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View Poll Results: Will you support Raj if he opposes reservations?
Yes, he's our only hope 17 89.47%
No, We will support the social justice movement 2 10.53%
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Old January 11th, 2006, 09:16 PM
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Question Will you Vote for Raj Thackeray if he opposes reservations

Today there is another possibility that the hate that shiv sena was propogating under bal thackraey will get additional boost of youthful energy under Raj Thakeraey. He's known to be very agressive and is only 36 years old.there seems to be a big support for him from unemployed youth of unreserved category. he is a carbon copy of his uncle only difference is that people say that he's a lot shrewder than his uncle. They say he has good organisational capabilites and has excellent relations with many industrialists.

i will like to ask my reservation opposing friends here is they will support this guy who is anti dalit and pro marathi if he fights the poor opporessed dalits in their struggle to get social justice even in pvt sectior?

he will be only peroson away from all other political parties who will oppose social justice platform.
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Old January 11th, 2006, 09:35 PM
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Are you a sparrows offspring? AAaa chiv chiv ?

Yes, if Raj goes out all guns blaring I will be the first person to support him. His body language his agressive posturing is something that attracts people like myself. You freakin Dalit thugs have decided to execute a major dacoity on a sector that we educated hardworking people of the non reserved category have built with our blood sweat and tears. The private sector is our only hope and if Raj is out to defend it than we have no other option but to close ranks behind him.

Today with the BJP becoming another non agressive pseudo Gandhian political non performer we need young guys like Raj who can at least oppose the relentless opposition to our existance under the banner of social justice. Raj as you cleavery pointed out is not just poro Marathi but is also pro Hindutva.

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I will support ANY politician who will raise his voice and object to indiscrimante reservations in the name of caste and religion!

Reservations on basis of economic/financial conditions is always welcome.
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Old January 12th, 2006, 12:46 AM
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cruelty to dalits is the motto of all uopper castes. le me see how people are voting for this poll.
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Old January 12th, 2006, 03:35 AM
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Re: Will you Vote for Raj Thackeraey if he opposes reservations

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cruelty to dalits is the motto of all uopper castes. le me see how people are voting for this poll.
Strategically I see Raj Thackeray well positioned if he openly opposes reservations esp. in private sector. Since all the political parties are either supporters or are afraid of taking on this plank, this will polarize the anti-reservation / non-reserved category / employees working in pvt. sector to vote for him. Since the pro reservation mandate is divided among several political parties, Raj will stand a good chance if he vociferously opposes / popularizes his anti-reservation slogan.

But this isn't a easy/cake walk thing to do. It will take lot of effort to popularize / and make people esp. upper classes to be made aware of his intentions in this regard. And moreover he should be able to divide the political mandate strongly on this no-reservation in pvt. sector agenda. And toughest of all, to make this issue the core issue of next elections.

If he manages to do these things by shrewd strategy then he will have a good chances imo. One thing he should keep in mind is that he should be very clear in what he is opposing, that is - reservation in pvt. sector. He should make it clear that he is not against any class or category - dalits etc and make sure no one abuses / spreads hate speech on dalits as this would only confuse the issue.
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Re: Will you Vote for Raj Thackeray if he opposes reservations

your biased opinion is seen when none of you wish our Muslim brothers on the festival of sacrifice Bakr-Eid.
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Re: Will you Vote for Raj Thackeray if he opposes reservations

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Old January 12th, 2006, 06:28 AM
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terminator your website is losing Muslims. Even some time ago Dalits have also gone. Adice for you will be to wish everyone on Bakr eid. Dont show your caste bias here.
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Re: Will you Vote for Raj Thackeraey if he opposes reservations

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cruelty to dalits is the motto of all uopper castes. le me see how people are voting for this poll.
Man,you are making opinions out of nowhere...Just because someone is opposite the idea of reservation does not mean that he hates dalits.....The concept of caste based reservation is totally flawed.Because of this,upper caste people have to live stiffer life without none of their fault.
At the same time,economic reservation is justified and one can understand its basis.
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Re: Will you Vote for Raj Thackeray if he opposes reservations

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Today there is another possibility that the hate that shiv sena was propogating under bal thackraey will get additional boost of youthful energy under Raj Thakeraey. He's known to be very agressive and is only 36 years old.there seems to be a big support for him from unemployed youth of unreserved category. he is a carbon copy of his uncle only difference is that people say that he's a lot shrewder than his uncle. They say he has good organisational capabilites and has excellent relations with many industrialists.

i will like to ask my reservation opposing friends here is they will support this guy who is anti dalit and pro marathi if he fights the poor opporessed dalits in their struggle to get social justice even in pvt sectior?

he will be only peroson away from all other political parties who will oppose social justice platform.
I will surely support him but he is not the only hope we would have, opposed to what you put in the option.

B_chive, I agree poor need help and support from gov. But what makes you think dalits are only ones who fall under this group of "needy" people?! Poor people exist in all casts and religion. They too deserve their fare share of help from gov, don't they?

I say, if at all we want to have reservation have it economic status based but of diff kind. Entry to graduation colleges and professional education courses should STILL be completely based on merits. Ones who need help should be waived off some % of fees and should be given interest free student loans (through special gov programs or private banks) to cover for rest of the fees and other education expenses.

And no reservation of any kind for jobs in gov or private sector what-so-ever. I mean why do you need it now. You were favored so that you can study and make yourself capable. So now compete in open for jobs just like others. And don't forget that interest free loan you took while in college. Time to repay that also now that you are earning. And may be if possible contribute/donate to that special gov program so that loan money for future needy students can be made available.

But this all can happen only if dalits and politicians realize dalits are not the only ones who need help and stop being abusive and start being responsible.

Other eChans welcome to comment.
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Re: Will you Vote for Raj Thackeray if he opposes reservations

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terminator your website is losing Muslims. Even some time ago Dalits have also gone. Adice for you will be to wish everyone on Bakr eid. Dont show your caste bias here.
Nobody is kicking them out.
Everybody expresses their "own" opinions here.
Its "loud and proud desi opinion".

If it becomes too loud to be against their opinions, the leave. None is forced to.
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Nobody is kicking them out.
Everybody expresses their "own" opinions here.
Its "loud and proud desi opinion".

If it becomes too loud to be against their opinions, the leave. None is forced to.
it is because of casteist and religional fanatics that Dalits have also left. If Jai Bhim and Salaam come together remember we can wipe out Namaste.

Dalit Muslim mahasangh zindabad!
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it is because of casteist and religional fanatics that Dalits have also left. If Jai Bhim and Salaam come together remember we can wipe out Namaste.

Dalit Muslim mahasangh zindabad!


Where do we get such idiots from? And after Namaste is wiped out, then what? You think Salaam will come and wipe your ar*e for you? Grow up... no wonder you could not do much with your life...
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it is because of casteist and religional fanatics that Dalits have also left. If Jai Bhim and Salaam come together remember we can wipe out Namaste.

Dalit Muslim mahasangh zindabad!
Man,forget abt who has left and who has not...justify caste based reservation if you can.
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Man,forget abt who has left and who has not...justify caste based reservation if you can.
The prime communal man viking here are said that you built pvt sector by working hard. but same pvt sector wallas were demanding for level playing field and not allowing foreign competion. Now you are allowing beacuse you have reached to level of competion. Same way right now dalits need level playing filed. Once we reach to same situation financially and educationally we ourself will deny caste reservation but till then they are necessary.
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