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Old June 13th, 2011, 08:14 AM
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Mango Aunty might not be in a position to publicly start chanting hymns(praying) to give you your answer so can I pray and tell you??

He is supposed to go camp at the dalit-anandani complex and start eating everything cooked by the dalit kids including the uneaten mid day meals till the dalit children get tired of cooking and start screaming in fear at the thought of having to cook for anyone...
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Ahem ... can Baba Ramdev and Anna Hazare focus on this too or take this issue up? I get it that political parties will never want 'caste' to go away, but these 'social change workers' can work on this issue too, or rather as their first issue before all else!

And what kind of shit is this with our folks? Kids are getting free meals, and their parents want to pollute their minds with 'caste' and crap?
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OK..,great but I still don't see what you want Rahul to do here. Do you want him to attend the parliament and ask more questions? Great, good ide. But how is he supposed to convince these people that its OK to eat food prepared by Dalits?

Adminji, this question is to you as well. How is Anna or anyone for that matter related to these people refusing to eat food cooked by Dalits?
Can anyone tell me why tf they should eat food cooked by dalits It is their belief that if they eat such food they will go to hell. Why should they eat it then

In a (pc) world, where you should respect everyone's beliefs... where a christian can send you to hell for not believing in his Christ (and that is alright)... where a terrorist can kill you for his god (and that is alright)... where a muslim woman can wear a burkah and get a driving license (and that is alright)... where a sikh can carry a small knife on board a plane (and that is alright)... then why can't a hindu-brahmin refuse to eat food created by a lower caste

Why is everyone's belief accepted as rightful... but not a hindu's
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Can anyone tell me why tf they should eat food cooked by dalits
because if you dont eat the food cooked by them...they will not become cooks...if they dont become cooks...they will become rocket scientists/pilots ...if they become rocket scientists/pilots, if they become you will be their passenger...if you will be their passenger, they will bring their airhostesses, if they will bring their airhostesses, then they will provide the inflight entertainment as well as the in flight food...so if you want to fly in the rocket as a passenger with lakshmi prvati lookalike airhostesses, then you will eat their food in the flight...if you want to fly the rocket instead, and have anushka SHARMA type airhostesses, then you will eat it in school itself not leving the vendatta till later...
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Old June 13th, 2011, 09:51 AM
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because if you dont eat the food cooked by them...they will not become cooks...if they dont become cooks...they will become rocket scientists/pilots ...if they become rocket scientists/pilots, if they become you will be their passenger...if you will be their passenger, they will bring their airhostesses, if they will bring their airhostesses, then they will provide the inflight entertainment as well as the in flight food...so if you want to fly in the rocket as a passenger with lakshmi prvati lookalike airhostesses, then you will eat their food in the flight...if you want to fly the rocket instead, and have anushka SHARMA type airhostesses, then you will eat it in school itself not leving the vendatta till later...


Your statement above... well, not all of it but just the first few lines... should become the anthem for India. What tf matters if the brahmins do not want to eat a dalit's food or enter his home or walk on the same road that s/he walked on. It is her/her prerogative. As long as they follow the law of the land, kudos to them.

Why doesn't the dalit focus on his/her ability... and not depend on throwaways or handouts from the bramin or higher caste They can become rocket scientists/pilots... if they have the heart and the dedication to work.
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OK..,great but I still don't see what you want Rahul to do here. Do you want him to attend the parliament and ask more questions? Great, good ide. But how is he supposed to convince these people that its OK to eat food prepared by Dalits?

Adminji, this question is to you as well. How is Anna or anyone for that matter related to these people refusing to eat food cooked by Dalits?
You did not get my first post. I am asking of this Baba and Hazare that instead of going after a big issue like corruption why not tackle a more important issue like caste?

Why are they not looking at reforms in reservation policy and reservation for women in elected offices?

Corruption is a good media gimmick. Every arm chair general can participate via the internet and candle light vigil. Its all feel good when you try to tackle a generic issue like corruption. But no one wants to tackle 'reservations' and the effects it has on the entire system.

Then there is the issue of infrastructure development. And then you have issues like land acquisition by the government for industrial parks. What about that? Those are really important issues which affect the farmer and poor farm laborer.

Its easy to sit on a stage, declare you are on a fast and give sound bites to the media about 'black money' and 'anti corruption'.
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They can become rocket scientists/pilots... if they have the heart and the dedication to work.

you bloody brahmins gave the heart to the sikhs and rajputs...gave the beauty to the rajputs/khatris/papas(sikhs from pakistan/afghanistan etc.)...money to the baniyas and marwaris...kept the brains for yourseves...and what did you give to th dalit's???mayawati, rabri devi, mulayam singh and all the dead buffalloes and the smoke dried feces to live with???

heart kahaan se aayegaa...saara heart to jeet IAF and family loot ke le gayi...
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you bloody brahmins gave the heart to the sikhs and rajputs...gave the beauty to the rajputs/khatris/papas(sikhs from pakistan/afghanistan etc.)...money to the baniyas and marwaris...kept the brains for yourseves...and what did you give to th dalit's???mayawati, rabri devi, mulayam singh and all the dead buffalloes and the smoke dried feces to live with???

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if they have the heart and the dedication to work.

Another reason for the absence of the heart is after your generations of tyranny, BABA BHEEMJI came to the rescue...so after that...dalits hve always been fitted with a BABA BHEEM RAO PULSEBEAT PACECONTROLLER...

no more hearts and minds and thighs and arms and manu and tanu bullshit for them...
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you bloody brahmins gave the heart to the sikhs and rajputs...gave the beauty to the rajputs/khatris/papas(sikhs from pakistan/afghanistan etc.)...money to the baniyas and marwaris...kept the brains for yourseves...and what did you give to th dalit's???mayawati, rabri devi, mulayam singh and all the dead buffalloes and the smoke dried feces to live with???

heart kahaan se aayegaa...saara heart to jeet IAF and family loot ke le gayi...
Har caste level ko ek body part diya gaya. The dalits were assigned the most important body-part. All their work was to make sure that this most important bodypart was kept clean... and to clean all areas where this most important bodypart was used. Bas itna sa hi. And for this they hate themselves... and everybody
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Har caste level ko ek body part diya gaya. The dalits were assigned the most important body-part. All their work was to make sure that this most important bodypart was kept clean... and to clean all areas where this most important bodypart was used. Bas itna sa hi. And for this they hate themselves... and everybody
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Can anyone tell me why tf they should eat food cooked by dalits It is their belief that if they eat such food they will go to hell. Why should they eat it then

Why is everyone's belief accepted as rightful... but not a hindu's
Sane, my response was also similar to yours. Yes, if they dont want to eat food cooked by Dalits...let them not. Let them bring their own lunch.
I am just saying that for every issue we dont want to to drag the politicians.

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You did not get my first post. I am asking of this Baba and Hazare that instead of going after a big issue like corruption why not tackle a more important issue like caste?

Why are they not looking at reforms in reservation policy and reservation for women in elected offices?

Corruption is a good media gimmick. Every arm chair general can participate via the internet and candle light vigil. Its all feel good when you try to tackle a generic issue like corruption. But no one wants to tackle 'reservations' and the effects it has on the entire system.

Then there is the issue of infrastructure development. And then you have issues like land acquisition by the government for industrial parks. What about that? Those are really important issues which affect the farmer and poor farm laborer.

Its easy to sit on a stage, declare you are on a fast and give sound bites to the media about 'black money' and 'anti corruption'.
Corruption is a very wide topic adminji and unless we do something specific, I also doubt if this would bring forth any change in...in anything/anyone.

Having said this, the current issue is more to do with cultural beliefs than political.
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knowingly dalito ke haath se bana khana khane se achchha hai bhookhe mar jayen.

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It was not long back that in the United States people of colour received discriminatory treatment as in, for example, you couldn't patronize the same restaurants or beaches as whites, and this is only a small example. Perhaps if you were personally and repeatedly subjected to this kind of treatment, you might then feel the sting? Racial attitudes have changed enormously in the USA over the last few decades, not just in law but also socially.

On the other hand, there are many people like you in India. There was an article some time back on the two-tumbler system in a small town in Tamil Nadu, where the owner served the Dalit customers in a different set of vessels. I am sure he thought they were polluting.

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Corruption is a very wide topic adminji and unless we do something specific, I also doubt if this would bring forth any change in...in anything/anyone.

Having said this, the current issue is more to do with cultural beliefs than political.
Parijatka tai,

Caste is social issue, yes, but there are reservation quotas created as law by the government. So why not tackle those and seek reform. In many states the reservations have gone above 60 to 70 percent. What about reforming this? Why not demand an overhaul of the reservation provision written by Ambedkar into the Constitution?

Dont you agree that reservations only kill meritocracy and create mediocrity?
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Dont you agree that reservations only kill meritocracy and create mediocrity?
I agree. I think the reservations have lost its purpose by now. In olden days, all this reservation etc were relevant to make education look more appealing than child labor etc to many classes (not just Dalits). For that matter even midday meals were a part of the program where parents are encouraged to send their kids to school where the school takes care of at least 1 meal.
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