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The most right wing scroll.in could go is to support Congress.
I avoid political comments on FB, but i keep a track of who is saying what. One of my 'rationalist' friends keeps posting from scroll.in.

The guy who wrote this does not even remotely sound Bong. Probably he could also peep not too far back and look at the million Bengalis (mostly peaceful) that Pak army slaughtered in 71. (after 26 years of 'atrocities on Kashmiris', our security forces have not even reached 10% of this number)
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Even all controversy..Bajirao Mastani is released, and It is really aweosme film. Forget about all political views and comments as a viewers I must say it is a movie of the year
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blog points out the historical inaccuracies of the movie . totally unnecessary for movie is not touted to be historically accurate anyway . seems to be veiled attack on movie by the secular mafia---


http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes...great-maratha/
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Verdict---Good .
Three and a half stars .
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Watched the movie and agree with your review
Watched the movie and agree with your review... but would bump the rating down to three stars.

The movie is well-made and acted... but it is a drama, and that too a family drama. Who wants to see a family drama in the age of action movies like Mad Max and Bahubali

Another thing of note in the movie is, all dialogues are delivered at a clip-fast pace... as if the actors wanted to finish the movie as quickly as possible and be done with it. Some say that is how Maharashtrians speak... but I do not agree, they do have a lazy sing-song way of speaking that would have seemed pretty authentic. The passion for drama and dialogue-delivery seemed to be missing in the movie... imho.

As for the story, it seemed like the villain of the piece, Mastani, was hell-bent on destroying the Maratha kingdom... all single-handedly and without lifting a weapon. She does not even take help from her father, who is the famous emperor of Bundelkhand. She comes across some formidable opponents, like the widowed mother and street-smart younger brother of the Peshwa. The high-priest of the region lets loose his entire team of expert sword-fighters but she kills them all.

There is also some extent of defense from the cute wife and wise minister of the Peshwa... but they all fail miserably because the Peshwa himself falls for the lovely but vile temptress and fights for her rights. She almost succeeds too but is fended off at the last minute by the alert prince of kingdom and gets caught and imprisoned. What happens next... go and watch the movie... on the big screen
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tum log sab mil ke jagmohan ko bhaga diye.. nahi to main bhi movie dekh sakta torrents pe.

I'm kind of reluctant to watch the movie, few friends who have similar taste as me said accha bhala maratha warrior ko dancer bana daala.
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tum log sab mil ke jagmohan ko bhaga diye.. nahi to main bhi movie dekh sakta torrents pe.

I'm kind of reluctant to watch the movie, few friends who have similar taste as me said accha bhala maratha warrior ko dancer bana daala.
This movie, if you really really really want to see, should be seen on the big screen. On a TV this will be like watching any period docu-drama. Will be way boring and you will be forced to give it 1 out of 5... which will be unfair.

As the title of the movie suggests, it entirely focuses on the tragi-comic-love affair between the two protagonists. Nothing much else. You have been warned. Inspite of this, if you go and watch the movie and say you were disappointed that there was nothing much else... then you yourself will be the one to be entirely blamed.
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tum log sab mil ke jagmohan ko bhaga diye.. nahi to main bhi movie dekh sakta torrents pe.

I'm kind of reluctant to watch the movie, few friends who have similar taste as me said accha bhala maratha warrior ko dancer bana daala.
Lol. It is there on his favorite site link

Anyways 3 reasons for me not watching it -
3. it is a hit
2. It is directed by Sanjay Leela Bhansali
1. Peacepai likes it.
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Re: Bajirao mastani---Sanjay Leela bhansali's ambitious venture

ironically , only mastani's descendants have bajirao's genes today , because the peshwa's hindu descendants are descendants of an adopted son of bajirao's son raghunathrao---

http://www.punemirror.in/pune/cover-...w/48938887.cms
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Seeing the movie again---

Seeing Bajirao Mastani again , I was struck by the stupidity of the Pune brahmins and Bajirao's mother and brother and elder son . Why could they not let Bajirao have what he wanted---company of Mastani ?? It was to Bajirao that they all owed their position . If he was not so gallant and brave the maratha empire would not have been so great . It was he who had transformed the kingdom established by Shivaji into an empire . It was due to his military genius that they all ( Pune brahmins ) were enjoying the perks they did---for it was he who had effectively transferred the power that the maratha caste enjoyed in the kingdom ( Shivaji was maratha by caste ) to the brahmins and made the brahmins supreme . Why could they not set aside their narrow religious beliefs to let the great peshwa enjoy the love of Mastani ?? If it is true that Bajirao died because he was pining for Mastani , then they were shooting the maratha empire in the foot . Because after Bajirao's death his son Nanasaheb took some time to establish himself as Peshwa . In the meantime many precious years were lost---years that could have been spent in expanding the empire . And Nanasaheb could not prove to be as great as Bajirao . Coould the Pune brahmins not put their narrow religious beliefs aside for the sake of the empire ??

But Bajirao's infatuation with Mastani to the opposition of everyone also proves why he is deservedly considered a lesser political personality than Shivaji . Though Shivaji was kind to his wives he would have never gone against the clergy and society for a woman if it harmed politics of the kingdom . For him expansion of his kingdom was above all else . Though he was not brahmin he used to go to considerable lengths to keep the brahmins in good humour . He was never so much in love with a woman that he would pine for her to the cost of the kingdom's politics . That is why he was able to establish a kingdom in the face of such powerful opposition from the mughals , the sultan of bijapur , the siddi of janjira , the portuguese and the english . Bajirao actually died pining for a woman !! All his greatness lost for a woman !! Then he was not as great as Shivaji !!
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But what use is greatness when the treasury is empty All my knowledge on this topic is based on the movie... so please treat it for what it is. What is the use of prestige if stomachs are empty The treasury is empty... so how can they feed 2 or more mouths? And where will they get cows and goats (expensive stuff) to feed those extra mouths? You also have to note, religion is supreme (especially for priests and religious old widows and accountants). How can they take to someone from a vile, impure religion Especially when Bajirao wanted to bring the vamp into their own house...
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Seeing Bajirao Mastani again , I was struck by the stupidity of the Pune brahmins and Bajirao's mother and brother and elder son . Why could they not let Bajirao have what he wanted---company of Mastani ?? It was to Bajirao that they all owed their position . If he was not so gallant and brave the maratha empire would not have been so great . It was he who had transformed the kingdom established by Shivaji into an empire . It was due to his military genius that they all ( Pune brahmins ) were enjoying the perks they did---for it was he who had effectively transferred the power that the maratha caste enjoyed in the kingdom ( Shivaji was maratha by caste ) to the brahmins and made the brahmins supreme . Why could they not set aside their narrow religious beliefs to let the great peshwa enjoy the love of Mastani ?? If it is true that Bajirao died because he was pining for Mastani , then they were shooting the maratha empire in the foot . Because after Bajirao's death his son Nanasaheb took some time to establish himself as Peshwa . In the meantime many precious years were lost---years that could have been spent in expanding the empire . And Nanasaheb could not prove to be as great as Bajirao . Coould the Pune brahmins not put their narrow religious beliefs aside for the sake of the empire ??

But Bajirao's infatuation with Mastani to the opposition of everyone also proves why he is deservedly considered a lesser political personality than Shivaji . Though Shivaji was kind to his wives he would have never gone against the clergy and society for a woman if it harmed politics of the kingdom . For him expansion of his kingdom was above all else . Though he was not brahmin he used to go to considerable lengths to keep the brahmins in good humour . He was never so much in love with a woman that he would pine for her to the cost of the kingdom's politics . That is why he was able to establish a kingdom in the face of such powerful opposition from the mughals , the sultan of bijapur , the siddi of janjira , the portuguese and the english . Bajirao actually died pining for a woman !! All his greatness lost for a woman !! Then he was not as great as Shivaji !!
Warrior skills aside, a married man who falls for another woman when his wife is "good" in all ways, will lose respect.
ADD: Of course, the above rule does not apply to cults where women are considered "trophies" or "war booties"
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What good was all the weath and women? Died of heat stroke at 39 years of age.
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on other websites where i wrote the post many people are raising doubts about whether bajirao really died pining for mastani . actually he may have died due to heat stroke . it is the movie which shows him dying pining for mastani but movies always exaggerate romance dont they....so the premise of my whole post ( my second post that is , not my review ) may be false . maybe it was just bad luck that he died so early.
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on other websites where i wrote the post many people are raising doubts about whether bajirao really died pining for mastani . actually he may have died due to heat stroke . it is the movie which shows him dying pining for mastani but movies always exaggerate romance dont they....so the premise of my whole post ( my second post that is , not my review ) may be false . maybe it was just bad luck that he died so early.
warriors have lower life expectancy. Even the great Shivaji lived to be only about 50 years at death. What a life in 50 years, similar with Bajirao, achieved so much in very few years.

Its very sad that this history is never taught in our schools, except Shivaji I don't recall reading much about Maratha history. Mughal history though is all over the textbooks. You know where I am going with this. So now when Right wing govt introduces this in textbooks, sobs will return awards and say RSS ruling India with BJP as a proxy front. Here's one Marxist twister of history .. link
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After 10 days of their release, Bajirao has overtaken Dilwale in box office collections. This inspite-of the latter running in 600 more screens. Good to see a good movie rake in more moolah than Rohit Shetty's monotonous movies.
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