millions of factions in each voter bank! It sounds strange but that is what Congress gives - freebies and a feeling of 'all is well'.
without denying you the credit of worshiping congress for what its worth, two points to ponder over.
about freebies, DMK has bypassed all other parties with free color CTVs for which, not just the poor, but the even super rich lined up.
about 'all is well', if congress was successful in giving that feeling all the time, the mandir movement would not have happened in the 1st place. yes all is well factor is present, but indian population is always on the lookout for an excuse to revolt too, even if its purely for showoff. so, future cant be predicted as confidently as you do
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BJP is still not a national level party. They need to get good experience at the state level. Only Modi and to some extent Yedyurappa have good experience and the ability to govern and bring about progress.

Modi knows about corruption but he focuses on getting more industries to invest in Gujarat. of how you can make BJP win in more than just Gujarat and Karnataka!!
cha pai in my opinion BJP in general better than Modi, Modi is whatsoever but psuedo... The BJP high commands knows this, but unfortunetly can not prevail upon some gifted crooks... BJP offcourse is a national party.. But confused within... Can do better if throw away the goons with communal cloak
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sure, and congress can do much better if it throws away the goons with corrupt cloak.. well, if any congressis are left after such goons are thrown off....
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sure, and congress can do much better if it throws away the goons with corrupt cloak.. well, if any congressis are left after such goons are thrown off....
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I am all for Congress because they are the only party which knows how to make India work.

If Congress party is introspecting and wishing for betterment then what is the harm?

Any good party does introspection and makes those changes for the overall good. Rahul has it in him to be the next PM and lead the nation.

So lets just say I am not a blind fanboy of Congress but a definite well wisher. So I will applaud all efforts by Congress for taking a second look and changing for the better.
you seem to be heading back to this opinion

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Our country wants great things, but wheI hope for the sake of the country that Modi's steps like demonetisation to curb black money and stop fake currency from Pakistan do work as intended and help in progress of the entire nation.

If this backfires and things dont work as expected - and anyway corruption was not a target as much as black money and fake currency - then the next PM will be Rahul Gandhi.
n someone is trying to do it, we dont want the hardships that come with it. So I have a feeling that come next elections, our 'sub chalta hai' attitude will elect Rahul Gandhi.
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Hopefully Rahul Gandhi will become prime ein 2019 and end modi's tyranny.
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Hopefully Rahul Gandhi will become prime ein 2019 and end modi's tyranny.
Dont know why but somewhat agree with you on Modi.
I think he is killing the democracy by being a control freak,MC tomorrow will give us timetable to eat drink and shit.
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Dont know why but somewhat agree with you on Modi.
I think he is killing the democracy by being a control freak,MC tomorrow will give us timetable to eat drink and shit.
As they say, Hobsons choice. Control Freak Modi or Clueless Rahul Gandhi.
And you never know you may end up with an arrogant Priyanka Vadra.

Having seen License Permit Raj era of Indira Gandhi where it used to take 10 years to get a telephone connection, there is still some method in Modi's madness.

His version of populism is the lowest cost one i have seen in a long time and he always manages to walk on the razor's edge and still make it.
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Dont know why but somewhat agree with you on Modi.
I think he is killing the democracy by being a control freak,MC tomorrow will give us timetable to eat drink and shit.
BJP seems to blow the opportunity whenever it comes to power.
Is it tyranny or bad planning or nonsense? There isn't much difference between them.
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