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I would like to start a separate thread for Devadhi-dev Mahadev Bholenath Shiv Shankar.

Shiv is the supreme god. He has so many beautiful names. Even the names have stories behind them.

Thread to focus on few points:
  • Why is Rudr the supreme?
  • What are his various beautiful names and stories behind him?
  • Any other interesting aspects of his personality and interesting facts about him
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Please do not look up "names of Shiva" from the internet and paste that information here. Either post queries here itself or post your own knowledge in your own words.




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Re: Mahadev Shiv - the Supreme, the Ultimate

Why is Girijapati considered the Supreme?

He sits atop Kailash parvat. Vishnu's abode is deep in the oceans. Bramha comforts himself in Swarglok.

The top of kailash parvat is the meeting point of this world and the other world(s).

All yogis, gods, special ones etc. are either here or there. They may be capable of transitioning between mutiple dimensions/frames/worlds. But at any single given point of time, they are in one dimension/frame/world. Lets just say, their constant or primary existence is in one frame/dimension/world.

Bholey is such a big yogi that he is actually meditating in peace whilst being in two (multiple) worlds simultaneously. He is the biggest yogi there ever was and will be.

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Re: Mahadev Shiv - the Supreme, the Ultimate

He is Tri Netra - the one with three eyes. His third eye is 'generally' closed. We all know what happens when he opens his third eye.

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Re: Mahadev Shiv - the Supreme, the Ultimate

Neelkantheshwar had his throat turned blue because he drank Halaahal (the Vish or venom which emanated from samudra-manthan).

Mata Parvati rushed and held his throat to prevent the venom from being swallowed by him. He thus became Neelkanth.

The 'Destructor' actually saved the creation by consuming the most poisonous venom.

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Re: Mahadev Shiv - the Supreme, the Ultimate

But if he is neelkanth .. blue neck .. why is he blue all over? This question has always bugged me. If he turned blue all over, then the poison reached every part of his body .. In which case his name should be neeltan and he should be dead.

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But if he is neelkanth .. blue neck .. why is he blue all over? This question has always bugged me. If he turned blue all over, then the poison reached every part of his body .. In which case his name should be neeltan and he should be dead.


he is believed to be dark skinned and since the halahal was upto his neck and became blue so the named Neelkanth and since no "GOD" can be black so it was better for the painters to potray him blue.

and remember he is the destroyer and what color is BSOD.
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he is believed to be dark skinned and since the halahal was upto his neck and became blue so the named Neelkanth and since no "GOD" can be black so it was better for the painters to potray him blue.

and remember he is the destroyer and what color is BSOD.
Then why not show the neck as bluer that the rest of the baady? Yeh saala color racism puraane zamaane se chal raha hai. If he is dark, show him as dark brown. Why BLUE???? Looks like a smerf now.
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How high and would you happen to know location? Looks like concrete and paint or is it marble? Doesn't look like carved out of rock.

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Re: Mahadev Shiv - the Supreme, the Ultimate

I would probably say that this is from Mordeshwar in Karnataka . But I may be wrong . When I went the place was still under construction . Only the Shiv idol was done .
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I would probably say that this is from Mordeshwar in Karnataka . But I may be wrong . When I went the place was still under construction . Only the Shiv idol was done .
Thanks. Water sprout and bamboo leaves on top left are the cause of confusion as to the height. Bamboo doesn't grow higher than 20 feet the maximum? Will need to Google. There is one of Lord Ganesha in Pune ... I haven't been near enough, from highway it looks like hundred meters high. We never can tell future under Mataji, Betaji, and Kaangress ... few hundred years from now, hopefully, these will be the places of religious significance for followers of our religion.
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Then why not show the neck as bluer that the rest of the baady? Yeh saala color racism puraane zamaane se chal raha hai. If he is dark, show him as dark brown. Why BLUE???? Looks like a smerf now.
Not every photographic depiction of him will convey the story of behind the kanth being neel. That is just one depiction of him. Different body parts may may be having other colors and shades b4 and after the Halaahal episode. There is some story behind what he did to relieve himself of the immense heat that Halaahal generated in his body.
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Another point (to which, I am sure, maharshi dhurandhar will be able to present a counter argument) is that, almost each yogi, devta, chosen-one has, at one time or the other, either in his original form or in one of his avatars or roops, has 'sinned' for pleasure (women), directly or indirectly, openly or discreetly.

Kailashpati has no debatable stories about his character. Mata Parvati fell in love with him and married him against wishes of her family.

Inspite of being the biggest yogi, he is a married family-man which is contrary to what a yogi does. Once again, this means that he lives in two worlds (yogi & bhogi) but is perfect and peaceful in both.

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The Trilok shakes when Bholey presses the nail of his hallux (big toe) against the ground.

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in hindu tradition, sex is never considered sinful if it is consensual, secondly yogi doesn't mean one can't marry. celibacy is only in Abrahmic religion in pagan religion like Hinduism, celibacy is part of life for first few years, you will not be relieved of pitra rin, if you dont give birth to your child unless your own father free you from this.

All rishis and mahrishis were married and had children, Rishi vashistha had 100 sons, Vishwamitra was married to Menaka, Ravan was son of rishi vishrwa, etc

Sex is the celebrated thing in Hinduism and it wasn't ever condemned unless case like disguised Indra and Mata Ahilya comes to scene

Historically, Bhagwan Pahsupati, is a Harrapan deity, the trilogy is nowhere mentioned in Vedas, his personality along with Mata ganga appears in post vedic literature. probably to assimilate local Harrpan culture shiva was adopted and was made the supreme deity to increase the influence of hinduism, actually according to Hindu philosphy, anything can be worshiped

He has 1000 names as sung in Shiv Shahastranaam, ask it to any Iyer


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in hindu tradition, sex is never considered sinful if it is consensual, secondly yogi doesn't mean one can't marry. celibacy is only in Abrahmic religion in pagan religion like Hinduism, celibacy is part of life for first few years, you will not be relieved of pitra rin, if you dont give birth to your child unless your own father free you from this.

All rishis and mahrishis were married and had children, Rishi vashistha had 100 sons, Vishwamitra was married to Menaka, Ravan was son of rishi vishrwa, etc

Sex is the celebrated thing in Hinduism and it wasn't ever condemned unless case like disguised Indra and Mata Ahilya comes to scene

Historically, Bhagwan Pahsupati, is a Harrapan deity, the trilogy is nowhere mentioned in Vedas, his personality along with Mata ganga appears in post vedic literature. probably to assimilate local Harrpan culture shiva was adopted and was made the supreme deity to increase the influence of hinduism, actually according to Hindu philosphy, anything can be worshiped

He has 1000 names as sung in Shiv Shahastranaam, ask it to any Iyer


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consensual or post-marital or moral sex is core part of indian and hindu traditions. so, sex is not bad at all.

but, for an ordinary individual, its not easy to fulfill his/her desire for god and his desire for sinful pleasures simultaneously completely. one can be 'master of one trade' at a time.

almost every religion demands to leave materialism before even starting the quest of god [except one afaik]. even in the ashram tradition of hinduism, vanaprashta or sanayas begins after the end of grihasta-ashram. so, its one at a time.

only a supreme yogi like Bholey can be bilocational (multilocational) and complete in both(all) places. He can even choose to be 'how much complete or incomplete' to be.
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