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Old September 6th, 2014, 09:16 PM
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That explains it. Now, this is the only one where i have seen allegation of injustice/discrimination supported by actual clear fact (it was your own experience so it helped).

Else, the allegations thrown are more general like 'snatching away the jobs' and from the other side on 'Hyderabad was built by Andhra people'.

I was curious because i wrote EAMCET 9 years before you and i had spent 5 years before that well north of the erstwhile AP. looks like i may not have been elgible. i anyway took another route and so far never need to prove my belonging to any state.

The new Telangana state is anyway still in deep crap because like Kejriwal, KCR has not come out of the agitation mode.
when AP was formed from combining erst while hyderabad state and part of old madras state there was a understanding that andhra folks would get jobs in andhra and telengana folks will get their jobs in telengana, but that was not followed. This was called mulki.

somewhere during late 50's and 60's all telengana folks working in andhra were kicked out but the same was not done for andhra folks in telengana. when telengana people raised up in 60's against the injustice done, there were police shootings, political horse trading and then the matter was brushed under the carpet. After this andhra folks raised up demaning for costal andhra to be made into a separate state at which point as a compromise the mulki rules were removed. The end result was the same as always ending in telengana folks being on loosing side.

Water was also divided according to bachawat tribunal rulings. Projects were built to utilize water by andhra from there share+some more of water. And the only project approved for telengana has been in building phase for the last 40+ years. Let me give out one more fact, during nizams rule telengana had more than 900,000+ hectares of land being irrigated. Due to mishandling of water resources by the AP govt, by 2000 no more than 150,000 hectares of land was being irrigated in telengana. It is said that the funds allocated for irrigation for telengana part were in fact used to maintain the canals that feed projects that irrigated andhra. A whole district in telengana namely adilabad has completely turned in to desert, due to lack of funding for water management due to step child attitude of rulers of AP.

jobs and water were the main reasons why telengana and costal andhra got divided.
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Re: Andhra Pradesh to be split up into Andhra and Telangana!

Old one but .... "Now you have to specify whether you want Hyderabadi Dum Biryani or Telangana .... "
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Old one but .... "Now you have to specify whether you want Hyderabadi Dum Biryani or Telangana .... "
And an old answer. Hyderabad is in Telangana. It will be Hyderabadi Dum Biryani.

Else, Copying and pasting from wiki on Telangana cuisine
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Differences between Telangana and Andhra cuisine

Though many dishes are common, the difference are with cuisines and the method of preparation.
Telangana food can be easily differentiated from Andhra food. In Telangana scallion (spring onions) and coriander seeds are used, which gives a distinctive flavour. Telangana food uses a lot of sesame, which in coastal Andhra is believed to be too heaty. In Telangana, people believe that heating foods like sesame lead to cooling due to perspiration.[4]
In Coastal Andhra kodi vepudu is usually made with an onion gravy, a paste of red Guntur chilis and coconut. In Telangana, tamarind, green chili and spices are used.[5] In Andhra pickles, the oil is not boiled, while boiling oil is a must for Telangana pickles.
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when AP was formed from combining erst while hyderabad state and part of old madras state there was a understanding that andhra folks would get jobs in andhra and telengana folks will get their jobs in telengana, but that was not followed. This was called mulki.
Did that evolve into GO 610.

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somewhere during late 50's and 60's all telengana folks working in andhra were kicked out but the same was not done for andhra folks in telengana. when telengana people raised up in 60's against the injustice done, there were police shootings, political horse trading and then the matter was brushed under the carpet.
Now, i did not hear of any Telangana folks working in Andhra. It is said that Nizam had taught only Urdu to the people (if at all) and they were unable to work elsewhere, at least for clerical and white collar jobs.

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Water was also divided according to bachawat tribunal rulings. Projects were built to utilize water by andhra from there share+some more of water. And the only project approved for telengana has been in building phase for the last 40+ years. Let me give out one more fact, during nizams rule telengana had more than 900,000+ hectares of land being irrigated. Due to mishandling of water resources by the AP govt, by 2000 no more than 150,000 hectares of land was being irrigated in telengana. It is said that the funds allocated for irrigation for telengana part were in fact used to maintain the canals that feed projects that irrigated andhra. A whole district in telengana namely adilabad has completely turned in to desert, due to lack of funding for water management due to step child attitude of rulers of AP.
You mean to say Independent India was worse than Nizam in this respect. But notice one thing. All the areas in Karnataka, maharashtra and then AP under Nizam were backward in the respective states.

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jobs and water were the main reasons why telengana and costal andhra got divided.
Now, you are forgetting Rayalseema here, which is also backward. There has also been this attitude among Andhra people that they are superior to Telanganites.
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Did that evolve into GO 610.



Now, i did not hear of any Telangana folks working in Andhra. It is said that Nizam had taught only Urdu to the people (if at all) and they were unable to work elsewhere, at least for clerical and white collar jobs.



You mean to say Independent India was worse than Nizam in this respect. But notice one thing. All the areas in Karnataka, maharashtra and then AP under Nizam were backward in the respective states.


Now, you are forgetting Rayalseema here, which is also backward. There has also been this attitude among Andhra people that they are superior to Telanganites.
rayalaseema atleast has proper irrigation facilities.

But one thing is that andhra folks are too caste crazy. Andhra would not develop in to a viable economic power unless they get out of caste politics.
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Re: Andhra Pradesh to be split up into Andhra and Telangana!

How about one more split, this time of Seemandhra? due to the proposed new capital city.. Vizag I heard is ready to revolt for not being named the capital.
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In 97,, Hyderabad became an IT hotspot with Babu getting Microsoft and Oracle. Ysr managed to piggyback on it. There was a big question mark on whether KCR, with all his populist schemes would keep if not develop the Tech investments.

But his son, who speaks way better English than a typical cyber coolie has managed to get Apple.

Here is his speech which is doing rounds in FB and Whatsapp.


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