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Old July 2nd, 2017, 03:50 PM
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Biggest India China standoff in the himalayas since the 1962 war

India has pushed in more troops in a "non-combative mode" to strengthen its position in an area near Sikkim, where its soldiers have been locked in a stand-off with Chinese troops for almost a month now in what has been the longest such impasse between the two armies since 1962.
India brought in more troops after the destruction of two of its bunkers and "aggressive tactics" adopted by the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA), sources said. In a "non-combative mode", the nozzle of a gun is placed downwards.

Giving details for the first time about the events that preceded the face off between the two armies, the sources said the PLA on June 1 asked the Indian Army to remove the two bunkers set up in 2012 at Lalten in Doka La, which falls in the vicinity of Chumbi Valley at the corner of India-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction.
The Indian Army, which had been patrolling this area for many years, decided in 2012 that two bunkers would be positioned there as a backup option, besides providing security to the Bhutan-China border.

The Indian Army forward positions informed Sukna-based 33 Corps Headquarter in North Bengal about the Chinese warnings on the bunkers, the sources said.
However, during the night of June 6, two Chinese bulldozers destroyed the bunkers, claiming that the area belonged to China and that India or Bhutan had no right over it, the sources said.

Indian troops on the ground prevented the Chinese men and machines from doing any further damage or transgressing into the area, they said.
Additional forces from nearby brigade headquarters, located 20 km from the face off point, were moved in on June 8 during which a scuffle led to soldiers on both sides suffering minor injuries.

PLA troops were rushed in from its 141 division located in the area, prompting the Indian Army to also strengthen its position.
This is the longest stand-off between the two armies since 1962. The last one, which carried on for 21 days, occurred at Daulat Beg Oldie in the Ladakh division of Jammu and Kashmir in 2013, when Chinese troops entered 30 km into Indian territory till the Depsang Plains and claimed it to be a part of its Xinjiang province.
They were, however, pushed back.
Sikkim, which became a part of India in May 1976, is the only state which has a demarcated border with China. The lines are based on a treaty signed with the Chinese in 1898.

After the India-China war of 1962, the area where the Indian troops are stationed was placed under the Indian Army and the ITBP, which is the border guarding force and has a camp 15 km from the international border.
As the scuffle broke out between the two sides, the Indian Army rushed an officer of the Major General rank to the area and a flag meeting was sought with the Chinese counterparts.
China rejected two such requests from the Indian side, but accepted the third call for a meeting, where it asked the Indian Army to withdraw its troops from the Lalten area, which falls in Doka La.

Doka La is the Indian name for the region which Bhutan recognises as Dokalam, while China claims it to be part of its Donglang region.
As a fallout of the stand-off, the Chinese refused to allow the first batch of 47 pilgrims, who were to conduct the annual Kailash Mansarovar Yatra, into Tibet. They also conveyed to the Indian side that visas of another batch of 50 yatris had also been cancelled, the sources said, describing the move as an indication of "increased tempers" in Beijing.

Kailash Mansarovar yatra through Nathu La cancelled04:11Kailash Mansarovar yatra through Nathu La cancelled
The Sikkim route to Mansarovar, which is in Tibet, was opened in 2015, enabling pilgrims to travel the 1500-km long route from Nathu La to Kailash by buses.
It is not the first time that such a transgression has happened at Doka La. The Chinese forces had in November 2008 destroyed some makeshift Indian army bunkers there.

Defence experts believe China wants to exert its dominance over the Chumbi Valley, which is a part of the southern reaches of Tibet. By claiming the Doka La area, Beijing wants to maximise its geographical advantage so that it can monitor all movements along the India-Bhutan border.
China has also increased diplomatic pressure on India and lodged a protest over the alleged "crossing of boundary" by Indian troops in the Sikkim section.
They demanded their immediate withdrawal, as Beijing warned that future visits of Indian pilgrims to Kailash Mansarovar would depend on the resolution of the stand-off.
"Our position to uphold our territorial sovereignty is unwavering. We hope the Indian side can work with China in the same direction and immediately withdraw the personnel who have overstepped and trespassed into Chinese border," Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lu Kang had told the media in Beijing last week.
People's Liberation Army spokesman Col Wu Qian also spoke a tough language while making a reference to the 1962 Sino-India conflict, saying that New Delhi should "learn historical lessons".

Qian described Indian Army Chief General Bipin Rawat's remarks that India was ready for a "two-and-a-half front war" as "extremely irresponsible" and asked him to "stop clamouring for war".
Rawat had said India was prepared for security threats posed by China, Pakistan as well as by internal threats.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/59410894.cms
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sorry - but that looks like a weak standing attempt at copulation - pants on
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That's why no bullet has been fired for a long time.
Why the Chinese won't shoot, just play wrestling match? I understand India wanting to avoid armed confrontation with a superior neighbor. India is not blinking do far, is why China is a bit perturbed.
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Re: Biggest India China standoff in the himalayas since the 1962 war

Amidst the standoff, superhero, super diplomat Raool meets Chinkiambassador to understand the situation. Mofo doesnt know to read I guess and has no time to watch news becuase he is busy watching cartoons.
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Any further news on this? the only recent update I see in the media is a statement by CPM urging the govt to wash the hands off this issue.

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/cp...e-3810673.html
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Any further news on this? the only recent update I see in the media is a statement by CPM urging the govt to wash the hands off this issue.

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/cp...e-3810673.html
China is hinting that if India can come to Bhutan's aid then it can also come to Pakistan's aid . It is also conducting live fire drills of it's army in Tibet to impress Indians with it's might . Also threatening to revoke it's acceptance of Sikkim as part of India .

Partly this is all bluff and bluster by the Dragon. India holds the high ground in doklam, where the standoff is occurring, and it's forces have the military advantage due to the holding of high ground. Not easy for china to dislodge the Indians....

For India it is of huge importance that it prevents China from building the road in doklam. For if China manages to build the road then it can bring artillery through it to bear on the narrow strip of land connecting indian mainland with northeast India ( called chicken's neck ) and cut off the mainland's communication with northeast any time it wants .

Anyway both sides are waiting for winter to set in , when extensive snowfall will force soldiers of both armies to back off . But winter is only in November and till then the standoff may continue . We will have to see what twists and turns it brings .
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China's acceptance of Sikkim is in the same agreement where India accepts Tibet as a part of China. It was signed in 2003,
It was criticized as a sell out.
If China backs out on Sikkim, India does the same for Tibet.

Incidentally I had also been to China shortly before.
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China has so many fronts open with so many countries. It feels like China is going to cause the next flash point.
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Modi’s confidence seems total fearless, ( in pictures , I saw ) when recently meeting Chinese president at G sumeet. Russia, US, Israel, Tibet, Bhutan, Japan, Taiwan all speaks in ours strong favor, if China ever attacked India,. Btw,.. do u guys think that in that secret meeting of Pappu , ….. woh Nehru ki, koi secrecy formulas about how to attack India from Kashmeer side,.. etc ) Chinesse ko de aaya hoga,…..And this Amarnath attack was done just to divert the Indian public-media attention ?

Nehru had intentionally fakked us for Akshay-chin giving away and recently Sonia and Gadheda-singh was also that close to giving away,.. Sia-Chin to China,..

Pappu is hell bent to fraud India, and let attack China on India,..

Kya kam-naseebi hai,….!!

*Maan-sarovar aur Kailaash ki yatra ko, China se manzoori leni parti hai,..
*Amar-mnaath ki yatra ko vaste, Kashmeeri pakaistaani O se,..
*Aur, khud anpe HinduO ke desh mein, Hum HinduO ka, Ram-mandeer ko bana ne ko vaste,.. desh ke Musal-maano se !!

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Russia, US, Israel, Sikkim, Bhutan, Japan, Taiwan all speaks in ours strong favor, if China ever attacked India,.

Sikkim is a part of India dude.
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Government authorises Indian armed forces to make emergency purchases for a short intense war .

https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.busin.../1/256382.html
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