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Old September 19th, 2005, 11:45 PM
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14 Indian soldiers killed in Manipur


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ws/1236395.cms

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IMPHAL: Separatist guerrillas killed 14 soldiers in an ambush on an army patrol in Manipur, a military official said, one of the biggest attacks in the remote northeastern state in recent years.

The ambush took place on Monday night in Bishenpur, a hilly and forested area some 40 km south of Imphal, the capital of the tiny state where more than a dozen militant groups are fighting for independence.

About 20 guerrillas from the underground Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL), which is fighting for Manipur's secession from India, opened fire and hurled grenades on the patrol party, the official said. Three soldiers were wounded.

"The attack has been a severe blow to the security forces," he said on Tuesday. The turbulent northeast is home to more than two dozen insurgent outfits and at least 200 ethnic and tribal communities.

The insurgent groups accuse New Delhi of plundering the natural resources of the region and neglecting the local economy.



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TOI had the headline "Mumbai's Deepa Bar owner funded films " and this news was enclosed in a small font 10 block of news on the side......maybe they didn't have enough sleaze on this news to put this as headline.....

The other thing, when we have the CIJWS located in Eastern India, why aren't we implementing their training into getting after these rebels....besides dirty politics, any ideas?
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whats this i see at bottom of above post:

"Last edited by echarcha : Today at 12:56 AM."

why was dawizard's post edited by cha pai?
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whats this i see at bottom of above post:

"Last edited by echarcha : Today at 12:56 AM."

why was dawizard's post edited by cha pai?
Formatting for proper fonts for the headline! Why? Any problem?
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Re: 14 Indian soldiers killed in Manipur

This is one of the reasons that cause me to hesitate when asked "are you proud of your country"...

Now don't get me wrong, but I will be really really proud of my country when we start treating our soldiers as human beings.
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Re: 14 Indian soldiers killed in Manipur

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Formatting for proper fonts for the headline! Why? Any problem?

no problem senor, I am just not clear on this formatting of headlines...I thought i made it big n bold?? what did you change in it??
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no prob cha pai, i thought dawizard had posted objectinable stuff and hence you had to moderate over this moderator!
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This is one of the reasons that cause me to hesitate when asked "are you proud of your country"...

Now don't get me wrong, but I will be really really proud of my country when we start treating our soldiers as human beings.
come on man. soldiers know the risk not that i am justifying this unfortunate incident. i agree we need to have a concrete policy when tackling rebels. i already think we made some progress regarding these NE rebels.

now, the centre has to make a concrete policy against naxals also. some time back, AP govt. tried peace talks with those commies bast*rds but didnt work, infact it made the situation worse and got the cops confused.!

so i say lets go get those bast*rds. maybe we need a new paramilitary division exclusively to tackle naxals just like Rashtriya Rifles (although it operates under army command, it technically is a paramilitary force and does amazing job in kashmir).

presently, there some anti-naxal units in different state police like Greyhounds of AP Police ( ) which is a very good unit with lots of anti-naxal combat experience. so it would be best if the centre steps in and gets together all such police divisions before this naxal problem becomes nationwide.
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some info about this Greyhound division of AP Police:

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1. What is greyhounds?

(A) Greyhounds is a Commando Force of A.P.Police.

2. When was greyhounds raised?

(A) Raised in the year 1989.

3. Is there any organisation named Greyhounds in the world?

Yes, An American Transport Organisation is also named as Greyhounds.

4. What are the services of Greyhounds?
* To combat and control left wing extremism
* To deal with grave L & O situations
* To deal with emergencies during natural disasters
5. Is there direct recruitment to Greyhounds?

All Officers and men are drawn on deputation from various organisations of A.P. Police.

6. What are the Ranks of Police Officers in Greyhounds?

In Greyhounds Officers of all ranks from PC to IGP are working.

7. What are the special skills of Greyhounds Compared to general police personnel?

(A) Greyhounds is a commando force and they are imparted specialised training in fields craft and weapons handling. More emphasis is given to developing high standard of physical fitness and mental alertness.

8. What is the major achievement of Greyhounds apart from the main function?

During 1996 Greyhounds did commendable job in assisting the local administration in coastal dists. Of A.P. which were devasted by a severe cyclone. (b) In August 2000, did an exceptional job when Hyderabad city was in undated by unprecedented floods. The Greyhounds personnel were pressed into service in different parts of the city for evacuation and rescue of people.

9. How Greyhounds is useful to other states apart from A.P.

Greyhounds started to give commando training since June 2000 to Police Personnel from other states of Maharastra, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar, Chathisgharh, Jarkhand, Orissa and West Bengal.

10. How the Greyhounds Commando feel while working in Greyhounds.

Greyhounds is maintained as a youthful force by drawing personnel from various departments of A.P.Police for a fixed tenure .The Greyhounds personnel achieve high job satisfaction as the tasks are challenging and as they serve the Nation in general and A.P. State in particulars.

http://www.aponline.gov.in/apportal/...2&category=Faq
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come on man. soldiers know the risk not that i am justifying this unfortunate incident. i agree we need to have a concrete policy when tackling rebels. i already think we made some progress regarding these NE rebels.
I am not saying that the soldiers are cheated into taking up their jobs (maybe they are, but that is another topic ). What I was saying was that when a soldier dies how much political support does he/she get or even public sympathy?

What happened when our soldiers were tortured and killed in Pukistan or Beggardesh? Where were all the morchas and strikes that we normally put up with for all trivial issues? The death of a single soldier should be national headlines, but this hardly happens. Why?

Is it because mostly people from lower economic classes sign up? And their death has no value? is not news?

Our country is based on freedom/independence. We fought for it, we celebrate it, but do we honor the people who help us keep it?

Anyway, as I was typing this up, I suddenly remember a song that used to be played with a small documentary about flowers. It was sung by Bhupen Hazarika and asks us to tribute flowers to soldiers and nothing else. Do you guys remember it?
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Old September 20th, 2005, 09:23 AM
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see this TOI report was wrong:


Last Updated: Tuesday, 20 September 2005, 09:59 GMT 10:59 UK

Ambush kills nine Indian soldiers

At least nine soldiers and six rebels have been killed in a spurt of violence in India's north-eastern state of Manipur, security forces say.

The soldiers were killed in two separate ambushes.

Meanwhile, six rebels were killed in factional fighting between two groups claiming to represent the interests of the Zomi tribe in southern Manipur.

The Indian army has been carrying out extensive counter-insurgency operations in the state since early this year.

Soldiers from the elite Gorkha Rifles regiment were clearing a road for troop movement at Ngareyan, 35 km from state capital Imphal, when they came under attack from rebels of the Manipur People's Liberation Front (MPLF).

Indian army spokesman Lt Col SD Goswami told the BBC: "In areas dominated by rebels, military patrols drive through and allow other vehicles to pass only if the rebels have not showed up to challenge them."

Earlier reports suggesting that 14 soldiers had died in this incident have proved to be incorrect.

The MPLF - an umbrella organisation of three leading separatist groups in Manipur - claimed responsibility for this attack, and another at Jirghat on the border of Assam state.

One soldier was killed in the second attack.

Factional fighting

Six rebels of the Zomi Revolutionary Front (ZRF) were killed in a clash with activists of the Zomi Revolutionary Army (ZRA) in Churanchandpur district. One ZRA activist was also injured, police say.

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A special law gives the Indian army extensive powers in the north-east
Both groups claim to represent the interests of the Zomi, a tribe in southern Manipur.

The ZRA has agreed to suspend hostile operations against the Indian army, but the other group says it wants to fight on.

More than 10 armed insurgent groups are active in Manipur.

Most of these groups represent the state's majority Hindu Meitei people, but others represent tribes such as the Nagas, Kukis and Zomis.

Manipur became a fully fledged Indian state in 1972, but unrest has simmered since then over the nature of the remote state's relationship with the central Indian government.

Last summer bitter anti-army protests erupted in the state after the death of a young women arrested by paramilitary forces on suspicion of helping insurgents.

The protests were accompanied by demands for the repeal of the Armed Forces Special Powers Act which gives the army in north-east India sweeping powers to deal with insurgents.

Human rights groups such as Amnesty International say the law has allowed the armed forces to commit human rights abuses with impunity.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4263152.stm

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some info about this Greyhound division of AP Police:

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(A) Greyhounds is a Commando Force of A.P.Police.
Greyhounds are racing dogs...I mean they can run FAST...but can they tackle a wolf? I doubt it

So, what to expect of these AP Greyhound commandos?....maybe they can run like crazy for their dear lives

A good name for commando groups should be wolves or hyenas as both of these animals are fearless and carry out concerted attacks in a group.....even tiger and cheetah abandon their meals when hyenas appear
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Re: 14 Indian soldiers killed in Manipur

What's going on Manipur?

Are these Islamic terrorists as well?

What's their beef that they want to separate from India?

Someone enlighten me please.
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