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Death Of Sambhaji

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In early 1689, Sambhaji called his commanders for a strategic meeting at Sangameshwar in Konkan. In a meticulously planned operation, Ganoji Shirke (brother of Sambhaji’s wife Yesubai) and Aurangzeb's commander, Mukarrab Khan attacked Sangameshwar when Sambhaji was about to leave the town. A small ambush followed and Sambhaji was captured by Mughal troops on 1 Feb, 1689. He and his advisor, Kavi Kalash were taken to Bahadurgad. Aurangzeb humiliated them by parading them wearing clown's clothes. Later, Sambhaji and Kavi Kalash were tied upside down to camels with Mughal soldiers throwing stones, mud, and cow dung at them.

When they were brought face to face with Aurangzeb, the latter offered to let Sambhaji live if he surrendered all the Maratha forts, turned over all his hidden treasures and disclosed the names of all the Mughal officers who had helped him. Sambhaji refused, and instead sang the praises of Mahadev (Lord Shiva). Aurangzeb ordered him and Kavi Kalash to be tortured to death. Sambhaji and Kavi Kalash were brutally tortured for over a fortnight. The torture involved plucking out their eyes and tongue and pulling out their nails. The later part involved removing their skin. On March 11, 1689, Sambhaji was finally killed, reportedly by tearing him apart from the front and back with 'Wagh Nakhe’ (‘Tiger claws’, a kind of weapon), and was beheaded with an axe. This grievous death was given to him at Vadhu on the banks of the Bhima river, near Pune.

After every torture, Aurangzeb would ask him if he had had enough and wanted to convert – but the courageous king kept refusing. By doing so he earned the title of Dharmaveer (Protector of Dharma) by which he is known to this day. Aurangzeb ordered for Sambhaji's body to be cut into pieces and be thrown into the river. Residents of the nearby village named 'Vadhu' collected as many pieces of his body as they could find, sewed them together and performed the final rites on his body. These villagers later went on to use the surname 'Shivle' or 'Shivale', as per spelling preference, which means ‘sewing’ in the Marathi language.

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The Marathas of today, say that the Muslims and Marathas are from the same Bahujan samaj. The real enemy is the cunning and evil Brahmins. The history written so far is false and is Brahminical. I tend to believe them. I think even this story is imaginary. I do not think that this Sambhaji guy (who was a known rapist) was ever subjected to this torture. This is a Brahminical ploy to glorify this guy. I think he dies fighting the Brahmins together with his Mughal friends.
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Question is..are the Muslims capable of this? I dont think so. This man death has been glorified by brahmin historians. I do not think this is true.
Aurangzeb was capable of doing all this, the one who killed his brothers, he also killed Baba Banda Bahadur, and he can do it.

And gora babus killed four sons of Bahadur Shah Zafar in delhi after capturing them from Humayun’s tomb

Both of above instances were initially not recorded by any Brahmins.


Rulers did whatever necessary to sustain themselves in power, pusyamitra sunga klled last mauryan emperor in front of his own army, as he was incompetent king.

And let us assume Brahmins did it centuries ago, three is no point in kicking ass of their children now who don’t know what their crime is.


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Aurangzeb could have done this . To instill fear in the hearts of Sambhajis kin and the Maratha population in general , I mean the warrior clan .

But can you elaborate on how glorifying Sambhaji glorified or helped the Brahmins . What did they achieve?
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Aurangzeb could have done this . To instill fear in the hearts of Sambhajis kin and the Maratha population in general , I mean the warrior clan .

But can you elaborate on how glorifying Sambhaji glorified or helped the Brahmins . What did they achieve?
That is the answer I'm trying to find out. The Marathas of Pune claim that Brahmins were always evil. But why did the Brahmins have to glorify this Maratha rape artist Sambhaji.

Request : Can you pls. add a poll to this thread with the following question?

Was Aurangzeb capable of this torture?

Options : Yes and No
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story of sambhaji , in my words--


sambhaji maharaj was the elder son of shivaji ,founder of the maratha empire.

his mother ,saibai ,died in childbirth.

his stepmother ,soyrabai , wanted her son ,that is shivaji's second son ,rajaram ,to become king of marathas.

the accusations of rape were canards invented by soyrabai's camp to malign sambhaji ,so that the common people would not want him to be king.

the machinations of soyrabai made sambhaji's life hell ,and he revolted against shivaji and went into the mughal camp.

but the mughals plotted to arrest him ,and he came back to shivaji.

after shivaji's death there was civil war between him and soyrabai ,but he eventually won ,and became king.

soyrabai was arrested .but continued to plot to kill sambhaji from jail.

finally sambhaji had her executed by poisoning.

soyrabai partial historians would like to have us believe that she was killed by crushing her under an elephant ,but that accusation has been proved to be untrue.

inspite of the fact that soyrabai had plotted to make rajaram king , sambhaji treated his stepbrother kindly and allowed him to live in comfort.

as ruler he proved to be hotheaded ,and many of shivajis old courtiers fell out with him.

he fell into the influence of kavi kalush , a brahmin from kanauj in UP ,and began to turn to him for advice.

this antagonised many marathas against him further.

when he was camped in sangameshwar in konkan , some of his enemies in maratha camp gave information of his whereabouts to aurangzeb.

mughal forces made a lightening raid on his camp and captured him and his wife and son along with kavi kalash.

the two were paraded as clowns and fools bell were attached to the dunce caps they were forced to wear.

aurangeb then asked him to convert to islam ,on pain of a brutal death.

he haden't reckoned with the spirit of sambhaji........the chavva ( son of a lion ).

sambhaji openly abused the prophet mohammad,and asked for the hand of aurangzebs daughter in marraige ...........thus virtually inviting a gory death.

his tongue was chopped , his eyes were removed by putting burning hot pincers being put in them, his skin was flayed while he still was alive ,and his body was chopped limb to limb before being fed to the dogs.

but aurangzeb was mistaken......

by inviting and stoically putting up with such a horrible death , sambhaji had done what he coudn't achieve in life.......

he had become a hero......

all the disunited marathas came together to take revenge for the brutal murder of their gallant king.

aurangzeb continued his efforts to conquer maharashtra.

this led to 25 years of some of the most savage fighting india has ever seen......

ultimately the marathas drove out the mughals fron their lands.

aurangzeb ,who had started 25 years ago from the north to invade the south , could never return home.

he died a broken man at khuldabad in maharashtra.

according to a historian ,'' the deccan became the grave of his ambitions as well as his body.......''.

the marathas went on to invade the mughal empire after his death.

the high point weas reached when they captured peshawar in the north west frontier ,after crossing the indus river at attock.

'' the deccan horse had slaked their thirst in the waters of the indus !!!!!!! ''
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PUNE: The general body (GB) of the Pune Municipal Corporation (PMC) on Thursday approved shifting of Dadoji Konddeo's statue from Lal Mahal and install Shahaji Maharaj's statue over there. Konddeo's statue is part of a sculpture that depicts Chhatrapati Shivaji, along with Jijamata, tilling the soil of Pune with a golden plough.

The ruling Nationalist Congress Party (NCP)-Congress and the Republican Party of India (RPI) supported the resolution that says: "Dadoji Konddeo's statue should be shifted with honour from Lal Mahal and Shahaji Maharaj's statue be erected".

The resolution, tabled by Deepak Mankar, Anil Bhosale, Bapu Pathare and Shantilal Misal, received 54 votes in favour and 37 against it, with members of the BJP-Shiv Sena and the Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS) opposing it.

The resolution was discussed at an all-party meeting held prior to the GB meeting on Thursday.

In October, mayor Mohansingh Rajpal had announced that a committee of historians would be formed to decide the fate of Dadoji Konddeo's statue. The proposal to appoint a committee came up for discussion on Thursday. The ruling NCP-Congress, however, decided to table a supplementary resolution to shift the statue.

Opposition leaders Mukta Tilak and Sham Deshpande said the ruling combine should stick to its stand of appointing a committee, but the NCP-Congress leaders said shifting the statue was necessary to avoid law-and-order problems.

In August, the Lokshasan Andolan, led by former justices P B Sawant and B G Kolse Patil, took out an agitation demanding the removal of the statue. Rajpal had then said the statue will be removed within 24 hours from the historic Lal Mahal, which was the residence of Chhatrapati Shivaji.

However, Rajpal changed his stand later and said a committee would be appointed and a decision would be taken according to its suggestions.


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Reminds me of the heinous and brutal torture meted out to Capt. Saurabh Kalia in this 21st century...... .....
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story of sambhaji , in my words--


sambhaji maharaj was the elder son of shivaji ,founder of the maratha empire.

his mother ,saibai ,died in childbirth.

his stepmother ,soyrabai , wanted her son ,that is shivaji's second son ,rajaram ,to become king of marathas.

the accusations of rape were canards invented by soyrabai's camp to malign sambhaji ,so that the common people would not want him to be king.

the machinations of soyrabai made sambhaji's life hell ,and he revolted against shivaji and went into the mughal camp.

but the mughals plotted to arrest him ,and he came back to shivaji.

after shivaji's death there was civil war between him and soyrabai ,but he eventually won ,and became king.

soyrabai was arrested .but continued to plot to kill sambhaji from jail.

finally sambhaji had her executed by poisoning.

soyrabai partial historians would like to have us believe that she was killed by crushing her under an elephant ,but that accusation has been proved to be untrue.

inspite of the fact that soyrabai had plotted to make rajaram king , sambhaji treated his stepbrother kindly and allowed him to live in comfort.

as ruler he proved to be hotheaded ,and many of shivajis old courtiers fell out with him.

he fell into the influence of kavi kalush , a brahmin from kanauj in UP ,and began to turn to him for advice.

this antagonised many marathas against him further.

when he was camped in sangameshwar in konkan , some of his enemies in maratha camp gave information of his whereabouts to aurangzeb.

mughal forces made a lightening raid on his camp and captured him and his wife and son along with kavi kalash.

the two were paraded as clowns and fools bell were attached to the dunce caps they were forced to wear.

aurangeb then asked him to convert to islam ,on pain of a brutal death.

he haden't reckoned with the spirit of sambhaji........the chavva ( son of a lion ).

sambhaji openly abused the prophet mohammad,and asked for the hand of aurangzebs daughter in marraige ...........thus virtually inviting a gory death.

his tongue was chopped , his eyes were removed by putting burning hot pincers being put in them, his skin was flayed while he still was alive ,and his body was chopped limb to limb before being fed to the dogs.

but aurangzeb was mistaken......

by inviting and stoically putting up with such a horrible death , sambhaji had done what he coudn't achieve in life.......

he had become a hero......

all the disunited marathas came together to take revenge for the brutal murder of their gallant king.

aurangzeb continued his efforts to conquer maharashtra.

this led to 25 years of some of the most savage fighting india has ever seen......

ultimately the marathas drove out the mughals fron their lands.

aurangzeb ,who had started 25 years ago from the north to invade the south , could never return home.

he died a broken man at khuldabad in maharashtra.

according to a historian ,'' the deccan became the grave of his ambitions as well as his body.......''.

the marathas went on to invade the mughal empire after his death.

the high point weas reached when they captured peshawar in the north west frontier ,after crossing the indus river at attock.

'' the deccan horse had slaked their thirst in the waters of the indus !!!!!!! ''
what treatment was given to them 3?
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A new achievement of the Marathas.
I am all for anyone from Shivaji's clan to be honored! And what's the big deal if statues are rotated. All these years Dadoji was honored. Now Shahaji will be honored. And its not like they are going to break Dadoji's statue.

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