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Old September 9th, 2008, 12:00 PM
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Historical move by Guj Govt.

Gujarat: Open book exams from March '09

9 Sep 2008, 0304 hrs IST,TNN

AHMEDABAD: In March 2009, class X students will walk into their board examination centres with their textbooks in hand to copy answers without batting an eyelid. Half way into the year, the Gujarat Secondary and Higher Secondary Education Board (GSHSEB) has gone ahead and introduced Open Book format of examination for classes VIII, IX and X.

Chief Minister Narendra Modi had mentioned introducing this system when he addressed students on Teacher's Day.

The GSHSEB took the decision on Monday afternoon after a meeting of the examination committee, education committee and the executive council of the GSHSEB.

GSHSEB has refused to seek clearance from the state government and decided to implement it right away. They say it is mainly to benefit the weaker students who failed in Class X. Under the new examination format, students will be allowed to carry only the textbook of the subject concerned to the examination centre. The exam will have two parts objective questions worth 60 marks to be assessed in the Optical Mark Reader (OMR) system and 40 marks of subjective questions. The GSHSEB plans to introduce this for Class XI and XII in the next academic year.

"We are not seeking any government approval because that will only lead to delay. Thus, we are going ahead with the implementation. Students should not face any problem since course has not been changed and only the pattern of examination is being changed," said GSHSEB chairman, RK Pathak. He said, "The examinations are for testing students' intelligence and not memory."

The paper setters for these exams will also be selected through a test. They will be tested for multiple choice questions for 150 marks and 150 marks of subjective questions. Top scorers will be selected as paper setters and moderators. The only criteria is that the teachers should have a teaching experience of five years.





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I think this is better move. Because now the kids will have to read the books. Otherwise where will they find answers? And the kids will be under less stress.
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Re: Historical move by Guj Govt.

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Gujarat: Open book exams from March '09

9 Sep 2008, 0304 hrs IST,TNN

AHMEDABAD: In March 2009, class X students will walk into their board examination centres with their textbooks in hand to copy answers without batting an eyelid. Half way into the year, the Gujarat Secondary and Higher Secondary Education Board (GSHSEB) has gone ahead and introduced Open Book format of examination for classes VIII, IX and X.

Chief Minister Narendra Modi had mentioned introducing this system when he addressed students on Teacher's Day.

The GSHSEB took the decision on Monday afternoon after a meeting of the examination committee, education committee and the executive council of the GSHSEB.

GSHSEB has refused to seek clearance from the state government and decided to implement it right away. They say it is mainly to benefit the weaker students who failed in Class X. Under the new examination format, students will be allowed to carry only the textbook of the subject concerned to the examination centre. The exam will have two parts objective questions worth 60 marks to be assessed in the Optical Mark Reader (OMR) system and 40 marks of subjective questions. The GSHSEB plans to introduce this for Class XI and XII in the next academic year.

"We are not seeking any government approval because that will only lead to delay. Thus, we are going ahead with the implementation. Students should not face any problem since course has not been changed and only the pattern of examination is being changed," said GSHSEB chairman, RK Pathak. He said, "The examinations are for testing students' intelligence and not memory."

The paper setters for these exams will also be selected through a test. They will be tested for multiple choice questions for 150 marks and 150 marks of subjective questions. Top scorers will be selected as paper setters and moderators. The only criteria is that the teachers should have a teaching experience of five years.





What do you guys say about this.
I think this is better move. Because now the kids will have to read the books. Otherwise where will they find answers? And the kids will be under less stress.
Not sure Amtha bhai, we all were educated in the conventional method are'nt we doing well. Formative years are the years where you can learn a lot and from that prespective it makes sense to push and get the maximum. Again I am not saying make it extremely tough and slave drive the kids, but this to me is a recipe for disaster. There's no shortcut. You'll have to put in the dues
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Re: Historical move by Guj Govt.

It appears to be a good move...... The art of finding solutions is more important than memorising the solutions hours before the exam...... Its enuf to know what is where and how to use it.........
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rational thinking, bye bye book worms and mugging insects, if the questions paper are set properly, we will have rational thinkers and intelligent students topping the charts, not that wedid not have them in previous setup, but bye bye book worms
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Gujarat: Open book exams from March '09

9 Sep 2008, 0304 hrs IST,TNN

AHMEDABAD: In March 2009, class X students will walk into their board examination centres with their textbooks in hand to copy answers without batting an eyelid. Half way into the year, the Gujarat Secondary and Higher Secondary Education Board (GSHSEB) has gone ahead and introduced Open Book format of examination for classes VIII, IX and X.

Chief Minister Narendra Modi had mentioned introducing this system when he addressed students on Teacher's Day.

The GSHSEB took the decision on Monday afternoon after a meeting of the examination committee, education committee and the executive council of the GSHSEB.

GSHSEB has refused to seek clearance from the state government and decided to implement it right away. They say it is mainly to benefit the weaker students who failed in Class X. Under the new examination format, students will be allowed to carry only the textbook of the subject concerned to the examination centre. The exam will have two parts — objective questions worth 60 marks to be assessed in the Optical Mark Reader (OMR) system and 40 marks of subjective questions. The GSHSEB plans to introduce this for Class XI and XII in the next academic year.

"We are not seeking any government approval because that will only lead to delay. Thus, we are going ahead with the implementation. Students should not face any problem since course has not been changed and only the pattern of examination is being changed," said GSHSEB chairman, RK Pathak. He said, "The examinations are for testing students' intelligence and not memory."

The paper setters for these exams will also be selected through a test. They will be tested for multiple choice questions for 150 marks and 150 marks of subjective questions. Top scorers will be selected as paper setters and moderators. The only criteria is that the teachers should have a teaching experience of five years.





What do you guys say about this.
I think this is better move. Because now the kids will have to read the books. Otherwise where will they find answers? And the kids will be under less stress.
Amtha bhai, it always depends on the implementation. Over here in USA, even if we have open book tests, unless you know the whole stuff(logically i mean) u cannot get through the exam. And in that sceanario text books do not matter much.
On the other side, if they keep having the same exam pattern where in a person is supposed to mug up the whole answers to pass, in that scenario this system of open books would $crew the students capability, like what happened with Osmania University during 60's and 70's
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Re: Historical move by Guj Govt.

This format has been proposed first time in 1992 when I was in 8th class. good move indeed.


what about using of Navneets, Guides, Apekshits, Siddhis, LMRs, Naksapothis, Prayogpothis, Swa-adhyaypothis, Grammers, Vyakrans etc. ??? would be allowed in exams or not??
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Re: Historical move by Guj Govt.

The move sounds good. Now everyone will have to know the material rather then mug up old exam papers to top. I just hope the questions are more competative in nature. I see no harm if questions are addressed properly.
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Amtha bhai, it always depends on the implementation. Over here in USA, even if we have open book tests, unless you know the whole stuff(logically i mean) u cannot get through the exam. And in that sceanario text books do not matter much.
On the other side, if they keep having the same exam pattern where in a person is supposed to mug up the whole answers to pass, in that scenario this system of open books would $crew the students capability, like what happened with Osmania University during 60's and 70's
if they set the question papers like they do here, concentrating on student's ability to solve a problem rather than mug and vomit in the answer sheet, this is a good move by the guj govt. hope the central and other state govts. are looking into this.
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"The examinations are for testing students' intelligence and not memory."
Precisely ... way to go. Kudos ... ... a step in the right direction.

Had to bloody memorise for hours ... date, year of the birth and death of people I despised ... Nerulala for instance. What the fuck do I care now what year Neru died? What the fuck do I care in what year Panipat happened or what the fuck were the names of Akbar's sons. All the bloody sleepless nights wasted trying to memorise petty and insignificant.
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Re: Historical move by Guj Govt.

@yogi baba i think i still have that memory when nehru died in my sub consious memory
But all in all a good move.Its a misconception that if you have open book exams u can pass or top.Unless u have a fair idea of whole book and know where to locate the answers this will be of no use and a time waster.Just wish they test the intelligence more and the questions are rther competitive.
In our days i remember if u can mug up last 5 year questions you were bound to have answered almost 80% of the questions hope that scenario doesnt happen here.
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Amtha bhai, it always depends on the implementation. Over here in USA, even if we have open book tests, unless you know the whole stuff(logically i mean) u cannot get through the exam. And in that sceanario text books do not matter much.
On the other side, if they keep having the same exam pattern where in a person is supposed to mug up the whole answers to pass, in that scenario this system of open books would $crew the students capability, like what happened with Osmania University during 60's and 70's
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They said (dept of ed) that the format of exam papers will be changed. (in gujarati newspaper). It will be like here. Most part will be objectives with options to choose (multiple choices) and some subjective too.
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my point is....what is the use when the max gujjs will take up is MBA at post-grad level...its business..business and business for them

it will be death well for science students coz till 10th std...questions in science are straight forward and doesnt involve derivations etc...so even if examiners are smart enuff to ask student 'draw and explain the functioning of a setup that involves uranium as fuel'...even an avg student will copy the diagram and related theory of a nuclear reactor...itz okay for languages, arts&humanities subjects where there is more theory and a student will need to comprehend from large amount of text but science....no ...answers here are to the point and even a below avg student will know where to find this answer in book...he may get confused when the question is abt world war-2 when he has world war-1 also in syllabus but science...a nuclear reactor r related question will be in fuel/energy chapter not in organic chemistry chapter...

and reg mugging up...well atleast mugging up improves memory retention capability which proves to be an assest in later years if you are pursuing medicine etc...

so I would say....make it 60-40 in final assesment....allocate 60% for open-book and 40% for closed book exams in final result

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Not sure Amtha bhai, we all were educated in the conventional method are'nt we doing well.
Yes we are all doing well. But how many of us here are VPs and CEOs. Aren't your VPs and CEOs ( For those in USA0 educated in America ?
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Well the plan is off....As per newspapers today govt has shelved this proposal as it seems that GSHSEB made this decision in haste.
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As I said before, this format has been proposed first time in 1992 and implimented in 1995 and been shelved by BJP Govt. in same year after receiving huge money from Gala Publications Ltd. and since that time in many occasions Govt. trying to dig-up this issue just to threat them to get money and subsequently Govt. getting paid unofficially... but in the latest election Gala Publications Ltd. did not fulfil Govt. wish, instead of demanded amount AAA crores BJP got only AA crores.. since then Modi has decided to screw them.... and you saw the result... and now again they hv shelved the proposal.. ha ha ha

All gujaraties are well knowing what is Gala Publications Ltd. influence in the education and what loss they will have if govt. use this format
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