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Old January 18th, 2019, 05:20 AM
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Diversity - My Gawd!!!

Dear Friends,

I don't know where to post this thread, so I am posting in "Indian Politics". Admins may change it if required.

A young boy I know gave the CAT and got 99.7 percentile. He is in the top 250 out of lakhs of students. He did not get a call from some of the major IIMs because -
i) Brahmin
ii) Male
iii) Engineer

This is crazy man. I suddenly am feeling a bit depressed. My Gawd! Thank God my formal education got completed loooong before this craziness came to the fore.
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Old January 18th, 2019, 06:12 AM
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

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Dear Friends,

I don't know where to post this thread, so I am posting in "Indian Politics". Admins may change it if required.

A young boy I know gave the CAT and got 99.7 percentile. He is in the top 250 out of lakhs of students. He did not get a call from some of the major IIMs because -
i) Brahmin
ii) Male
iii) Engineer

This is crazy man. I suddenly am feeling a bit depressed. My Gawd! Thank God my formal education got completed loooong before this craziness came to the fore.
Did someone specifically/ officially say so that he didnt get selected because of these reasons? How can you be so sure of the reasons?
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Old January 18th, 2019, 06:24 AM
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

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Did someone specifically/ officially say so that he didnt get selected because of these reasons? How can you be so sure of the reasons?
Isn't the reason obvious.. one has to concentrate a bit to see things clearly.
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Old January 18th, 2019, 06:42 AM
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

Right now, I am feeling a bit down. This is the reason -

Since I was 11 or 12 years of age, I knew pretty much the sort of life I wanted. I wanted to have good amount of money, and wanted to keep on learning all sorts of things just for my own pleasure. I am thankful to God that I have been able to lead this life up to now.

But, this had implications. I never got very good marks in school. The reason was that our courses required ratta. I wanted to actually understand things. So I would spend a lot of time trying to understand, read, ask, experiment. As a result, my answers were never "standard answers" and I got lesser marks. But as we start growing, the "clarity of fundas" helped me a lot in latter education and I cracked the entrance exams. So I got a good education from good schools.

Now they have a system where they count scores from 10th standard onwards. If I was in such a system, I would never have been able to get into any nice college. A person like me would have got royally screwed. Just that thought gives me jitters. Thank God I escaped all that. But there are several people/students with the same attitude as me. Should they be denied education because of such a wonky system? Seriously!!!

I feel a bit depressed as I "see myself in that guy's shoes". What have we come to? I feel (a bit) angry and terrified.
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Old January 18th, 2019, 06:46 AM
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

^^ But that person can still get into Jamnalal or FMS, Delhi or MDI Gurgaon or TAPMI.. which are almost as good. May not get the IIMA or IIMB stamp.. but that's how the globe spins in today's time.

It is a brutal rat race.. but let not the tags define you.. there's more to life.. ofcourse you realize it having been through it.. hindsight is 20-20.
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

His father has got SHIT load of money - can even sponsor him to Harvard. No problem for dad. But the way this is going is crazeee.
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

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Dear Friends,

I don't know where to post this thread, so I am posting in "Indian Politics". Admins may change it if required.

A young boy I know gave the CAT and got 99.7 percentile. He is in the top 250 out of lakhs of students. He did not get a call from some of the major IIMs because -
i) Brahmin
ii) Male
iii) Engineer

This is crazy man. I suddenly am feeling a bit depressed. My Gawd! Thank God my formal education got completed loooong before this craziness came to the fore.
IIMs are anti engineer as well?
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Old January 18th, 2019, 09:07 AM
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

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His father has got SHIT load of money - can even sponsor him to Harvard. No problem for dad. But the way this is going is crazeee.
That goes with what you were saying in Babu’s thread. His forefathers were not oppressed. Hence he can go to Harvard. While historically oppressed go to IIMs. You want to replace SC/STs with Muslims and Christisns on that list.
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

In one thread Shringarkar pai says reservations for oppressed people... and in this thread he says reservations are making him depressed. Kuch maajla samjha nahi For reservations or against

Bottom line is... someone has to cry. Someone will cry.
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

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His father has got SHIT load of money - can even sponsor him to Harvard. No problem for dad. But the way this is going is crazeee.
Phir kya piraablem hai? His father wants govt to atone for extra taxes they leeched off of him? He should do that family business mgmt quota thingy.
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His father has got SHIT load of money - can even sponsor him to Harvard. No problem for dad. But the way this is going is crazeee.


What is the problem here?
If his dad's got SHIT load of money, then send him to Harvard or Yale.
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

Shringarey,

Please bear in mind that whatever said and done, India has a mind-set of reservations and quotas and freebies. Those who are not in reserved category are dying to get into it. The only people who will never get reservations are the Brahmins.

So don't be surprised at what you are witnessing. Its the mindset of people since many many decades, which has further been enabled and entrenched by politicians for creation of vote banks.
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

There is an example in the building in Mumbai.

They are from reserved category. Father was in a government bank, got promotions really quick as there is a priority queue for reserved candidates.

Mother was working for the national air carrier. She too retired with a high rank thanks to the promotion queue having different priority than for open category candidates.

Their only son became a pilot. The family was all well set as both parents had very good jobs and their standard of living was quite good. But they decided to use their reservation status for their son. In fact their statement was that its their right and they will use it. Their son did not need this but well he used it.

Today he is a pilot with the national carrier and has a good life. Good for him. Will he use his reservation status for his offspring? I am sure he will.

So what do you say to this Shringarey? People who have been completely uplifted and established due to reservations using it for their next generation and the one after that.

In India, if you are able to do something on your own merit, then do not expect anything else from the government or colleges etc. Get your degree and get out of India. If you are from a rich business family then there is no better country than India to further your business and prosperity.

If you are middle class, either stay back and live a mediocre life. Else get out and have at least a good quality of life even if you end up as middle class abroad.
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Re: Diversity - My Gawd!!!

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Dear Friends,

I don't know where to post this thread, so I am posting in "Indian Politics". Admins may change it if required.

A young boy I know gave the CAT and got 99.7 percentile. He is in the top 250 out of lakhs of students. He did not get a call from some of the major IIMs because -
i) Brahmin
ii) Male
iii) Engineer

This is crazy man. I suddenly am feeling a bit depressed. My Gawd! Thank God my formal education got completed loooong before this craziness came to the fore.
Shring, I dont know when did you pass out of education system (Graduation). I have a feeling we did passed out within 5 years of each other, I graduated around very end of last century. It was a similar situation even then. I cant tell you names of people who missed out off the top of my head, but I know these things happened even then and population has only increased since then....
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There is an example in the building in Mumbai.

They are from reserved category. Father was in a government bank, got promotions really quick as there is a priority queue for reserved candidates.
Selfishly, I think if reservations are going to stay, then people in reserved category should only go through reserved category... if the go through open, then we end up with a co-hort where only reserved categories get the opportunities and non-reserved get nothing or very less... so we end up oppressing the non-reserveds now...
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