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Old February 12th, 2009, 05:24 PM
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Pakistan: Mumbai attacks were planned here
First admission; Suspects, including alleged ringleaders, in custody
Finally Pakistan admits they did it!

Malik Rehman, head of Pakistan's Interior Ministry, said six people have been arrested in connection with the Mumbai attacks.


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ISLAMABAD - Pakistan acknowledged the Mumbai attacks were partly plotted on its soil and announced criminal proceedings against eight suspects, including three alleged ringleaders, in a sign it is heeding U.S. and Indian demands to punish those responsible for the deaths of 164 people.

India called Thursday's announcement a "positive development" and the news was welcomed by Washington, which had feared tensions the attacks triggered between the nuclear-armed neighbors would distract Pakistan from its struggle against the Taliban and al-Qaida.

"I want to assure the international community, I want to assure all those who have been victims of terrorism, that we mean business," Interior Ministry chief Rehman Malik said at a news conference, while holding up a copy of the findings that were later handed over to India.

Analysts said the admission of a link to its citizens meant Pakistan was no longer "in denial," but noted the U.S. and India would still push for convictions against the plotters and look for evidence that Islamabad had dismantled anti-India militant groups it once cultivated as proxy armies against its giant neighbor.

India and Pakistan have fought three wars since 1947, creating a poisonous legacy that meant it was difficult for Pakistan's shaky civilian government to acknowledge Indian, U.S. and British allegations that its citizens were involved in the attacks without looking like it was caving in to its old foe.

New Delhi says the 10 gunmen — only one of whom was captured alive — were Pakistanis and that their handlers in Pakistan kept in touch with them by phone during the three-day assault on 10 sites including two five-star hotels and a Jewish center.

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Indian officials have also accused Pakistani intelligence agents of involvement in the attacks — a charge denied by Islamabad, which had been working to improve ties with New Delhi before the strikes.

Malik said Pakistani investigators had determined three boats were used by the attackers to sail from southern Pakistan to India. He said investigators had busted two hide-outs of the suspects.

He said other leads pointed to Europe and the United States and Pakistan would ask the FBI for help.

Detectives traced an engine recovered from one of the boats to a shop in the southern Pakistani port city of Karachi. Malik said the shopkeeper provided the phone number of the buyer, which led to a bank account in the name of Hammad Amin Sadiq.

Malik said authorities arrested Sadiq and obtained from him information that led them to two "hide-outs of the terrorists," one in Karachi and one about two hours drive away. He described Sadiq as "the main operator," but didn't elaborate.

"Some part of the conspiracy has taken place in Pakistan and ... according to the available information, most of them (the suspects) are in our custody," he said, without saying where else the attacks could have been planned.

One suspect, Javed Iqbal, had been "lured" back from Barcelona, Spain, where he had been living, and was now in Pakistani custody. While in Spain, Iqbal had arranged Internet telephone accounts used in the attacks and bills had been paid in Italy, Malik said.

India has blamed the attack on Lashkar-e-Taiba, an Islamist militant group widely believed created by Pakistani intelligence agencies in the 1980s to fight India rule in the divided Kashmir region, the trigger for two of the wars between the countries.

Ring leaders arrested
Pakistani officials have already said they arrested two alleged leaders of the group, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi and Zarrar Shah, who have been publicly accused by India of masterminding the attacks. Malik said criminal cases had been registered against those four men and four other suspects — all Pakistani citizens — on charges of "abetting, conspiracy and facilitation" of a terrorist act. It was not immediately clear when they would be presented in court.

Malik reiterated Pakistani requests that India provide more evidence to help secure a conviction.

"Let us work for it together because we want these culprits to be brought to justice," he said.


Malik said Pakistan was sending 30 questions to India about the attacks. Among the additional information sought are the fingerprints of the 10 gunmen, the DNA of the lone survivor and details of intercepted phone conversations between the militants and their handlers.

In a statement, India's Foreign Ministry said it would examine Pakistan's investigation report and "share whatever we can" with authorities there.

Malik said the suspects also used a digital teleconferencing system whose service provider is based in Houston, Texas, while a satellite phone used by the attackers was issued in a "Middle Eastern country," he said, giving no more details.

U.S. State Department spokesman Robert Wood said the arrests showed "Pakistan is serious about doing what it can to deal with the people who may have perpetrated these attacks."

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At last diplomatic pressures worked....... Now it is time they owned the responsibility to clean up the mess too... I always felt that this was the weakest paki govt and could be nailed without war.
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Don't get excited. pakis are smart,now they have accepted Obama's pressure,saved ISI and Lashkar and now they will show their helpness to the World that all these Lashkar elements Pakistan ha sto become unwilling Host becaus eof Kashmir issue . So India should also accept some pressure from Obama and this goes on.

India did mistake,like in 2002 we should have called our Diplomats,stopped train,usage of air space etc. Now US pressure is visible to work in South Asia and same will be applied to India.
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Don't get excited. pakis are smart,now they have accepted Obama's pressure,saved ISI and Lashkar and now they will show their helpness to the World that all these Lashkar elements Pakistan ha sto become unwilling Host becaus eof Kashmir issue . So India should also accept some pressure from Obama and this goes on.

India did mistake,like in 2002 we should have called our Diplomats,stopped train,usage of air space etc. Now US pressure is visible to work in South Asia and same will be applied to India.
I agree that somehow Pakistan wants to be a 'good boy' in front of the School Principal 'USA' and now point the finger at India.
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Don't get excited. pakis are smart,now they have accepted Obama's pressure,saved ISI and Lashkar and now they will show their helpness to the World that all these Lashkar elements Pakistan ha sto become unwilling Host becaus eof Kashmir issue . So India should also accept some pressure from Obama and this goes on.

India did mistake,like in 2002 we should have called our Diplomats,stopped train,usage of air space etc. Now US pressure is visible to work in South Asia and same will be applied to India.
by the way, the spl envoy was only named to pukistan and afganistan. The US knows pressure with India will not yield results and we have resisted Kashmir pressure for 60 years. Also it's a good thing India is engaging US on a lot of business deals like China for example nuke deal, arms desl, this'll make sure that US will stay in line and will not unnecessary do kida. Look at China they have enough foothold that US just pays lip service to China's atrocities. India is also doing the same thing, get enuf business deals, get more lobbying power.
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now what... will they hand over the suspects to India? .... no way!
Will they award them life term in prison? .........no way!
Will they help india in case of 'D' company......no way!

I think the best way is to stop all trades as suggested earlier and concentrate on intruders and cross-country phone conversations.
Sooner or later Pakis will be bombed by USA anyway.
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I don't see anything to get excited with this.

This is like : "Hua humare yaha plan, kya ukhad loge".
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Its a smart plan by Pakistan. India was putting lot of diplomatic pressure - whatever that means. US was asking Pakistan to do something and also bombing the FATA region using pilotless drone planes.

Just now Poland also made serious noise and allegations over beheading of their citizen in Pakistan.

So Pakistan is now saying "Yes it was planned on our soil". The Pakistani government, lifting a page from Musharraf's strategy book, has declared that they are taking action against terrorists but are quite helpless to tackle it all. Infact they are trying to create a position of sympathy for themselves. Its like 'Teacher I want to do my studies but these bullies in class dont let me'.

The other reality is that Pakistani military - who also controls the ISI - is not willing to tackle terrorists. The real power is with the military. The Generals and Majors in the army dont want 'civilians' to take control completely. Pakistani army is definitely involved in the drug trade which allows drugs from Afghanistan to travel to the West via Pakistan. They dont want to give all of it up. They have kept the people and the world busy by raising the bogeyman of Kashmir!

Indian govt. might think that their diplomatic maneuvers succeeded and so Pakistan fessed up. But they are wrong. I am sure Pranab Mukherjee knows how two-faced Pakistan is.
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Its a smart plan by Pakistan. India was putting lot of diplomatic pressure - whatever that means. US was asking Pakistan to do something and also bombing the FATA region using pilotless drone planes.

Just now Poland also made serious noise and allegations over beheading of their citizen in Pakistan.

So Pakistan is now saying "Yes it was planned on our soil". The Pakistani government, lifting a page from Musharraf's strategy book, has declared that they are taking action against terrorists but are quite helpless to tackle it all. Infact they are trying to create a position of sympathy for themselves. Its like 'Teacher I want to do my studies but these bullies in class dont let me'.

The other reality is that Pakistani military - who also controls the ISI - is not willing to tackle terrorists. The real power is with the military. The Generals and Majors in the army dont want 'civilians' to take control completely. Pakistani army is definitely involved in the drug trade which allows drugs from Afghanistan to travel to the West via Pakistan. They dont want to give all of it up. They have kept the people and the world busy by raising the bogeyman of Kashmir!

Indian govt. might think that their diplomatic maneuvers succeeded and so Pakistan fessed up. But they are wrong. I am sure Pranab Mukherjee knows how two-faced Pakistan is.
I think there is enough awareness worldwide what games Pukes are playing. Its gone to such an extent that worldwide press and govts are seeing through this and calling it bluff. we are seeing more and more evidence of this from the mainstream media.

It's another question if this will succeed. First look at it, when the mumbai attacks happened, Zardari decided to send the ISI chief to India, then he was mothballed by the military folks. Sunsequently Zardari was forced to go back and forth on his promises, making him look weak, look a fool, wilting under US and Indian pressure. The military is trying slowly to set him for a failure, so that they can grab power at the right time.

I think what the US doing is supporting the Zardari govt and threatening the military not to destabilize the govt, by a mix of sanctions, coercion and putting the pukes on "terror list". Let's see how all this plays out!
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