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Old February 1st, 2018, 07:54 PM
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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

Filters make you read things in wrong way .. y’all keep falling prey to congressi leftist media for decades. Eat this :

Has amt of budget and GDP increased or not?

The total defence outlay of Rs 2.94 lakh crore is a hike of 7.81% compared to the allocation made to the MoD last year. While this was an increase from last year and was 12.1% of the Central government’s total expenditure, the defence budget’s share of the GDP is at the lowest it has ever been since the 1962 war between India and China.

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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

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This tells you the priorities in this budget.

Maybe they should impose taxes on the faujis too. That may take care of the deficit
Who granted OROP? Congress govts from 1950? Where does that money come from?

Which budget since 1990s was great according to you? Comment with sincerity.
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Even the IT revolution that con party claims was the giving of pappu's pitaji is a big fake. Computerization of railways was started by the janatha party and finally came online during con party rule.
As i said elsewhere, though he may not have imagined it, george fernandes boosted wipro and HCL by driving away IBM. the electronics city in Bangalore apparently happened during Devraj Urs.

But pappu ke pappa's sidekick sam pitroda did start off somethings like C-Dot and NIC and help in his own way.
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As i said elsewhere, though he may not have imagined it, george fernandes boosted wipro and HCL by driving away IBM. the electronics city in Bangalore apparently happened during Devraj Urs.

But pappu ke pappa's sidekick sam pitroda did start off somethings like C-Dot and NIC and help in his own way.
The sam pitroda said no when companies wanted to bring car phones in to Metro cities. we could have telecom revolution lot earlier.

The reason that was given against car phones was that it was a luxury.
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Who granted OROP? Congress govts from 1950? Where does that money come from?
Sure I know where the money comes from. I pay it, through various taxes and levies

I know this for sure because the faujis don't pay any taxes. The toothpaste that I buy in the market for Rs. 50, is available in military "canteens" for Rs. 32-35

Best budget since 1990 ?? Don't remember anything that far back. But generally no government budget is good news
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The sam pitroda said no when companies wanted to bring car phones in to Metro cities. we could have telecom revolution lot earlier.

The reason that was given against car phones was that it was a luxury.
Its a hangover from the previous Indu Sarkar- cars were a luxury. Phones were a luxury. So obviously carphones will be a luxury.

RG moved slightly towards the markets but did not dismantle the license permit raj.
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Its a hangover from the previous Indu Sarkar- cars were a luxury. Phones were a luxury. So obviously carphones will be a luxury.

RG moved slightly towards the markets but did not dismantle the license permit raj.
con party has thrown so much BS on India that we will take atleast 25-30 years of non con party rule to come out of that.

be it the tharki chacha saying no to volkswagon beetle production in India, or his defunding of millitary and converting OFB's to make coffee percolates. Every step of his was a mess for India.

that SOB nehru was spending 26,000 rs/day from govt treasury but when he came to open the dorms(hostels) for REC warangal, he saw that the showers were equipped with geysers for hot water and asked the dean to close them down as we are a poor country and that hot water was a luxury.
The hot water facility was built by the foreign country(i think it was either Gernamy or US) which collaborated with Indian govt. Their idea was to give the students a taste of what it is like to live like western countries and what to aim for. Mofo nehru wanted to live like a king and was in process of building an opulent white house like building for him self, but could not bear the thought of students having hot water geysers.
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con party has thrown so much BS on India that we will take atleast 25-30 years of non con party rule to come out of that.

be it the tharki chacha saying no to volkswagon beetle production in India, or his defunding of millitary and converting OFB's to make coffee percolates. Every step of his was a mess for India.

that SOB nehru was spending 26,000 rs/day from govt treasury but when he came to open the dorms(hostels) for REC warangal, he saw that the showers were equipped with geysers for hot water and asked the dean to close them down as we are a poor country and that hot water was a luxury.
The hot water facility was built by the foreign country(i think it was either Gernamy or US) which collaborated with Indian govt. Their idea was to give the students a taste of what it is like to live like western countries and what to aim for. Mofo nehru wanted to live like a king and was in process of building an opulent white house like building for him self, but could not bear the thought of students having hot water geysers.
yups - i saw teen Murthy Bhavan and my Behenji and i expressed. "He had such a luxurious lifestyle and his party preaches a simple lifestyle."

THere is a similar story from my alma mater also. he saw hostel rooms and told that they were too big for students and the next hostels had the rooms split into two. But if you look at it from another angle, he did build those colleges.
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yups - i saw teen Murthy Bhavan and my Behenji and i expressed. "He had such a luxurious lifestyle and his party preaches a simple lifestyle."

THere is a similar story from my alma mater also. he saw hostel rooms and told that they were too big for students and the next hostels had the rooms split into two. But if you look at it from another angle, he did build those colleges.
he did not build the colleges, it was done by a collaboration with a foreign country and these were pre-WW2 plans that were being implemented.

That said, found this blog about life in REC warangal around 1980

https://medium.com/nit-warangal-101/...1-cdac379909e5

https://medium.com/nit-warangal-101/...2-12ccefb69e50

https://medium.com/nit-warangal-101/...3-18d35134008e

read it, its intresting
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Post Rajiv Gandhi I don't have any hopes from Congress. And if even a nationalistic government does not give more money for defence then India will never become a major military power.
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Post Rajiv Gandhi I don't have any hopes from Congress. And if even a nationalistic government does not give more money for defence then India will never become a major military power.
I am slightly puzzled with this Ashdoc. The government has given more money for defence as compared to last year! Its false to say the government has given less money for defence.

the % of GDP allocated to defence has dropped - these are two different things and I expect you do realise it but just want to let steam out for hitting cash...
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I am slightly puzzled with this Ashdoc. The government has given more money for defence as compared to last year! Its false to say the government has given less money for defence.

the % of GDP allocated to defence has dropped - these are two different things and I expect you do realise it but just want to let steam out for hitting cash...
Even if the money allocated for defence is little more it is not enough. It is the kind of money that any post RajivGandhi congress government would have allocated for defence.

A nationalistic government has to put it's money where it's mouth is. A considerable increase in defence budget was expected from a government claiming nationalism as it's forte . But nothing such has happened.
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how much would you say is enough?
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how much would you say is enough?
2.5 percent of the GDP . Even in the TOI article
( whose link is given in the first post of this thread ) 2.5 percent of the GDP is thought as ideal figure. It will make India a major military power.
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https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/thepr...sed-exist/amp/

This article speaks about the measures India must take to respond to Pakistan's repeated violations of the LOC. But these measures require more funds that only increase in defence budget will provide.
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