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now you know why I'm avoiding all news coverage on this..


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I thought you knew who Sheena and Indrani were when you posted that tweet about hardik patel... oh well.
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I thought you knew who Sheena and Indrani were when you posted that tweet about hardik patel... oh well.
After I received this whatsapp message I gave up trying to understand anything..

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Re: Hardik Patel: Rise of the quota warrior

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LOL

then what is the rate going for attending a rally???

I hope hardik can keep his next rally in Mumbai on a Sunday.I can make a few quick bucks.

JUST JOKING

If this news is real, then it is a serious concern.Any links to this news.
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Re: Hardik Patel: Rise of the quota warrior

perhaps the stupid hardik patel also realizes that this demand is NOT possible to accept.It is likely to lead to DECREASE IN RESERVATION.So is this stupid guy an anti- reservation crusader in secret?

OR is he plainly stupid???
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Re: Hardik Patel: Rise of the quota warrior

this will lead to beginning of end of reservation in India,if it actually does something.otherwise, usual NO EFFECT.

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2015/08...n_8060844.html

Hardik Patel Brings Quota Demand To Delhi

NEW DELHI: Hardik Patel, the face of the Patel quota stir in Gujarat, today announced plans for a nation-wide agitation seeking reservation for nearly "27 crore people" of various communities including Gujjars and Kurmis. He was in Delhi on a "non political" visit and was only interested in the cause of representation.

The 22-year-old leader said the reservation agitation "was a marathon and not a 100-metre race" and he intends to hold mega-rallies in different parts of the country to widen the stir.

Hardik met Jats and Gurjars and reiterated the demand for reservation for Patidars saying the “system today is hollow”. “On August 25, I had said that our numbers in the country amount to 27 crore, who are dispersed across states. The entire 27 crore Patel community has to be brought together, and this movement will be taken across the country, wherever there are Patels,” Hardik said at a press conference at the Press Club of India.
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Re: Hardik Patel: Rise of the quota warrior

this will lead to beginning of end of reservation in India,if it actually does something.otherwise, usual NO EFFECT.

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2015/08...n_8060844.html

Hardik Patel Brings Quota Demand To Delhi

NEW DELHI: Hardik Patel, the face of the Patel quota stir in Gujarat, today announced plans for a nation-wide agitation seeking reservation for nearly "27 crore people" of various communities including Gujjars and Kurmis. He was in Delhi on a "non political" visit and was only interested in the cause of representation.

The 22-year-old leader said the reservation agitation "was a marathon and not a 100-metre race" and he intends to hold mega-rallies in different parts of the country to widen the stir.

Hardik met Jats and Gurjars and reiterated the demand for reservation for Patidars saying the “system today is hollow”. “On August 25, I had said that our numbers in the country amount to 27 crore, who are dispersed across states. The entire 27 crore Patel community has to be brought together, and this movement will be taken across the country, wherever there are Patels,” Hardik said at a press conference at the Press Club of India.





Besides this the former gujrat cop sanjeev bhatt wrote a letter to both patel & the CM.
http://www.india.com/whatever/this-o...fectly-520699/



Hardik Patel arrives in Delhi with designs on turning his Patidar agitation into a national movement

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/ha...t-2413632.html

Ahmedabad: On Saturday evening, a 22-year-old man walked out of the Delhi airport with dreams of starting a new revolution in India, and a new headache for the Narendra Modi government.

The architect of the latest Patidar reservation — or is it anti-reservation? — movement, Hardik Patel landed in Delhi to meet representatives of the Jat and Gujjar communities, along with members of his own community, in Delhi to turn his agitation into a nationwide stir. Also on Hardik's agenda is a mammoth rally in the heart of Delhi next month.

Among Hardik' interlocutors in the national capital are members of the Patidar community from 10 Indian states. Hardik Patel claims the Patidars are spread in several corners of India — from Rajasthan in the north to Andhra Pradesh in south — they number nearly 27 crore. “The Kurmis of Bihar and their leader Nitish Kumar is ours; the Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Chandrababu Naidu is also part of the Patidar family,” he says.

Hardik's ambition is clear: He wants to bring all communities fighting for reservation benefits under one umbrella and showcase their combined might in Delhi. His plans are not limited to Gujarat and the state's Patel community, which is fighting under his leadership for either a share of the 27 percent quota set aside for OBCs or replacement of caste with socio-economic criteria, as the basis for reservation.

Hardik has given enough indications that his fight is not limited to Gujarat. At the rally in Ahmedabad on Tuesday (25 August), he spoke in Hindi, even when, as editor of the Ahmedabad edition of DNA, Shyam Parekh, points out, several members of the community don't understand the language.

The success of the Ahmedabad rally — he claims there were 18 lakh Patels in the Gujarat capital for the event — has further emboldened Hardik. He feels the Gujarat model of the movement can be replicated in other states too with help from other communities fighting reservation battles in their own regions.
As recently as a few days ago, sceptics would have smirked at Hardik's plans to launch a nationwide stir for change in the existing reservation system. Ahmedabad-based journalists say that until a few days ago, nobody had even heard of Hardik or his movement. But the young leader from a modest family of Viramgam suddenly appeared on the horizon with the support of thousands of supporters, whose numbers later swelled to nearly a million.

But, several hidden forces may have contributed to Hardik’s success. The young leader makes no efforts to hide his ideological leanings. He claims Bal Thackarey and Bhagat Singh are his heroes, and VHP leader Pravin Togadia an inspiration. Hardik's father, a Viramgam-based trader, is an ordinary member of the BJP.

Analysts, however, argue that the real force behind the movement is the RSS. A report in Gujarati daily Divya Bhaskar claims the Sangh has propped up Hardik to turn reservation into an pan-India issue. "The Sangh's objective is to initiate a debate on the caste-based reservation policy and then prepare grounds for its replacement with socio-economic criteria," the report argues.

The Shiv Sena has hailed him as Gujarat's hero. In an editorial on Friday, the party mouthpiece Saamana called him the new "king of crowds". It said that his rise has punctured claims that Gujarat was a peaceful state and the development does not augur well for the BJP. But the party has refused to back his demand for OBC status for Patidars, calling them as affluent as the Marathas of Maharashtra.

PS:I have NOT posted the entire article as was long.

the 2nd last line puts a new theory.interesting
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Re: Hardik Patel: Rise of the quota warrior

Rohit Pandey, an AAP volunteer looks SIMILAR TO THIS hardik patel and many people(anti AAP) are posting the picture of rohit pandey falsely claiming that the pictures are of hardik patel.I wonder how these anti AAP posters can go this bad level,just like trying to show AK as a CIA agent in the social media.

http://focusnews.com/india/hardik-pa...atsapp/115817/

Now hardik patel is only 22 yrs.(or 21) old. so he is unlikely to do anything without someone's backing & his own family support.now his father Bharatbhai is a politician & a leader from BJP.

here is another theory.
http://indiasamvad.co.in/6389/showst...-real-gamesmen
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Firstpost is blatantly Congressi just like ibn and ndtv. i dont read nor take them seriously, was started by Rajdeep Chordesai.
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I don't think private organizations care for caste system, where majority of Indians are working? So what is the issue if these Patels get that?

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Govt Jobs. Guj Govt is soon going to fill up vacancies in govt jobs, police etc.. that is why this agitation is getting traction with some patels...
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All this is happening because hardik has a HARD-DICK
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Re: Hardik Patel: Rise of the quota warrior

Chetan Bhagat tweeted:
"Patels do very well in the USA because of opportunity, not reservation. Let us make India into the land of opportunity, not reservation."

Some statements make you wonder where to begin.

Not a fan of his books, or writing, or articles, or anything, but some like this tweet take the cake.

I have half a mind to figure out twitter, join and tweet back: Dabbawalas in Mumbai do very well because of opportunity.

He was one of the examples that made me seriously question my awe of the IIT, IIM brand names.
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All this is happening because hardik has a HARD-DICK
How did you know that ?
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Re: Hardik Patel: Rise of the quota warrior

The arguments on both sides of the issue are compelling, and its difficult to put forward a view without being biased to your side of the argument.

I saw the Manjhi movie on the weekend, and jokes apart I get it why low castes need the upliftment.

But its a fact faced by all in general category that they are denied opportunities because of undue reservation.
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'In the last ten days a mastermind has emerged who is misleading him and using him like a pawn. We made Hardik the face of this agitation. Hardik was the smallest mohra in this agitation.'

'The mastermind is doing Hardik's makeover. He is increasing his face value. But this is helping us in pushing forth for our demands. Because Hardik's face value is increasing, our agitation is benefiting. What is the motive of this mastermind in doing what he is doing is a different issue.'
A youth displays a mask of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel during the Kranti rally (revolution march) organised by the Patel ( Patidar) community to press their demands for reservation, at the GMDC Ground in Ahmedabad. Photograph: PTI Photo

IMAGE: A youth displays a mask of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel during the Kranti rally (revolution march) organised by the Patel ( Patidar) community to press their demands for reservation, at the GMDC Ground in Ahmedabad. Photograph: PTI Photo
Chief spokesperson of the Sardar Patel Group, the parent organisation spearheading the Patidar agitation to demand reservations, and the man in charge of the Patidar Anamat Andolan Samiti, Varun Patel, below, left, tells Prasanna D Zore/Rediff.com that efforts are being made to use Hardik Patel, the 22-year-old face of this agitation, by other players, but he is confident of securing their demand through a peaceful agitation.

Are you planning an economic blockade of Ahmedabad? I received a message from Hardik's number that appeals to the Patidars to stop supplying essential items like milk and vegetables to various cities.

There are also talks of Patidars planning to withdraw Rs 50,000 each from the banking system simultaneously to further pressurise the demands of Patidars for reservations under OBC quota.

You are also demanding Rs 30 lakh (Rs 3 million) as compensation for those who were killed in the police firing. Is this true?

It happened by mistake. It was an old message. I have spoken with him (Hardik) and there is no such instruction from SPG or PAAS to Patidars. I told him if this message was circulated intentionally or unintentionally, he should stop it.

We will stick to our demand for Rs 30 lakh compensation for those who died in police firing.

Why did Hardik send such a message? Is there a problem between Hardik and the SPG?

We are unable to meet each other right now and we are not able to hold long meetings over the phone. If you want Hardik's personal view, then please call him.

There is no difference of opinion between the SPG's and PAAS's views. I spoke to him just now and asked him to stop circulating these messages if he has done it intentionally.

Hardik told me that it must have happened unintentionally and he will withdraw this message.

I have not spoken to him clearly about it, but I have told him to stop circulating such messages. I think that that message was unintentional and I have clarified it with him that our target now should be maintaining peace in Gujarat under any circumstances.

Both Hardik and I are members of the SPG. Earlier I was the head of the Mandal taluka and during this agitation I was appointed chief spokesperson of the SPG and in charge of the PAAS.

Why then are the SPG and Hardik speaking and acting in different ways?



When it comes to the welfare of Patidars then there is no difference between me, Hardik or any other member of the community.

Ours is a big community. Everybody is sane, wise and educated. So, we could have differences as far as opinions go, but our hearts are united. We could have different views on some issues, particularly on a couple of decisions. But it is wrong to assume that we are at loggerheads over all the decisions we make.

When Hardik declared his fast from the GMDC ground and said that the chief minister should come to the ground and accept their petition it was a unilateral one. He did not discuss this decision with anybody from the SPG. He could have taken that decision in excitement.

The entire Patidar community has disassociated itself with Hardik's decision. The Patidar community is of the view that this is Hardik's personal decision. Officially, the SPG and PAAS do not support Hardik's decision to fast until the CM comes personally to accept our petition.

While I have been very busy and we have not been able to connect with each other when I managed to speak with him on Wednesday (August 26) I told him that under no situation should he act in a manner that would further vitiate the climate in Gujarat.

But like the entire Patidar community Hardik is very angry at the way the police tried to put down our agitation.

What did the police do?

The police abused our sisters and mothers; they beat their husbands in front of them.

At about 8, 8.30 pm on Tuesday (August 25) the police surrounded the (GMDC) ground from all sides. Then they switched off the electricity connection to the ground. They also disconnected the supply from the generators.



After that the police attacked the crowds like wild beasts without taking cognisance of the presence of women, children or elders before showering lathis on them.

Such irresponsible behaviour has no place in civil society or any democracy. This animal-like beating led to the crowds getting agitated and they immediately communicated this police attack to their friends and relatives via SMS and WhatsApp.

I don't see involvement of Patidars in the violence that gripped Gujarat since Tuesday. This is pre-planned and I sincerely suspect that the state machinery is engineering this violence.

Who do you mean by the state machinery?

Minister of State for Home Rajni Patel and Chief Minister Anandiben Patel (who is also the home minister) are saying that they have not ordered the lathi charge and were unaware of this act.

Then, is the Gujarat police taking orders from the Andhra Pradesh or Karnataka government?

And through such statements if the minister of state for home is conveying that the state's police are not in his control then he should resign immediately and the government should appoint a new minister who can control the police department.

Police resort to a lathicharge after violent clashes in Ahmedabad. Photograph: PTI Photo

IMAGE: Police resort to a lathicharge after violent clashes in Ahmedabad. Photograph: PTI Photo
If the police are acting without orders from the home minister too then the state government must suspend 8,000 policemen who were present there. We have been appealing since this morning that peace and law and order should be maintained under any circumstance. These are anti-social elements inciting violence egged by the state government.

Why was there an increase in the security detail of the chief minister and Rajni Patel at 2 pm on Tuesday? Did they already know that there was going to be violence?

So, would you appeal Hardik to call of his fast? If yes, then how do you plan to press for your demands to get reservations?

As I told you earlier, this action of Hardik has no support among the Patidars and the SPG. Arakshan toh chahiye hi chahiye aur woh hum lekar hi rahenge. Yeh toh bohat spasht baat hai (We want reservations and we will achieve our goal any which way we can). There are no differences of opinion here and we will fight for our rights peacefully.

Why is Hardik taking such decisions on his own?

In the last ten days a 'mastermind' has emerged who is misleading him and using him like a pawn. We made Hardik the face of this agitation. Hardik was the smallest mohra (pawn) in this agitation that we promoted.

But when this game went into the hands of the media and someone badly managed the media as well as Hardik.

While this 'mastermind' has made Hardik into a star, he is being misused. We are unable to find who this mastermind is and neither are we interested in knowing who this person is.

Whoever he is, Hardik has benefited from it and through Hardik the SPG and PAAS have benefited.

This agitation is not because of Hardik but because of the SPG and because of the intense resentment the Patidars are nursing for a long time.

The crowds gathered at the SPG ground were spontaneous. No single person or organisation has the potential to get so many people out in the streets. Be it Hardik or I or Lalbhai (the senior SPG leader).

Considering what you are saying there seems to be serious differences between the SPG and Hardik? Are you in agreement with the way this agitation is being taken over by Hardik?

The difference was limited to only two issues: Remaining stubborn in calling Gujarat Chief Minister Anandiben Patel to accept our petition on the GMDC ground and sitting on hunger strike unilaterally and in anger. Except these two, all decisions we took were unanimous. That was the only wrong decision he took, we feel.

Otherwise, every other matter was done by consultation. Else, we would not have succeeded in getting so many people out in the streets.

Although you say that Hardik is being controlled, you are also denying that there is a split between the SPG and Hardik. How does one reconcile to these two statements?

The mastermind is doing Hardik's makeover. He is increasing his face value. But this is helping us in pushing forth our demands. Because Hardik's face value is increasing, our agitation is benefiting.

What is the motive of this mastermind in doing what he is doing is a different issue.

Then by implication you mean that this 'mastermind' is wishing good for the Patidar community?

I am not sure if he wishes us well or ill. But whatever this person's intention and whatever he is doing after emerging on the scene, till today that has only helped us. Credit must go to him too.

Hardik must thank this 'mastermind' for increasing his face value. We don't need such masterminds.

What an absolutely bizarre interview???

If there is indeed such a mastermind behind Hardik, I would like to guess a name and state it is no one more likely than Ahmed Patel. Ahmed Patel already been the progenitor of the 'Saffron Terror' miscampaign during UPA and it certainly wouldn't be beneath him to try this tactic to break the formidable voteshare being enjoyed by the BJP post 2014.

As for Hardik Patel himself, his 'agitation' may well lead to a reformation of the current reservation system in India. But I suspect Hardik himself will receive none of the credit for it. The history of humanity is full of examples of men who sought to achieve a goal through wrong means, yet reaped the very opposite of what they wanted. We might be very fortunate to find Hardik Patel being relegated to the very same fate.
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The Narendra Modi government on Monday sprang a surprise when it appointed senior IAS officer Rajiv Mehrishi as Union home secretary in place of incumbent L C Goyal, who sought voluntary retirement after taking over the charge seven months ago.

The prime minister has approved the appointment of Mehrishi, a 1978-batch Rajasthan cadre IAS officer, for a period of two years with effect from Monday, an official release said.

Mehrishi was serving as secretary in the Department of Economic Affairs in the finance ministry and was supposed to retire on Monday.

According to sources, the decision has come as a jolt to the bureaucrats in New Delhi.

Since morning, New Delhi is agog with speculation, that the PMO is unhappy over Goyal's handling of the Naga peace accord and the Hardik Patel episode.

In one year, two home secretaries and one foreign secretary have been shunted out. In January, the then Foreign Secretary Sujatha Singh was eased out of her office six months before the completion of her two-year fixed tenure.

Terming it as an extension of the Gujarat model of ‘use and throw’ bureaucracy, sources said that such moves could drive a wedge between the government and the bureaucracy.

Monday’s development comes against the backdrop of reported controversies in the home ministry surrounding the denial of security clearance to Sun TV owned by the Maran group, issues related to an NGO headed by social activist Teesta Stelvad and the Naga accord.



However, according to the official release, the prime minister approved the request of Goyal, a 1979-batch Kerala cadre IAS officer, of voluntary retirement from government service due to personal reasons with immediate effect.

“For personal reasons, I didn't want to continue. It was my own decision,” Goyal told reporters here after the announcement came.

Goyal said any other reason being mentioned is factually incorrect.

At the same time, Goyal, who turned 60 only a few months ago, said he is hale and hearty.

Goyal was appointed to the post on February 5 by the Modi government after the then Union Home Secretary Anil Goswami was sacked after he allegedly tried to prevent CBI from arresting former Union Minister Matang Sinh in connection with Saradha chit fund scam case.

The post of Union home secretary has a fixed tenure of two years.

The Congress, though, is not all pleased with Mehrishi's appointment.

Congress leaders, who are familiar with transfers in babudom, smell something fishy and rediff.com's sources say they will reveal all in two days.

With inputs from PTI.

Photograph: L C Goyal


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