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Old March 9th, 2015, 08:27 AM
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Re: Interview of Nirbhaya’s rapist

Media houses were competing to name her. It was Nirbhaya Vs Damini for a while. The one with bigger muscle finally won.
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Old March 9th, 2015, 11:20 AM
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Re: Interview of Nirbhaya’s rapist

Congrats the documentary is working.. Don't be surprised to be rejected in a job because you represent the "rapist mentality" of the Indian male.

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German univ denies Indian an internship citing ‘rape problem’

A professor in Germany on Monday apologised for refusing an Indian male student an internship because of his country's "rape problem", after the German ambassador to India condemned the incident.

Annette Beck-Sickinger, a professor at Leipzig University, expressed regret after her emails refusing the Indian man surfaced on social media, causing a wave of anger.

The incident prompted Germany's ambassador to India Michael Steiner to write a letter objecting to her "oversimplifying and discriminating generalisation" of Indian men.

Beck-Sickinger wrote in an email on Sunday that she did not "accept any Indian male students for internships" as she heard "a lot about the rape problem in India".

"I have many female friends in my group, so I think this attitude is something I cannot support," she wrote to the Indian student, whose identity has not been revealed.


He replied asking for the reasoning behind her "painful generalizations" and "hurtful words".

In a statement uploaded on the German embassy website, the professor apologised saying: "I have made a mistake. I sincerely apologise to everyone whose feelings I have hurt."

The incident comes after a government order to ban the broadcast of a documentary about the December 2012 fatal gang-rape of a young student in New Delhi has reignited debate on the safety of women in India.

India has seen an outpouring of anger over the frightening levels of violence against women since the attack, which sent shockwaves around the world.

In his letter, Steiner asked the professor to "correct a simplistic image (of India) which -- in my opinion -- is particularly unsuitable for a professor and teacher".

"Your oversimplifying and discriminating generalisation is an offense... to millions of law-abiding, tolerant, open-minded and hard-working Indians," he wrote in a letter uploaded on the German embassy website.

"Let's be clear: India is not a country of rapists."
Reason given by German prof:



The German prof replies again:



German Ambassador to India writes to Prof.

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Re: Interview of Nirbhaya’s rapist

Saw this German thing on news and was waiting for Shakti Pai to post this.

The documentary is one of many which support such generalization (many of which come from Indian Media itself). And now that the documentary has been made, banning which would not make a difference.

We finally find a pros and cons section in BBC itself. It lists out the reasons against the docu and also takes a potshot at Arnab Goswami for opposing it more because rival NDTV had got rights for it. Now i know why NDTV was all jumping on it and managed to get Tavlen singh on its side.
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Re: Interview of Nirbhaya’s rapist

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Saw this German thing on news and was waiting for Shakti Pai to post this.
mere ko apna thread chalana hai.. and vent my anguish.

If I get to interview a German should I reject them saying you're a Nazi. May be I should generalize, err on the side of caution.

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http://www.thenewsminute.com/news_sections/3189



'SOCIETY created Delhi Gang rape convicts'.... This is her take on this issue.. !

She is blaming the SOCIETY and not the RAPISTS.. She believes that the Rapists did what Indian Society has taught them. !

How can we sit and accept such outrageous views about our Country..? She is the one generalising the Entire Country and comparing us with Rapists !

Here is what the PRODUCER had to say about INDIA..

Q. Are men like Mukesh Singh (Rapist) an exception?

A: I don’t think men like Mukesh Singh are an exception. I think most men in this country are programmed a certain way.

Q. What do you think about the portrayal of women in Bollywood?

A: I think Bollywood movies are pornography. I think that women are objectified. It’s all part of this disease, this culture.

Some more Great Words by the Producer about India.

Its not just the rapist, it’s the whole society. The society teaches these rapists what to think. The rapists then act in a certain way, and then the society rejects them as though they have nothing to do with them. They created them, and encouraged them. Society is responsible

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Re: interview of Nirbhaya rapist

Jaya Bachchan serious on Nirbhaya Documentary in Rajya Sabha

https://www.youtube.com/embed/0tcbiIUsMzI


https://www.youtube.com/embed/b2A1eLsEXmk

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German prof rejects Indian student for ‘rape problem’

NEW DELHI: A German university professor's rejection email to an Indian student's application for internship citing the "rape problem in India" as reason went viral on Sunday, sparking an online furore. By Monday afternoon, German ambassador to India Michael Steiner responded to the fast-brewing controversy, issuing a strongly worded letter to the professor, condemning her action. A subsequent apology from the Leipzig-based biochemistry professor, Dr Annette G. Beck-Sickinger, was then posted on the German embassy's website.

The professor's emails were posted anonymously as screenshots on Sunday on the social website Quora, in a post titled "What should an Indian male student do if he is denied an internship opportunity on the basis of India being projected as an unsafe country for women?"

The email as featured here read: "Dear Sir, Unfortunately I don't accept any Indian male students for internships. We hear a lot about the rape problem in India which I cannot support. I have many female students in my group, so I think this attitude is something I cannot support." A second email featured in the Quora post quotes the professor as saying: "Many female professors in Germany decided to no longer accept Indian male students for these reasons, and currently other European female associations are joining."

The note posted on the German embassy website india.diplo.de on Monday read: "Ambassador Michael Steiner takes note that the University of Leipzig has just announced publicly that Professor Beck-Sickinger apologizes for her unwarranted remarks. Professor Beck-Sickinger: 'I have made a mistake. I sincerely apologise to everyone whose feelings I have hurt.'"

When TOI contacted the professor, she wrote back saying that she only rejected the candidate as her lab was full. "I cannot confirm the veracity of the e-mail circulating in the (sic) Internet. I usually select students by the criteria of excellence and the availability of positions in my lab. Currently two male Indian students do their lab course in my lab, and I had 5/30 in the last year winter course (sic). This is by far more than the average in German University (sic). I rejected the student as the lab is full in summer. He was angry about this," wrote Dr Beck-Sickinger, who works at the Institute of Biochemistry at the university.



She did not respond to TOI's follow-up email posing a specific query on the point of other European female associations joining in the boycott as mentioned in the email posted on Quora.

Interestingly, the professor's response to some other outlets and individuals was differently worded, saying that the email was "taken out of context." On Twitter, a user who goes by the handle @sandygrains shared Beck-Sickinger's response to her, which read: "Unfortunately this mail was a misunderstanding. Of course I have nothing against male Indians and I have accepted several Indian students in the past. However my lab is full and I currently cannot take any student. This led to an unpleasant discussion with one of the Indian student (sic). I apologise if this caused any misunderstanding, but the e-mail was taken out of the context."

By Monday afternoon, German ambassador shared the letter he had written to the professor from his Twitter handle @Amb_MSteiner. "It has been brought to my attention that you denied an internship to a male Indian student, giving 'the rape problem in India' as a reason. Let me make it clear at the outset that I strongly object to this," says the letter, which then goes on to talk about the public debate on violence against women in India that started after the Dec 2012 gang rape, and a women's day celebration held at the German embassy with several male and female activists in attendance.



"Your oversimplifying and discriminating generalization is an offense to these women and men ardently committed to furthering women empowerment in India; and it is an offense to millions of law-abiding, tolerant, open-minded and hard-working Indians. Let's be clear: India is not a country of rapists," the letter says.
Thank you, BBC. Thank you, Indian media.

Now India should ban all Germans and German products citing the Holocaust.

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Re: Interview of Nirbhaya’s rapist

What about the BBC's record of having a child molester as its host?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-20026910

How about the BBC concentrates Prince Andrew involvement in sex slavery ring?
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Will media question UPA? How did MMS sarkar allow this interview?
That is what is said in BBC itself

Incredible access
British producer Leslee Udwin gained some of the most extraordinary and rare access that any film-maker has ever had inside an Indian prison.


Activist Kavita Krishnan wondered how Udwin was allowed access to convicts inside jail when authorities "prevent most human rights campaigners in India from speaking to, let alone filming, prisoners".
The hour-long film also includes extensive interviews of the victim's parents, families of the convicts and their lawyers, interspersed with reconstruction of the incident.


Now, the broaddcast rights in India for the documentary was given to NDTV. So, could one see any link to that and on why NDTV was supporting this docu so much and had a blank hour for the scheduled telecast of the documentary.

And NDTV comes up usually with a lot of information from its 'Sources' which shows that it can move things. So, it must have been behind this access.
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What about the BBC's record of having a child molester as its host?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-20026910

How about the BBC concentrates Prince Andrew involvement in sex slavery ring?
Rather than complain about all this, let there be a Doordarshan Documentary on Racism in Britain with interviews from BNP and National front. i could put some 2 instances in my Budhau memories thread.
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German Ambassador to India writes to Prof.

Excelllent Diplomacy The German Ambassador was Proactive and swift in this case. Shot off a letter before he could get summoned.

The IFS guys could use this example.
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Excelllent Diplomacy The German Ambassador was Proactive and swift in this case. Shot off a letter before he could get summoned.

The IFS guys could use this example.
One needs to be awake to do things like this.. and familiarity with twitter, internet, facebook helps.
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One needs to be awake to do things like this.. and familiarity with twitter, internet, facebook helps.
Good job by Ambassador. Probably his staff was also alert.

But what happened to the student ultimately?? Does he still want to go to Germany and has the Prof changed her mind?
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Achchha! What effect will this vicious propaganda campaign have on tourism? Kisi ko pataa hai taaza aur authentic khabar?
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Now, coming to Rape statistics and complaining that India is not so bad, could i step back to 2011 and tell the same about Corruption too, when every one under Anna Hazare Bandwagon suddenly discovered that India was very corrupt.
Transparency International placed India 90th or so out of 180 countries. There are countries like Russia, Indonesia and of course Pakistan which are more corrupt than India.
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