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Old December 3rd, 2015, 09:07 AM
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Non stop immigration from special countries and political correctness gives US taste of terror, again!

Non stop immigration from special countries and political correctness gives US taste of terror, again!


As if 9/11 was not a lesson enough, the US has now, sadly, tasted terror once again! History is replete with so many examples of what happens when you let the enemy in your house, but the political correctness and foolish open door policies of the West have now affected the US, again!!

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Pakistani-origin couple, parents of a six-month old daughter, carried out the massacre that killed 14 and injured 17 at a Christmas party in California, authorities said on Tuesday, after police shot dead the duo at the end of a manhunt just hours after the carnage.

The suspects were identified as Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, who San Bernardino police chief Jarrod Burguan said were either married or engaged. Farook is Chicago-born US citizen whose parents emigrated from Pakistan, and he is said to have met Malik, also of Pakistani origin, in Saudi Arabia through an online dating service two years ago.

The couple left their six-month old daughter with Farook's mother on the morning of the attack saying they had a doctor's appointment. Instead, authorities said, they attacked a regional center for people with disabilities close to where Farooq, who was an environmental inspector with the local country, worked for nearly five years.
Some reports spoke of Farooq storming out of the party after an argument in the morning before returning with his spouse for the murderous spree. One co-worker said Farooq had left his coat draped over a chair on which he sat.

But officials said the couple was dressed in tactical gear and carrying assault rifles, suggesting it was a pre-meditated attack and they came prepared. There were also reports that they planted explosives at the site and police were attacked with pipe bombs during the chase that ended with the couple being shot dead, their SUV punctured with scores of bullets from a police phalanx that surrounded them a few miles from the scene of the massacre.
Authorities did not rule out terrorism, saying the level of preparation by the couple is among the factors investigators will weigh as they examine a motive for the attack.

The couple's connection to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, two countries considered the fount of extremist ideology and a breeding ground for terrorism, also raised red flags although co-workers said nothing on their behavior suggested they had turned radical.

From the very beginning, the San Bernardino attack had unusual elements that suggested it was different from the workaday gun violence (355 mass shooting in 334 days this year alone) that has shamed and embarrassed a trigger-happy America.

First up, most mass shootings in America are perpetrated by lone gunmen; there have been only two shootings in the past decade attributed to teams. The fact that this incident involved multiple shooters (initial reports spoke of three gunmen) who wore body armor and face-masks, and had a getaway vehicle, suggested an unusual attack.

Still, there was a reluctance to call it out differently given that image of a lonewolf, mentally-ill white gunman has become so routine to the extent is somewhat of a caricature.
In fact, in the hours after the attack, social media was at its mocking best, echoing the general sentiment about Americans all too ready to paint Muslims with the terror brush while refusing to acknowledge domestic, hate-driven gun violence as terrorism. "I hope we find out the color of the suspects' skin soon so we can determine whether this #SanBernadino situation is terrorism," sneered one tweet.

But the apprehension, particularly among Muslims, that the attack could be attributed to Islamist extremists was never far away, given recent developments in Paris and Brussels. "Any idea if the perpetrators were Muslims?" was a question that popped up on Facebook in the hours after the attack. "I hope not," came the reply.
The shock was palpable when it was revealed that it was a young Muslim couple with an infant who perpetrated the attack. The Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) urged people not to jump to conclusions.

"We don't know the motives. Is it work, race-related, is it mental illness, is it extreme ideology? At this point, it's really unknown to us and at this point it's too soon to speculate," said Hussam Ayloush, CAIR's executive director in Los Angeles, who organized a news conference with the slain couple's brother-in-law Farhan Khan.
Khan himself was mystified. "I have no idea why would he do something like this," he said. "I have absolutely no idea. I am in shock myself."

Co-workers who spoke to the local media said Farook was reserved, but did not strike them as a fanatic or display any unusual behavior or air extremist political views. Neighbors in the suburb of Redlands said the couple appeared happy and seemed to be living the "American dream."
In New York, his father told the Daily News that his son was very religious and would go to work and return home for prayer, but he had no idea about the attack or its motive. Other reports said, Farook, who grew up in Riverside, California, had a rough childhood between two squabbling parents who subsequently divorced.
Federal authorities later said that the two assault rifles and two handguns used in the carnage were purchased legally, but they didn't say how and when they got into the hands of the two shooters.

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The names sound Pak, but remember the news guys saying he is from Qatar.
The guy sitting next to me broke this out and I thought it was another of those shootings for the gun control debate.
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Inside the country we are hit by AK and SRK, outside the country we are going to be affected by the backlash because of mistaken identities. Indians, Pakistanis and middle eastern can look very alike to a gora uncle and untie. We are being fcked from both sides for no fault of ours.

If those who want to leave the country actually left the country, that would make room for me to return to my country where I can live with no fear or stigma and let these people sort out their gig.
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details about the mofos.. who has a frikkin bomb lab in the house, a married couple with a 6 month old?

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They were a married couple who left their baby with grandma while they carried out the deadliest mass shooting in the U.S. since the December 2012 rampage at Sandy Hook.

Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik -- one, a U.S. citizen and the other, a permanent resident -- massacred 14 people at a holiday party at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California.

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Farook, 28, and Malik, 27, were married for two years.

He met Malik online and met her in person when he went to Saudi Arabia to perform the Hajj pilgrimage in 2013. She later came to the U.S. on a fiance visa and became a legal permanent resident.


This image of Syed Rizwan Farook appears on the dating site iMilap.com.. i-Milaap ..

The couple left their 6-month-old girl with Farook's mother Wednesday and said they had a doctor's appointment.

The grandmother became concerned when she saw reports of the shooting and couldn't reach Farook.

Farook, an American citizen, was an environmental health specialist with the San Bernardino County health department, which was hosting the holiday party at the Inland Regional Center where the attack took place.

He had been there five years. Records list a man with his name and title who worked at the agency and made $53,000 in 2013.

He graduated from California State University, San Bernardino, with a degree in environmental health in 2010.

They had a bomb lab in their townhouse

Inside the garage of the couple's rented townhouse, authorities found 12 pipe bomb-type devices and hundreds of tools, many of which could be used to make improvised explosives.

Authorities also found thousands of round of ammunition.
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This image of Syed Rizwan Farook appears on the dating site iMilap.com.. i-Milaap ..
Maybe Kejri (AAP) is involved ???
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iMilap: An Indian matrimonial site for people with disabilities

Do pukis use Indian matrimonial sites??

Were these folks disabled??
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iMilap: An Indian matrimonial site for people with disabilities

Do pukis use Indian matrimonial sites??

Were these folks disabled??
Differently abled, certainly. An ordinary joe won't be able to pick up a machine gun and kill people in cold blood
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Differently abled, certainly. An ordinary joe won't be able to pick up a machine gun and kill people in cold blood
Common Muslim Joe is not ordinary ..

Remember the good old adage .. A muslim is only as moderate as the distance he places himself from the bomb.

This differently abled sob was making bombs at home.
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Inside the country we are hit by AK and SRK, outside the country we are going to be affected by the backlash because of mistaken identities. Indians, Pakistanis and middle eastern can look very alike to a gora uncle and untie. We are being fcked from both sides for no fault of ours.

If those who want to leave the country actually left the country, that would make room for me to return to my country where I can live with no fear or stigma and let these people sort out their gig.
There was a backlash in London after 7/7. A couple of my desi colleagues were accosted by firangs who checked their bags. Anyways, in Umrika, the ignorance of rest of the world could be useful. The fox news was all along calling these guys Arabs.
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Non stop immigration from special countries and political correctness gives US taste of terror, again!


As if 9/11 was not a lesson enough, the US has now, sadly, tasted terror once again! History is replete with so many examples of what happens when you let the enemy in your house, but the political correctness and foolish open door policies of the West have now affected the US, again!!

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TERROR AT HOME: FBI probing San Bernadino massacre as ‘an act of terrorism’; female gunman pledged allegiance to ISIS chief before attack


Three days after a heavily armed Muslim couple who lived in a home investigators described as "an IED factory" burst into a Southern California office building and gunned down 14 people, the FBI finally -- and awkwardly -- acknowledged Friday that it is treating the case as an act of terrorism.

In an unusual and brief address to reporters at which Attorney General Loretta Lynch appeared and questions were not taken, FBI Director James Comey affirmed the bureau's LA office's characterization earlier in the day.

"This is now a federal terrorism investigation," Comey said, alluding to evidence collected from electronic devices and reports that Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik may have been sympathetic to radical terrorist groups prior to the attack. After his comments, Comey asked pool reporters if they had any questions, but the pre-taped event, which was later distributed to media outlets, was cut off abruptly and no questions were permitted.

The director, a Republican appointed in 2013 and a former deputy attorney general under President George W. Bush," did not allude to the Muslim faith of suspects Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik. But in pronouncing it a case of terrorism, he seemed to be stating the obvious while at the same time going farther than President Obama has been willing to go and possibly hinting at some behind-the-scenes dissent. Sources told Fox News Lynch was there to "ensure [Comey] didn't take it too far" in his characterization of the attacks.

On Thursday, in the face of mounting evidence of a terror motive, President Obama refused to rule out an office dispute as the possible motive for the attack. The equivocation stoked outrage among many of Obama's critics, who noted his insistence on labelling as "workplace violence" the 2009 Fort Hood shooting, in which a Muslim Army major killed 13 people and injured another 30 while shouting “Allahu Akbar” and his ongoing refusal to characterize acts of terror as driven by radical interpretations of Islam.

"If you can't come to a conclusion at this point that this was an act of terror, you should find something else to do for a living than being in law enforcement. I mean, you're a moron," former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who led the city during the 9/11 attacks and their aftermath, thundered hours later on Fox News.

Then, on Friday, hours before the FBI announcement, Fox New confirmed that Malik had pledged her allegiance to ISIS as the morning attack began. She and her husband were killed hours later in a shootout with police just two miles away. Those developments confirmed the suspicions of many, and left it obvious that Malik, at least, was driven by radical Islam.

"We are investigating it as an act of terrorism, for good reason," David Bowdich, the assistant FBI director in charge of the Los Angeles office, told reporters in an afternoon news conference before his boss spoke.

Bowdich, who said neither of the two were on law enforcement's radar prior to the attack, cited several factors for the focus on terrorism, including "extensive planning" that went into the attack. The pair attempted to cover up their digital trail, damaging hard drives and other electronic devices, Bowdich said. Investigators did find two cell phones recovered from trash cans near the couple's Redlands home, and recovered evidence of communications with others who are now being investigated.

“They tried to wipe out their digital fingerprints,” he said, adding that digital communications will likely provide further substantiation of the motive, but "it's not a three-day process."

The post by Malik, in which she pledged allegiance to ISIS leader and self-proclaimed “caliph” Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, was confirmed by Facebook official. They said she posted the pledge just before she and Farook stormed a San Bernardino party for his co-workers before escaping. The couple died hours later in a shootout with police, and in the aftermath the 29-year-old Pakistani woman has remained largely a name without a face. No confirmed pictures of her have surfaced, and few details have emerged. The aura of mystery surrounding Malik has given rise to suspicions she may have been the radicalizing force who turned Farook from an aloof county restaurant inspector into her cohort in carnage, an Islamist fanatic capable of murdering co-workers who had embraced him for years.

"Usually it's ISIS supporters trying to radicalize young girls online as they try to find new wives, but this may be the first case I know of where the opposite happened," said Ryan Mauro, a national security analyst for Clarion Project, which tracks international terrorism.

Mauro noted that Farook's older brother, who shares his name, served in the U.S. Navy, which would seem to indicate that Farook's radical leanings did not come from within his own family.

"It is possible that she radicalized him or that suspected terrorists inside America he was communicating with are responsible for the radicalization, which led him to be attracted to a more hardline Salafi girl," Mauro said.

What is known is that Malik met Farook online and that the two became engaged after Farook traveled to Saudi Arabia in September 2013. Malik applied for a K-1 visa at the American embassy in Islamabad in May, 2014 and two months later Farook again traveled to Saudi Arabia, met her there and brought her to the U.S. on a K-1 visa, a 90-day visa given to fiancés planning to marry Americans.

“Tashfeen remains the biggest mystery,” said a leader of the area’s Pakistani-American Muslim community. “She’s the one no one knows anything about and has little to no presence on the Internet or having interacted with others in the Muslim community.”

They were married on Aug. 16, 2014, in nearby Riverside County, Calif. according to their marriage license. The marriage and passage of criminal and national security background checks using FBI and Department of Homeland Security databases resulted in a conditional green card for Malik in July 2015, two months after she gave birth to their baby daughter.

Malik and Farook, an American citizen born in Chicago and raised in Southern California by parents of Pakistani descent, lived with their daughter and his mother, Rafia Farook, in a Redlands, Calif., apartment described by one investigator as an “IED factory” and ammo arsenal.

However, Farook’s mother claimed not to have suspected any potential plots or problems pertaining to her son and daughter-in-law, telling others that the weaponry didn’t raise any eyebrows as he “was always into guns” from a young age and shooting was very much a part of his life.

Attorneys representing Farook's family said at a late afternoon press conference that none of Farook's relatives had any indication he or his wife held extremist views.

Federal officials confirmed that the four guns Malik and Farook carried when they were killed in a shootout Wednesday afternoon, some three hours after storming the San Bernardino social services facility where his department was holding a holiday party, were purchased legally. Law enforcement sources told Fox News that investigators believe the couple's death prevented a second attack Wednesday, though they have not established what the target would have been.

There have been reports Farook had ties to radicals in Pakistan and had a trip made there in recent years, but a source connected to the Pakistani Consulate in Los Angeles told FoxNews.com that he did not possess a Pakistani passport and that there is no record of him applying for a visa to travel to Pakistan through his local consulate. That did not preclude the possibility that he may have entered the country illegally or obtained a visa overseas or elsewhere.

Farook is a third-generation American from a family hailing from Karachi. Sources close to his family insisted that his marriage to Malik was not arranged. He told co-workers, who hosted a baby shower for him and his wife earlier this year, that Malik was a pharmacist. The California Board of Pharmacy has no record of her working as either a pharmacist or a pharmacist’s assistant.

Farook was a devout Muslim who prayed every day and recently memorized the Koran, according to brothers Nizaam and Rahemaan Ali, who attended Dar Al Uloom Al Islamiyah mosque in San Bernardino with Farook. Rahemaan Ali said he last saw Farook three weeks ago, when he abruptly stopped going to the mosque. Ali said Farook seemed happy and his usual self, and the brothers never saw a violent side.

"He never ever talked about killing people or discussed politics, or said that he had problems at work," Rahemaan Ali said. "He always had a smile on his face."

Prior to their marriage, Farook had multiple online dating profiles claiming he was a Sunni Muslim from a “religious but modern family” and that he was “looking for a girl who has the same outlook, wear hijab, but live life to the fullest, be my partner for snowboarding, to go out and eat with friends, go camping, working on cars with me.”

Farook was remembered as reserved by co-workers, who said he had grown his beard out in recent months – often a sign among Muslims of heightened religious devotion. He also had gotten into several heated arguments with a co-worker, Nicholas Thalasinos, about Islam. Thalasinos reportedly questioned whether Farook’s faith was truly a “religion of peace.” He was one of the 14 killed in Wednesday’s attack.

Neither Malik nor Farook had a criminal record, and the couple did not mix with the larger Pakistani-American community, and few people claim to have seen, let alone met, Malik, including neighbors. The Pakistani-American Muslim community leader, who asked that his name not be used, said the community believes is is clear that someone radicalized Farook.

“This event has shaken everyone,” said the source. “The fact that Syed and his wife seemed to be so removed from the community and no one really knows much about him or his wife at all can often be a key indicator something is wrong.”

Fox News Channel's Matthew Dean, Adam Housley and Hollie McKay contributed to this report

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She looks like the average covered "good" momina who has simply taken enough measures to make sure that there is no uncovered meat in front of the cats. I am sure she has misunderstood religion-of-peace or is just another planted mole.
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some sort of system will have to be invented to lessen immigration from special countries without overtly losing political correctness .

that political correctness however is here to stay with us . the USA cant say '' we will block immigration from countries of a certain religion '' . US buys oil from countries practising a certain religion , and anyway there are too many countries practising that religion---so the US will have to tread very gingerly here . it just cant worsen relations with a lot of countries so suddenly .

maybe the checking at points of entry into the US of citizens who come from those special countries must so thorough that they must feel like complaining like shah rukh khan did in 2009 , and dont want to enter US again .
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maybe the checking at points of entry into the US of citizens who come from those special countries must so thorough that they must feel like complaining like shah rukh khan did in 2009 , and dont want to enter US again .
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Here's Hasan Nisar, pakistani saying how muslims are welcome in west but they exploit it

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