If you were a doctor/lawyer

[Netra]

Every patient has a right to healthcare and a culprit a right to defense.

If you were a doctor/lawyer would you treat/defend a terrorist/child molestor/serial killer?

Dont forget that if the terrorist/child molestor/serial killer is cured/acquitted, others would have to pay with their lives.

Question slightly modified for Vakil Sahib: As a lawyer would you defend a terrorist/child molestor/serial killer?

If I were a doctor, I would treat anybody who came to me. (No conditions)
If I were a lawyer, I would defend the person if I was convinced of his innocence.

[Netra]

As for me I would treat/defend only I was convinced of the person's innocence, although its considered unethical for a doctor to refuse treatment to the sick.

[vyomkeshsaxena]

Originally posted by nayasavera
If I were a doctor, I would treat anybody who came to me. (No conditions)
If I were a lawyer, I would defend the person if I was convinced of his innocence.

mujhe tede caese solve karane mein bahut maza aata hain....mujhe jis case mein halki bhi chance mili masti karane ke liye..main usko le loonga....paise ka koi pyaar nahi hain mujhe...bas masti aani chahiye

doctor....hmmm....netra di..specifically bolo kaun sa waala doc...phir bataaunga


agar dentists, dermatologist to main sirf unhi patients ko dekhunga jinke teeth zyada kharab nahi hain n ofcourse their mouth dont stink aur dermi section mein bas sundar adkiyo.n ke muh pe jo bahut thode pimples aaye hain unhei.n treat karunga.....baaki to seeing the worst condn in both these depts sucks

[vakil sahib]

i think the rules are slightly different for doctors and lawyers. doctors, i think, are prevented by their oath from refusing to treat anyone- even serial killers and child molestors.

lawyers can choose not to defend anyone they do not want to( thank god). a lawyers training teaches him to be non judgmental. everyone has a right to a fair trial. if a person pleads not guilty then the state has to prove the case against him. on this basis i would have no difficulty in defending such a person. i may not like the client personally but emotions have to be put aside.

but thankfully cases like the ones you mention are few and far between. a terrorist trial would be such a high profile case that it would make the lawyers name-whether he wins or loses.

[loverboy260]

if doctor i would ask someone else to treat the rapist/molester etc. but if its emergency i would "operate" on him until the other doctor arrived! i mean that person could have raped "sorry" someone who u love etc! i wouldnt wanna even touch him unnecessarily! (ie when not urgent)

if lawyer i would only take on cases where i KNOW for a fact that the person is innocent. unless i dont make enough money (by that i mean no one comes to me then i will start taking other cases, have to live some way)

and therefore i am VERY HAPPY that i m neither a lawyer or a doctor!

is vakhilsahib a lawyer then?

why is it a right of a person clearly guilty to have thousands of pounds/dollars wasted on him??? i mean if say i commit a crime in someones house and they have CCTV or something, surely the judge shud just look at my crime details and lock me up for the required amount rather then wasting the tax payers money! see end of world, when justice will not be JUST!

[vakil sahib]

to change the question slightly to include everyone, not just doctors and lawyers:

if you came across a known child molestor who has just been run over by a car in an accident and who had stopped breathing. you are the first on the scene after the accident.

would you give that person mouth to mouth resuscitation? on grounds of humanity?

[vakil sahib]

Originally posted by loverboy260
if doctor i would ask someone else to treat the rapist/molester etc. but if its emergency i would "operate" on him until the other doctor arrived! i mean that person could have raped "sorry" someone who u love etc! i wouldnt wanna even touch him unnecessarily! (ie when not urgent)

if lawyer i would only take on cases where i KNOW for a fact that the person is innocent. unless i dont make enough money (by that i mean no one comes to me then i will start taking other cases, have to live some way)

and therefore i am VERY HAPPY that i m neither a lawyer or a doctor!

is vakhilsahib a lawyer then?

why is it a right of a person clearly guilty to have thousands of pounds/dollars wasted on him??? i mean if say i commit a crime in someones house and they have CCTV or something, surely the judge shud just look at my crime details and lock me up for the required amount rather then wasting the tax payers money! see end of world, when justice will not be JUST!

LB, yes i am a lawyer.

every person has the fundamental right to a fair trial. this right has been given to prevent the state from arbitrarily locking people up as they do in repressive regimes. if the police could just lock people up without trial would you consider that to be justice?

[Netra]

Originally posted by vakil sahib
LB, yes i am a lawyer.

every person has the fundamental right to a fair trial. this right has been given to prevent the state from arbitrarily locking people up as they do in repressive regimes. if the police could just lock people up without trial would you consider that to be justice?

Vakil Sahib, i'm sure you've heard about the Dutroux (spel?) case in Belgium. The guy was caught red-handed. Two of his victims were found in the basement of his house.

Now as you say this guy has a right to his defense. Say he gets a great lawyer ( ) like you who gets him out on technicality. He starts molesting and killing more children. Would you not have their deaths on your conscience?

[vakil sahib]

no. it is up to the police to get the evidence in order before going to court. otherwise the court will throw the evidence out and the man walks free. this happened in the OJ trial as well when vital evidence was corrupted by the police in their bungling attempts to collect it.

it is up to the police to ensure that the case is watertight so that the guilty are not acquitted. then it is up to the judge to pass such a long sentence that such people are removed from public circulation for the rest of their lives.

it is fashionable to blame lawyers in cases such as these but we are only applying the letter of the law- i.e. if there is not sufficent evidence the court cannot, BY LAW, convict.

netra, what do you think about my slightly changed question about resuscitating such a person following an accident?

[Netra]

Originally posted by vakil sahib
to change the question slightly to include everyone, not just doctors and lawyers:

if you came across a known child molestor who has just been run over by a car in an accident and who had stopped breathing. you are the first on the scene after the accident.

would you give that person mouth to mouth resuscitation? on grounds of humanity?

Sorry Vakil Sahib, missed that one.

I know I am having an inhuman attitude, but i wont give mouth to mouth resuscitation to a child molester/serial killer/terrorist etc. For all you know I just might hold his nose and mouth so tight with my hands that there is no scope for any recovery.

I know that's what you wanted to hear. But for me these scum are better off dead.

[Diplomat]

I will not give mouth to mouth to anybody.....who is not immediate family

[loverboy260]

Originally posted by vakil sahib
it is up to the police to ensure that the case is watertight so that the guilty are not acquitted. then it is up to the judge to pass such a long sentence that such people are removed from public circulation for the rest of their lives.

if i committed a murder, was acquitted i would probably be let off after doing 10 years or so!
justice is pathetic in western countries!

[loverboy260]

Originally posted by Diplomat
I will not give mouth to mouth to anybody.....who is not immediate family

then u could probably go to prison for indirectly causing death?
what u say vakhilsahib?

[Netra]

Originally posted by Diplomat
I will not give mouth to mouth to anybody.....who is not immediate family

I would have no problems giving mouth to mouth to anybody, even an animal.

But to a person who can prove potentially dangerous, no way! And loverboy, I don't mind going to prison for this.