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No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee




NEW DELHI: Amid the ongoing debate over the freedom of expression in the wake of violent clashes in Delhi University's Ramjas College, President Pranab Mukherjee on Thursday said that "there must be space for legitimate criticism and dissent."

"Those in universities must engage in reasoned discussion and debate rather than propagate a culture of unrest. It is tragic to see them caught in the vortex of violence and disquiet," the President said while delivering the 6th KS Rajamony Memorial Lecture on the topic "India@70" on Thursday in Kochi, Kerala.

Asserting that freedom of speech and expression is guaranteed to every Indian by the Constitution, the President said: "There should be no room in India for the intolerant Indian".

Ramjas College had recently witnessed large-scale violence between members of the AISA and the ABVP. The genesis of the clash was an invite to JNU students Umar Khalid and Shehla Rashid to address a seminar on 'Culture of Protests', which was withdrawn by the college authorities following opposition by ABVP.

President Pranab said our premier institutions of higher education are vehicles on which India should propel itself into a knowledge society and added that these temples of learning must resound with creativity and free thinking.

The President also cautioned law makers never to take people for granted. "They (law makers) must focus on the fundamental task of law making and raising of issues of concern to the people. The trust placed by the people in the political system and those elected should not be betrayed," he said.

Talking about violence against women in society, the President said that "when we brutalize a woman, we wound the soul of our civilisation". "The trust placed by the people in the political system and those elected should not be betrayed," he said.

"A sense of national purpose and patriotism alone can lift our nation on to the road of sustained progress and prosperity," he added.

Clashes erupted in Delhi University campus on February 21 when the ABVP forced the cancellation of a seminar at Ramjas College over the participation of a controversial JNU student.
The next day, ABVP activists were blamed for attacking students, teachers and journalists in the campus, triggering widespread condemnation.


Lady Shri Ram College student Gurmehar Kaur then launched a social media campaign against the ABVP, only to face death and rape threats. On Tuesday, she left Delhi for Punjab, saying she was pulling out of the campaign.
While her college teachers, fellow students and family have stood by her, she did not speak to the media on Wednesday at Jalandhar, where the Punjab Police deployed two women constables for her protection.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/57433647.cms
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

Thank God the Congis never made Manmohan the President,atleast we have a President who speaks.
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Thank God the Congis never made Manmohan the President,atleast we have a President who speaks.
This is why he was sidelined to President post. I maintain that Pranab da would have made an excellent PM, but Gandhi dynasty would be finished just like PVN would have ensured. PVN was very much against Sonia Gandhi entering active politics, which is why he was sidelined.
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

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This is why he was sidelined to President post. I maintain that Pranab da would have made an excellent PM, but Gandhi dynasty would be finished just like PVN would have ensured. PVN was very much against Sonia Gandhi entering active politics, which is why he was sidelined.
Not going to fall for these talking points. He only reads from piece of paper written by some speech writer. What we need is can do person. What does these empty talks achieve anyway. Show me one thing he has done. Now don't tell me there is nothing to do. For a starter, can President if determined not do something about fish market like atmosphere in Parliament? Doesn't President have any influence on so many elections all the time? why can't President do something about holding state and federal elections once every 5 years? He will complete 5 years soon and has nothing to his legacy, other than President is ceremonial in India can't do much. We need someone like Seshan, who comes does something before his tenure is over and then goes away. The benefits are long lasting.

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Not going to fall for these talking points. He only reads from piece of paper written by some speech writer. What we need is can do person. What does these empty talks achieve anyway. Show me one thing he has done. Now don't tell me there is nothing to do. For a starter, can President if determined not do something about fish market like atmosphere in Parliament? Doesn't President have any influence on so many elections all the time? why can't President do something about holding state and federal elections once every 5 years? He will complete 5 years soon and has nothing to his legacy, other than President is ceremonial in India can't do much. We need someone like Seshan, who comes does something before his tenure is over and then goes away. The benefits are long lasting.
uska beta beti dono congress me hai.. why spoil it for them by being proactive? He can mind his business and just do a decent job.

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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

I'm not sure what neknaami and decent job is. He hasn't done anything. With or without him it would make no difference. Do you think anyone takes these pep talks to heart and from tomorrow they are going to change their behaviour? It makes a headline for a day lawmakers are going to do what suits them from tomorrow. That is why it is essential to put something in place which is not as easy as lecturebazi but that is what changes the landscape. They all wanna be heroes by giving lectures few times a year.
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

No place for xyz in the country:
Is this also not an intolerant statement
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

Such statements from the Prez has a subtle message that doesn't endorse the leftist methods and narrative without being overtly opposed or endorsing of any one side. That in itself drives a dagger through the heart of hardcore lefty chutiyas and RaGa type jokers.
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Not going to fall for these talking points. He only reads from piece of paper written by some speech writer. What we need is can do person. What does these empty talks achieve anyway. Show me one thing he has done. Now don't tell me there is nothing to do. For a starter, can President if determined not do something about fish market like atmosphere in Parliament? Doesn't President have any influence on so many elections all the time? why can't President do something about holding state and federal elections once every 5 years? He will complete 5 years soon and has nothing to his legacy, other than President is ceremonial in can't do much. We need someone like Seshan, who comes does something before his tenure is over and then goes away. The benefits are long lasting.
President might have limited power but if used judiciously those can be very effective. President can address joint session of parliament and can ask them to behave like what they are suppossed to.

Parliament is not supposed to be a place where people discuss trivial things like Kharge does.

Dada would retire and will go down in the history as someone who wanted everything without risking, it would have been risk to oppose sonia, so if given a chance to become PM he would have confronted, if sidelined, he is the honest party member.

Despite all fiasco, MMS had at least a tag of person who liberalized India in 1991, I don't think Dada will even have a place in Indian history 20 years from now

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President might have limited power but if used judiciously those can be very effective. President can address joint session of parliament and can ask them to behave like what they are suppossed to.

Parliament is not supposed to be a place where people discuss trivial things like Kharge does.

Dada would retire and will go down in the history as someone who wanted everything without risking, it would have been risk to oppose sonia, so if given a chance to become PM he would have confronted, if sidelined, he is the honest party member.

Despite all fiasco, MMS had at least a tag of person who liberalized India in 1991, I don't think Dada will even have a place in Indian history 20 years from now

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Well said, I'm appalled that there are many folks who are impressed with talking points written by a speech writer and think he is doing a good job. He may be doing a good job compare to Pratibha Patil not compare to idea of President and what can he accomplish in my mind. He is not even 1st from the bottom.
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Such statements from the Prez has a subtle message that doesn't endorse the leftist methods and narrative without being overtly opposed or endorsing of any one side. That in itself drives a dagger through the heart of hardcore lefty chutiyas and RaGa type jokers.
Could you list those subtle points. While this talks about patriotism, I see more of 'I support gurmehar' here.
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

President in India has the coolest job. Not much to do but get all the perks. He has no elections to win, doesn't have to answer anyone anything. If there is terror act like 26/11, President can go to bed at 8pm and if phone rings then he answers.

Give same old speeches written by someone on 26 Jan, 15 Aug and few more here and there and that's about it. You would think person with such a low responsibility would at least do 4-5 things in 5 yrs which he will be remembered for. Not even that.
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President in India has the coolest job. Not much to do but get all the perks.
What about Governors? And Rajya Sabha members?
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What about Governors? And Rajya Sabha members?
Same, I talked about eliminating Governors altogether and let President run that through Chief secretary. It would be no different except you will save poor people's money going to Governors lavishes.
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