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Old February 14th, 2014, 06:55 PM
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Re: Kejriwal resigns over Janlokpal bill; sets stage for national role

This clown is not gonna do anything better, anyway,….. no matter, how clean he is,.. or even if he claims to be, so far !

The way I think this scenario as,…

This Khujaliwaal,.. who raised on the shoulder of anna Hazaare ( using him as a ladder ) to get the lift and taking the advantage of the situation,. under the logo of an aam aadami and to built and made his own personality, career, value and weightage and making his own coin more valuable, in the Politics–market. If you still remember, soon after the India's Independence,… Manoj Kumar had declared himself as Bharat Kumar and made all desh-prem pictures like Upkaar, Pahechaan, Poorab aur Pacheem, Roti Pada aur makaan, Kranti, Be-iimaan, Shor, Yaadgaar,.. .. and under the logo of desh-bhakti,.. showed us sex and rapes of Saira, Zeenut, Maushami,..... and had minted the boat-loads of money under the logo of “Desh-bhakti ke movies”

This Khujliwaal "Ch*du-Chaman" is also no different.

The naked fact that governs is that,.. this guy has NO Naiteek Himmat !

When the country remains at crisis inthe future,.. be it war, communal riots, other jaati-waad and kom-waad, riots, Hinsa,. disorders, China’s interaction, Pakistaan's terrorism,… this clown can take no action, can take NO decision with presence of mind,.. just can ONLY hide like a rat in the hole,… or can do exactly, what MMS is doing, at present.

Though, this guy says NaMo as corrupted and did not utter anything about Lalu and also this guy knows it very well that, he can never be either a PM or can have its own party’s majority ever ever, so ultimately he will join either the congress or BJP and till-time telling whosoever Chor and corrupted,.. as far as his OWN COIN goes higher and builds its value and ultimately,.. he will merge with some chor party, some day – will have to. ( like, he is mentioning at present even NaMo as corrupted. )

So, ultimately, he is building his own career and value, and will turn out just an ordinary politician at the end of the day, joining any party ( to whom now he mentions as a Chor-Party ) and ultimately will make Ch**tiyaa all of us, gaining the ground calling himself as an aam aadami party.

Jee haan,,.. aise log hi,. “ Bahen Bahen kar ke,.. Bhaaniya nikaalte hai

In short, this guy has no Vision or the Jigar, Courage., Naiteek Himmat, Presence of Mind, decision power, will-power,…. No Nothing.

Khud apni khichari paka raha hai, Ch**tiya .

I hate such spineless guys,
who go underground, at the time of real crisis. A spineless tattu, no different than wimp Manmohan !

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Nahi.. the reasons are simple.. ek bhaine ke aage been bajaana is futile aur Indian junta ke aage sachai aur imaandari is futile..

Second patthar se sar maroge ya sar par patthar maroge.. patthar ki moorti nanahi banegi.. yaa to sar phoot jaayega ya sar patthar ban jaayega.. and that is futile too..

Ab tum batao nadi se naaraj jo kar.. us ki khilli udaakar.. us se nafart kar kar apne khud ki gand dhone band karoge to nuskaan kiskaa.. nadi kaa ki tumhaara? Nadi kaa kyaa hai vo to bahte rahegi.. badbu tumhari gaand se hi aayegaa.
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For all those who thought that the nightmare for Delhi is over..

Delhi will vote for Kejriwal AGAIN

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Old February 15th, 2014, 09:30 AM
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Of course.. it was obvious when one of the TV channels poised a few questions to a few people on dilli roads.

Respondant 1: AAP did not last because they are too cocky.. it was all drama.

Respondent 2: Well I have 3 questions for Congress and BJP and their allies..

Firstly let me say why the three questions 60 Years and you were against each other.. One did not form a govt inspite of being the majority winner (BJP) and other gave unconditional support to AAP and then pulled their support when Lokpal, the law supposedly against corruption which aparantly both of the parties BJP and Congress are not in favor or or keen to encourage (respondent one is near by listening to all this with a screwy face).

1. 60 Years in power, you never enacted a law a. la lokpal why? And a party that tries to bring in such a law, you say the WAY it was presented was unconstitutional.. Then was 2G, Augsta, bofors et. al. constitutional? Laws passed to shield those were constituitional moves? Which page of the constitution says that? And using that as an argument, you vote against a move against corruption and makes you reasonably answerable and pull the rug under a constitutionally elected government in less than 60 days.. strange bed fellows the BJP and Congress are and that when the support was unconditional.

2. If you are against corruption, why dilute the lokpal and mess with it and vote against the measure.. why not put it up for debate and help it be moved constitutionally.. congress was supporting the party in power so do they not have the responsibility of helping it come in however the constitution allows it instead of helping BJP scrap it?

3. You say the government could not be run for even 50 days.. then the question is WHO is responsible for NOT LETTING it run for more than that time and trying to make a political issue/milage out of it.

The first respondent then changes his mind.. he says.. intersting.. I did not think in those lines.. I will have to give my opinion a rethought.

Now given delhi is India's capital they are not FOOLS there.. so who is going to have the last laugh is anybody's guess and only time will tell.. but all in all.. seems like this time these two veterans in politricks got it the wrong way..

Well.. lets see.. this is certainly more attension grabbing than sas bhi kabhi gandu thi kinds of soap.
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Of course.. it was obvious when one of the TV channels poised a few questions to a few people on dilli roads.

Respondant 1: AAP did not last because they are too cocky.. it was all drama.

Respondent 2: Well I have 3 questions for Congress and BJP and their allies..

Firstly let me say why the three questions 60 Years and you were against each other.. One did not form a govt inspite of being the majority winner (BJP) and other gave unconditional support to AAP and then pulled their support when Lokpal, the law supposedly against corruption which aparantly both of the parties BJP and Congress are not in favor or or keen to encourage (respondent one is near by listening to all this with a screwy face).

1. 60 Years in power, you never enacted a law a. la lokpal why? And a party that tries to bring in such a law, you say the WAY it was presented was unconstitutional.. Then was 2G, Augsta, bofors et. al. constitutional? Laws passed to shield those were constituitional moves? Which page of the constitution says that? And using that as an argument, you vote against a move against corruption and makes you reasonably answerable and pull the rug under a constitutionally elected government in less than 60 days.. strange bed fellows the BJP and Congress are and that when the support was unconditional.

2. If you are against corruption, why dilute the lokpal and mess with it and vote against the measure.. why not put it up for debate and help it be moved constitutionally.. congress was supporting the party in power so do they not have the responsibility of helping it come in however the constitution allows it instead of helping BJP scrap it?

3. You say the government could not be run for even 50 days.. then the question is WHO is responsible for NOT LETTING it run for more than that time and trying to make a political issue/milage out of it.

The first respondent then changes his mind.. he says.. intersting.. I did not think in those lines.. I will have to give my opinion a rethought.

Now given delhi is India's capital they are not FOOLS there.. so who is going to have the last laugh is anybody's guess and only time will tell.. but all in all.. seems like this time these two veterans in politricks got it the wrong way..

Well.. lets see.. this is certainly more attension grabbing than sas bhi kabhi gandu thi kinds of soap.
I would have asked only one question to the second respondent. How do you think Lokpal is going to improve your quality of life.

He would have answered. "Oh, Corruption will come to an end". I would have asked 3 more questions then.

1. Where is the budget for some 100,000 or so blokes needed to enforce this Lokpal thing going to come from.

2. look at the article by Praveen Swami on covert killing. If some Lokpal bloke is behind you, would these IB guys go that extra step.

3. Look at the list of cleanest countries by Transparency. Does any one of them have a Lokpal.
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How/how soon does not matter it is a start and needed.. and in its due course it will change a lot of lives.. if there is a desease this big, any medicine will take time to take effect and reverse the progress of that ailment. Just because a medicine will take a long time or you do not know the mechanism behind how it works you shun it.. You don't know how an airplane/fridge/tv/computer works still use them or you don't know how prayers work and infact they don't yet you go and pray don't you?

1. Right were all that money is disappearing now. There will be enough.. think about it 1.75 lakh crores were siphoned off in coal scam.. 2 lakh crores in telecom scam, 6000 crores in augusta scam, 1300 crores in bofors scam (not adjusted for inflation). And that are just 4 of them.

2. Once corruption is rooted out all kinds of crimes petty or big will be investigated with due care because of the sheer burdern of answerability.

3. Do those country have blokes this corrupt to need a lokpal? Do you treat a person for cancer when that person is not suffering from cancer in the first place? Do those countries have this kind of a) unemployment, b) lack of funds for research, c) job generation problems, d) public discomfort (because ) of skyrocketing prices and unaffordability, e) do those countries have leaders whose qualification is that of a bar tender with bootleg certificates? No? They do not need lokpal yet.
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He did not respect public emotion.

He must stay & working for good.
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Why did he not ask for public vote or poll in his resignation .. . ?

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How/how soon does not matter it is a start and needed.. and in its due course it will change a lot of lives.. .
It could actually be for the worse. The lokpal would give huge power to some extra set of people who would not allow the govt to work. And there is a very high possibility that corruption would increase.

BTW, all, would this not happen already in the Anna approved Lokpal bill recently passed by parilament.

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1. Right were all that money is disappearing now. There will be enough.. think about it 1.75 lakh crores were siphoned off in coal scam.. 2 lakh crores in telecom scam, 6000 crores in augusta scam, 1300 crores in bofors scam (not adjusted for inflation). And that are just 4 of them.
The first 2 are actually 'notional losses' in stockwalas' terms or 'opportunity costs' in economics' lingo (Zero losses as per Kapil Sibal). . The actual money changing hands would havve been a small percentage of this. Actually if there were no Telecom scam, the money would have gone to govt and come from Cellphone consumer's pocket.


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2. Once corruption is rooted out all kinds of crimes petty or big will be investigated with due care because of the sheer burdern of answerability.
Even Anna Hazare expects corruption to come down only by 20%.


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3. Do those country have blokes this corrupt to need a lokpal? Do you treat a person for cancer when that person is not suffering from cancer in the first place? Do those countries have this kind of a) unemployment, b) lack of funds for research, c) job generation problems, d) public discomfort (because ) of skyrocketing prices and unaffordability, e) do those countries have leaders whose qualification is that of a bar tender with bootleg certificates? No? They do not need lokpal yet.
All the countries went through their own stages of disorder. Apparently, what India now is was like US in 1930s. The countries improved their standard of living and that took care of corruption. Jump in GDP would happen only with 'Pro RIch' policies that many countries including Japan and Korea followed.
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It could actually be for the worse. The lokpal would give huge power to some extra set of people who would not allow the govt to work. And there is a very high possibility that corruption would increase.
agreed ergo, we all should be pessimists and stop trying.

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Yes.. you identified one source.. there are many business that could have sprung up from that very notional losses.. err. wait.. I forgot I ought to be a pessimist.. no it would not possibly happen and hence not worth trying..


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All the countries went through their own stages of disorder. Apparently, what India now is was like US in 1930s. The countries improved their standard of living and that took care of corruption. Jump in GDP would happen only with 'Pro RIch' policies that many countries including Japan and Korea followed.
Perfect so lets all swim and dive in the cesspool filled with the stench of corruption and stop trying.. we are already used to it.. one happy family we are.. yeeeehhhhh...
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Peluji, i have been a pessimist about this Lokpal thing and its offshoot AAP for a long time. But this whole thing has sprung out of pessimism.
People keep saying "Things are bad", "there is too much corruption", "nothing works", etc.

If we look at transparency.org, India is actually in the middle (94 out of 180- It is actually better than the FIFA football ranking and HDI)

And since 91 economic reforms, things have been moving sometimes slow, sometimes fast. Many supporting AAP have been the biggest beneficiaries of this 'India Story' (A couple of my classmates who are bigshots in Banks/Cyber coolie cos)

things keep moving and if we actually let Ambanis, Birlas, etc. get on with their business,

If you look at Transparency.org report, India is some 94th of 180 countries, i.e.
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There are enough laws in India to deal with anything. The problem in India is not the lack of laws, but rather the immorality of the people who are entrusted with uploading the same.

There are no guarantees that the people charged with upholding the Lokpal won't get corrupted over time. There is a very high probability that such an organization will get corrupted in no time in this great secular, socialist whatever land of ours.
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Khujaliwaal is tweeting this tweet : " Someone sent this to me. Must watch - Mukesh Ambani's message to all Indians

here in this video , its showing mukesh ambani in very bad taste. Really pathetic for an ex-cm to malign a businessman even before the enquiry is not finsihed. He can go to any level to have political gains.

Pathetic.. is former CM can forward these kind of videos?

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This video definitely is in poor taste.

I always had a feeling and now its a confirmation that AAP is a collection of frustrated middle aged men and women who have no relevance in their otherwise regular life. AAP has allowed all such frustrated people to gather and rally for something.

The problem with AAP is that they find faults with everything and cry about everything. They had a chance to fix at least few of the things they find wrong. But Kejriwal resigned.

Please search my replies about Anna Hazare from a few years ago when he went on a fast in New Delhi. I had said then and I say it now - Anna's followers Kejriwal and Kiran Bedi, et-al are just crooks and corrupt themselves. They are power hungry and are in this Lokpal crap only for self gains.

Well, its true that 'Duniya chutiya banti hai, Chutiya banane wala chahiye'
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