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Old November 15th, 2010, 09:03 AM
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Talking Talaq by Muslim man on cellphone valid: Deoband



DEOBAND: Talaq uttered thrice by a Muslim man on a mobile phone will be considered valid even if his wife is unable to hear it all the three times due to network and other problems, a fresh fatwa has ruled.

The fatwa was given by Darul-Ifta, the fatwa department of leading Sunni Islamic seminary Dar-ul-Uloom Deoband, in reply to a query by a man.

The man in his query had asked that in case no witness was present when he utters talaq thrice to his wife over phone whether it would be considered valid or not.

"I angrily said talaq three times to my wife on cell phone but she claimed that she didn't hear it even once and nobody was around both of us. Please tell me whether talaq has taken place," he asked.

In its reply, Dar-ul-Ifta said, "If you have given three talaqs to your wife, all the three took place and she became haram (forbidden) for you."

The fatwa said the woman will be free to marry anywhere she likes after her iddat (three month period after divorce) is over.

"It is not necessary for talaq to take place that the wife hears it or the witnesses are present," it ruled.

In October, the seminary had ruled that saying talaq three times even on a humourous note is valid as per the Sharia (Islamic Law) and the marriage stands nullified.

A youth in his query had stated that while chatting with his wife over net he had jokingly punched talaq thrice.

Claiming to have less knowledge about Islam, the youth said he didn't know how talaq is executed.

The youth had stated that he was happily living with his wife and wanted to live with her in future as well.

Darul-Ifta in its reply had said once talaq is put out three times it amounts to divorce and her wife was "haraam" for him.
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Old November 15th, 2010, 09:07 AM
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Re: Talaq by Muslim man on cellphone valid: Deoband

And there are additional rules. The man cannot live with his ex-wife... that is haraam as mentioned. He cannot remarry her. The only way to remarry her is if the wife marries a different person and then divorces him after consummation of marriage.

So, these two are living in sin... and should/can be stoned as per the shariah law.
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Re: Talaq by Muslim man on cellphone valid: Deoband

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And there are additional rules. The man cannot live with his ex-wife... that is haraam as mentioned. He cannot remarry her. The only way to remarry her is if the wife marries a different person and then divorces him after consummation of marriage.

So, these two are living in sin... and should/can be stoned as per the shariah law.
it should be noted & appreciated that shariah is not dependant on airtel, vodafone or reliance etc. take a step further, its not even dependent on whether or not the wife has heard the magic triplet.
she can be made haram without knowing it herself
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Re: Talaq by Muslim man on cellphone valid: Deoband

ye ajeeb baat hai yarr, according to sharia rape prove karne ke liye 4 ijjatdar admi witness hone chahiye, lekin aadmi ne diya hua talaq prove karne ke liye koi nahi hog witness to bhi chalega?
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ye ajeeb baat hai yarr, according to sharia rape prove karne ke liye 4 ijjatdar admi witness hone chahiye, lekin aadmi ne diya hua talaq prove karne ke liye koi nahi hog witness to bhi chalega?
This is a great point. I wonder why no one took this up further.
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Re: Talaq by Muslim man on cellphone valid: Deoband

I think its right.
Why not!
If they can do Nikah over the cellphones, why not Talaq?
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I think its right.
Why not!
If they can do Nikah over the cellphones, why not Talaq?
But the question is, is a Nikah accepted if the cellphone reception is bad... and what about boinking... how do they boink over a cellphone
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what about boinking... how do they boink over a cellphone

if they can tell over the cellphone how to... and somebody else takes directions and help the caller.
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if they can tell over the cellphone how to... and somebody else takes directions and help the caller.
Or they can text each other:
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Or they can text each other:
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whaddyu mean?? :eff u :tantrik yogi! ??
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whaddyu mean?? :eff u :tantrik yogi! ??
Ohho...my bad...I forgot that some of you here are above textual age..
In text lingo, TY means Thank You. Looks like, you don't read Queen Kundan's post properly.
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This is a great point. I wonder why no one took this up further.
who exactly are you expecting to take this up further? there is nothing further after god's word. what is said is said. no arguments. last messenger.
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if they can tell over the cellphone how to... and somebody else takes directions and help the caller.
what an idea sirjee. rep dia. POSITIVE.
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what an idea sirjee. rep dia. POSITIVE.

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Re: Talaq by Muslim man on cellphone valid: Deoband

In Islam, Intention is important, once Muslims made up minds 100% about Good or bad, how they execute it, it's formal.
for example, if person decide give 1 million dolors in charity, it's formal if he announce that on public TV, news papers or give privately,put cash in bag and drop money in charity box etc.
About Marriage and Divorce, If man, woman and their families agreed, it's just formal to validate Marriage in society, they can marry in person, over telephone, cell phone, on Internet. in Islam, marriage can be done without spending single rupee. About Divorce, the most important is intention, if husband made up his mind 100%, he can inform in person, by post or by phone, it's just formal to validate his decision. Islam has made it simple and easy marriage and divorce for Muslims.
BTW, Not only Muslims, thousands of non-mulsim divorces done every year in Europe and USA, they don't even use cell phone, after husband/wife left home, hire divorce lawyer, send notice and papers in courier, exchange signatures on papers and divorce done without see each other or talk each other.
Muslims respect other religion's weddings and divorce, similarly, non-Muslims should respect Muslims sentiments. Muslims respect and love Allah so much, Allah has taught Muslims how to marry and divorce, It is Muslim faith that Allah is best to guide, no one is better guide than Allah how to marry and divorce. It's Muslim's business, let Muslims mind their own business.
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