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Myanmar - Oppressive or doing whats right?

What do people think about what is happening in Myanmar.

In the Rakhine state or Myanmar, Rohingyas, immgrants/refugees from elsewhere some of whom have been there for a few generations now (does that make them immigrants anymore?) are fleeing Myanmar and entering Bangladesh. They say it is because of cleansing being done by Myanmar.

Myanmar has given reasons as terrorism cleanup and that these people are not Myanmar citizens - indeed they have been given id cards rather than passports. There has also been simmering issues some Rohingyas have with buddhist population - who think they are going to end up reduced to a minority.

The UN and western world has criticised Myanmar and specifically Aung San Suu Kyi with strong worded articles doubting her legacy.

on the other hand, there are views about how much power still rests with the Military in Myanmar.

Coincidentally this was the time of Mr Modi's trip to Myanmar and the Rohingyas have been threatened deportation from India too.

Quite a few angles to this saga.... Wonder what happens next..
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Old September 14th, 2017, 10:18 AM
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Re: Myanmar - Oppressive or doing whats right?

We have had this discussions before... but echarcha.com is not on the global scene for global leaders to take note.

The Rohingyas are nothing but victims here... not of terrorism or genocide from Myanmar but terrorism and violence from their own peaceful religion. What is required is education and a global acceptance of a ban on the religion. This has been done successfully with other subjects. Yes, there is an occasionally flare but nazism and mostly communism have been under control for quite some time. Then why not another neo-nazistic concept like the religion of peace Why is the international court of justice not taking an interest into this and proclaiming an universal law that is accepted unilaterally across the world
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Re: Myanmar - Oppressive or doing whats right?

what, Rohingya discussion? hmmmmmm I must have missed the thread then.

for Nazism to be banished, the world had to go through a war.
the same war contributed to break up of USSR which resulted in communism losing steam.

so.... for the problem with current ideology - we have had wars, Afghanistan, Syria, 'war' against daesh.... has not been enough to break it...

ICJ - what role did they play before? not many teeth to this organisation.


back to Myanmar though.... Media and people have taken care of not calling them muslims.... the problem does seem to be with people from that community.

whats the resolution to the situation then.... its unfair to expect people living at a place over generations to be thrown elsewhere and its unfair for rohingyas to cause trouble to others. I suppose it is cause and effect in some way.
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We have had this discussions before... but echarcha.com is not on the global scene for global leaders to take note.

The Rohingyas are nothing but victims here... not of terrorism or genocide from Myanmar but terrorism and violence from their own peaceful religion. What is required is education and a global acceptance of a ban on the religion. This has been done successfully with other subjects. Yes, there is an occasionally flare but nazism and mostly communism have been under control for quite some time. Then why not another neo-nazistic concept like the religion of peace Why is the international court of justice not taking an interest into this and proclaiming an universal law that is accepted unilaterally across the world
Do you mean 'Oppressive but doing what is right'.
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Do you mean 'Oppressive but doing what is right'.
It is the same thing that is happening everywhere for decades... nay, centuries. And it will keep happening in the future too... and our grand-grand-grand-...-children will be facing it too... if we do not make a decision now. Not saying that if this is taken care of then there will be no other problems. There will always be problems... this is just one of them to take care of.

In fact, remember having the same discussion with Cooldoodle pai... same topic but different country. It was about the general of Serbia and/or Kosovo, who was faced with a similar situation and had taken a similar stand (similar to Aung Sui or whatever her name is, of Myanmar). Back then this general was the hero turned villain. Now it is the turn of this lady. So, people never change
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We have had this discussions before... but echarcha.com is not on the global scene for global leaders to take note.

The Rohingyas are nothing but victims here... not of terrorism or genocide from Myanmar but terrorism and violence from their own peaceful religion. What is required is education and a global acceptance of a ban on the religion. This has been done successfully with other subjects. Yes, there is an occasionally flare but nazism and mostly communism have been under control for quite some time. Then why not another neo-nazistic concept like the religion of peace Why is the international court of justice not taking an interest into this and proclaiming an universal law that is accepted unilaterally across the world
The problem is with the mentality of people of "religion of peace". For them what ever is theirs is theirs, but what every is yours is up for discussion.

Since late 1940's , pakis have been arming and providing support to rohingyas to fight against Burma and make rakhine state(the western state of burma where rohingyas live) a part of east pakistan. As a part of that they killed plundered non-muslims. Till 1970 this went on and they gave up for some time, but in 80's with the influx of oil money from middle east, this started once again.

There are news that rohingyas burnt their own villages to put the blame on Burma army.

Those who could not serve the country they were born in, how are they going to be of any use to India? They should be kicked out along with their beggar deshi brother's.
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Re: Myanmar - Oppressive or doing whats right?

While retiring the Vice-President Ansari said that India is not safe for Muslims, then why they want Rohingya Muslims to come to unsafe country? To consolidate muslims power and then they won't be unsafe?
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Send the Rohingyas to UK... They dont seem to have enough 'fun' in subway trains



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bhau raste mein India padta hai na. inko Bangladesh, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia mein nahi rahna hai. loads of them do want to go to UK.
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Re: Myanmar - Oppressive or doing whats right?

Looks like it is the same problem as Kashmir. Only, there is no article 370 and Burmese army is tougher on peaceful people than Indian Army.
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Re: Myanmar - Oppressive or doing whats right?

What's happening is human rights violation, ethnic cleansing and genocide by Myanmar army and shameless defense of this by Suu Kyi. Our own country stand on this been shameful, Rohingyas are most oppressed ethnic group in world right now and we want to throw them back to place where Army is committed to kill them. It's violation of everything India stood for, From culture to constitution to political stand on such issues. If we talk about it, we are obliged to provide shelter to 'Sharnagat' and here we are not just not providing them shelter But actually throwing them back to their tormentors, It's against Indian values and Hindu religion itself, constitutionally we can't send them back to place where their life is endangered and India's political stand has always had a moral component is international affairs, Which somehow we are losing as we are increasing our relations with most evil countries in the world i.e. Israel and Now Myanmar.

Probably government and it's policy makers should consult people who has Good knowledge of Hindu religion and values (not the neo nazi brigade running amok, But someone with deep understanding) and see for themselves what a great sin they are committing by returning 'Sharnagat' to their tormentors. I am not saying that Grand citizenship to them all, But provide them with humanitarian relief and shelter till this heat die down and REST OF THE WORLD (yeah, everyone is with Rohingyas except India and China) force Myanmar to follow international law.
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^^^^^

No need to preach Hinduism.

Does Islam condone mass killing of Hindus?

As long as some ethnic group tries to dominate a multiethnic society, this will happen. And by all evidence on display around the world we know who are the ones that are unwilling to adjust and live with others.
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