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Old January 2nd, 2005, 12:53 PM
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Islam is angry child (Corrupted form) of Hinduism

Muhammad's own uncle, Umar-Bin-E-Hassham was a staunch Hindu and fervent devotee of Lord Shiva. He was a renowned poet and wrote many verses in praise of Shiva. One of these has survived on page 235 of Sair-Ul-Okul and reads as follows:


Kafavomal fikra min ulumin Tab asayru
Kaluwan amataul Hawa was Tajakhru
We Tajakhayroba udan Kalalwade-E Liboawa
Walukayanay jatally, hay Yauma Tab asayru
Wa Abalolha ajabu armeeman MAHADEVA
Manojail ilamuddin minhum wa sayattaru
Wa Sahabi Kay-yam feema-Kamil MINDAY Yauman
Wa Yakulum no latabahan foeennak Tawjjaru
Massayaray akhalakan hasanan Kullahum
Najumum aja- at Summa gabul HINDU


which translates as:


The man who may spend his life in sin
and irreligion or waste it in lechery and wrath
If at least he relent and return to
righteousness can he be saved?
If but once he worship Mahadeva with a pure
heart, he will attain the ultimate in spirituality.
Oh Lord Shiva exchange my entire life for but
a day's sojourn in India where one attains salvation.
But one pilgrimage there secures for one all
merit and company of the truly great.


*(MAHADEVA means Lord SHIVA )

Despite the fact that Muhammad had to destroy all traces of Hinduism (Vedic culture)in order to make his "new religion" work, he knew that in order to convince people he would have to borrow from the Vedic culture that surrounded him. Being illiterate he picked out rituals and symbols that he didn't understand and distorted and falsified them for his own ends. Here is a list of these distortions:



1) Muhammad destroyed all 360 idols, but even he could not summon the courage to completely obliterate the Shivling (Lord Shiva's sacred stone symbol) in the Kaaba . He entered the temple and kissed the black stone. The Shivling was so sacred that the man who so detested idol- worship ended up kissing the largest idol in the Kaaba. Later his followers in a fit of piety broke the Shivling and then out of remorse repatched it together again. Today it lies broken at seven places and held together by a silver band studded with silver nails, bearing the name "Sangey Aswad" which came from the Sanskrit Ashwet meaning non-white or black stone.

2)He jumbled up the Sanskrit words Nama and Yaja (which meant "bowing and worshipping" respectively) into a combination word Namaz and used that to describe his prescribed method of prayer.

3)Because the Vedic custom was to pray facing the East, in his hatred for all things Hindu, he directed his followers to pray facing only the west.

4) The method of circling around a Black stone (Shivling) seven times in a clockwise direction is Vedic (Hindu) custom. Muhammad with his lack of originality decided that the 7 ritual perambulations should be retained but again in his hatred of all things Vedic decided the direction of the perambulations should be anti-clockwise.

5)With his phobia of all things Vedic, Muhammad knew that the greatest reminder and threat to his forced brand of religion were the beautiful Vedic idols of Arabic temples. Thus he destroyed every idol he could find and made idol worship the greatest crime for a Muslim. Such a man could never have comprehended how an abstract concept can be conveyed through a symbolic representation in the form of an image. Thus he made all image representation a sin as well.

6)Vedic religion is known for its ancient oral tradition. It is well known that the Vedic culture emphasized oral debate and expression far more than the written word. In adition the oral recitation of Vedic scriptures was always done in a lyrical fashion, utilizing music and thus reaching a height of expression. In fear of this musical tradition Muhammad decided to forbid Music.

7)All Arabic copies of the Koran have the mysterious figure 786 imprinted on them . No Arabic scholar has been able to determine the choice of this particular number as divine. It is an established fact that Muhammad was illiterate therefore it is obvious that he would not be able to differentiate numbers from letters. This "magical" number 786 is none other than the Vedic holy letter "OM" written in Sanskrit (Refer to figure 1). Anyone who knows Sanskrit can try reading the symbol for "OM" backwards in the Arabic way and magically the numbers 786 will appear! Muslims in their ignorance simply do not realise that this special number is nothing more than the holiest of Vedic symbols misread.

see Attachment--
Read from right to left this figure
of OM represents the numbers 786.

8)Kabba's representation of a microcosm demonstrated by the eight directional structure was derived from the Tantric pattern of Hinduism. Right at the centre of the Kaaba was the octogonal pedestal of Bramha the creator. Today this very pedestal is called Maqam-E-IBrahim by the Muslims.
*Bhrama is God's creative power (1st person of Hindu trinity)
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Red face say that to Imam Bukhari

Try telling that to the arabas, or the imamas or for that matter that OBL.

My dear it doesent matter where they originated from, right now they are creating a havoc in this world (probably one level above the tsunami)
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 04:32 AM
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1.Never heared or read any uncle by the name of 'Umar-Bin-E-Hassham' because E-Hassham means a tribe and cant be an uncle cause prophet came from a different tribe.

2.snagey-aswad is a stone from heaven and aswad is black in arabic and sang is stone in persian, if it has anything to do with IDOLS it would have been removed.........common sense

3. nama and yaja how do they make word NAMAZ...... plus NAMAZ is a word used in sub conteinent in arabic its SALAT.

4.When you are in west you will face east and pray ...eg europe or states.

5.No one is circleing around sangey-aswad they are circleing around KABA, and in Islam everything has to be started from right hand side,this will explain anti clock wise.

6.Image .......only GOD is the creator , he creats MEN in his own image, thus its forbidden to create images in Islam.

7.Music is not totally forbid....lack of knowldge.

8.I am a Muslim Allhamdolillah,and beleive me 786 has nothing to do with Islam it is generated in sub continent for what reasons God knows If you find a copy of Quran printed outside of sub continent you will never find anything like 786 on it,even in sub continent there are lots of copies with out that.

9.Muqam-e-Ibrahim is the place where prophet Ibrahim stands and watched KABA built, his feet mark are there thats why its called Muqam-e-Ibrahim and its not in the center of KABA its on a side.

I can copy paste hundreds of articles about names of the idols before islam history of arabia,and the list goes on and on.
I just answered above according to my knowldge.
Just want you to know one thing Islam did not started in sub continent,and if before prophet people of arabia would have been HINDU or followers of shiva the history wouldnt hide it.

just like that article about taj mahal and qutub minar and etc etc why there is always a different story on your side why no one else knows about it.You want to claim whole world no one is stopping you but with some common sense.I know i will get a lot of bashing after this but I think claims should be made on facts not on lies and fantasy.
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Islam is angry child (Corrupted form) of Hinduism

DAMN LIER - DAMN LIES .............. ROOTLESS

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Re: Is Islam angry child (Corrupted form) of Hinduism?

Rahul Anna, Cool down,First go and study your religion correctly then come and discuss about other religions.I think you copied it from some of those funny sites which are maintained by saffron people for whom every building was a temple in past.

786 has nothing to do with Islam, I don't know where this number came up from and moreever only those people without knowledge from subcontinent use this number.

Being a muslim by birth i never heard the name of "Umar-Bin-E-Hassham ".
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Re: Is Islam angry child (Corrupted form) of Hinduism?

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Islam is angry child (Corrupted form) of Hinduism





1) Muhammad destroyed all 360 idols, but even he could not summon the courage to completely obliterate the Shivling (Lord Shiva's sacred stone symbol) in the Kaaba . He entered the temple and kissed the black stone. The Shivling was so sacred that the man who so detested idol- worship ended up kissing the largest idol in the Kaaba. Later his followers in a fit of piety broke the Shivling and then out of remorse repatched it together again. Today it lies broken at seven places and held together by a silver band studded with silver nails, bearing the name "Sangey Aswad" which came from the Sanskrit Ashwet meaning non-white or black stone.

Actually, the Kaaba does not represent a shivalinga....but a "YONI" aka "VAGINA"....look at it again....it looks similar to what you get to see if you stretch the outer lips of vagina laterally
Therefore, from visualization Kaaba is a "shakti peeth"

Ancient persian language had a few words of Sanskrit origin....for e.g. Soma (moon) is Homa in Persian....Asura is Ahura (Ahura Mazd, God of Zoroastrians) and few others that I can't recollect. Actually Devas are bad guys and Asuras are good guys in Zoroastrian belief

Arabic language does not have the alphabet "V" (persian does) so you see "W" in Aswad
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why does it have to be a 'child of hinduism' for it to be corrupted?
Can't be be one on it's own, infact hasn't it already been one,
since day one it was founded.
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Almost close to 100,000 Indonesians have perished due to tsunami tragedy ... all Muslims. US, Australia, Europe and even poor country such as India has donated sum totaling hundreds of millions nd rushed in to help poor victims.

Yet, not a single oil rich Arab country has come forward to help ... never mind Hindus, Buddhists or Christians ... not even fellow Muslims in Indonesia!
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Almost close to 100,000 Indonesians have perished due to tsunami tragedy ... all Muslims. US, Australia, Europe and even poor country such as India has donated sum totaling hundreds of millions nd rushed in to help poor victims.

Yet, not a single oil rich Arab country has come forward to help ... never mind Hindus, Buddhists or Christians ... not even fellow Muslims in Indonesia!

Tantric, Malaysia and Saudis were the first to arrive in indonesia to help those victims.Of course they don't advertize their relief efforts because it is not recommended in Islam to advertise our good deeds.
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