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Old March 27th, 2005, 06:28 PM
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Question Wasn't the Muslim supposed to be the common enemy?

The great men of the Hindu Right must be feeling rather small these days. For the Clash of Civilisations they so fervently believe in appears to be happening with the "good guys"—George W. Bush' US of A—which the advocates of Hindutva so admire.

For several years now, ideologues of the BJP have openly sought to establish an India-US-Israel axis, three nations they perceive as fighting the bearded "bad guys" (read Muslims). Narendra Modi's politics in Gujarat was specifically driven by the post 9/11 world, followed by the December 13 attack on Parliament. Less than three months later came the massacre of Muslims in Gujarat with Modi openly speaking against the community and juxtaposing them with "Mian Musharraf".

In the world according to Modi, if George Bush was dropping bombs on Muslims in Afghanistan, he too was doing his bit to show the community its place in Gujarat. He more or less said so after Bush was re-elected to office last year in an election that polarised the US. The Gujarat CM had declared grandiosely that his campaign had been very similar to Bush's. He also famously said Bush was speaking the same language against Islamic terrorists that he himself employed. It must be a rude shock for him to discover that for the US President, he is not just a non-entity, but an undesirable one at that.

L.K. Advani must be feeling even more let down by the neo-con Bush establishment he so idolised. The erudite ideologue has never made secret his admiration for Samuel Huntington's Clash of Civilisation thesis. In that provocative essay, Huntington writes: "In the emerging world, relations between states and groups from different civilisations will often be antagonistic. At the micro level the most violent fault lines are between Islam and its orthodox Hindu, African and Western Christian neighbours."

Advani clearly sees India as this "Hindu" entity or else he would not be quoting Huntington quite so often. He did it as recently as March 3 this year when he was chief guest at a function to release the Hindi translation of V.S. Naipaul's India: A Wounded Civilisation. Referring to the Harvard professor's more recent work, Who Are We, Advani said that he wished someone would do a similar work on the essential nature of India as Huntington had done on the US. In fact Clash of Civilisations sits prominently on Advani's desk along with biographies of Israeli leaders like Benjamin Netanyahu and Simon Peres.

Advani's affinities showed up quite often in his actions. He made two trips to Israel and the level of security collaboration between the two countries dramatically increased during his term as home minister. His trip to the US in June 2003 too was revealing. He made an effort to meet all prominent neo-cons, including former Attorney-General John Ashcroft; Donald Rumsfeld called on him. He also tried to meet Paul Wolfowitz, one of Bush's key advisors who has recently been appointed head of the World Bank, but it did not materialise. More crucially, Advani virtually agreed to the US request to send Indian troops to Iraq, though the Vajpayee regime had to quickly backtrack on that after his return to India.

But for all the admiration of the American right, conflict is inevitable when it comes to the US Bible belt's advocacy and financing of Christian conversions in India. This is the main battlefront for the vhp (India's Ku Klux Klan?). Indeed, as Modi and Advani must have learnt, the US has its own agenda and interest groups that determine its actions in the world. They do not need the help of Hindu warriors.

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sSaala... my 2 pegs are wasted..... Behenchoaad Outlook....

I should have guessed that the source is that pathetic rag called OUTLOOK

When I was in India, this rag had just started and I signed up for a trial subscription.. Oh what a blunder. If CNN in USA is the extreme Left and wahcked out liberal bull crap then Outlook is the Indian equivalent behind the leader Times Of India.

About the topic at hand - Well, whatever you say, it was the fcuker Mushy who helped USA during attack on Taliban. When Bush asked Vajpayee to help during Iraq war, Vajpayee said no! We can send our troops on missions to Sri Lanka as peace keeping force but when it came to making friends with the biggest don in the world - the USA - we just pushed forth United Nations! What is UN? Fcuking corrupt Koffee Annan. He is being absolved of his oil for food scam!!

Anyway, we deserve a kick in our ass for not taking aciton on Pakistan when we deserved to attack them post the Parliament terrorist episode.

And this Outlook is full of whore scum who hate Hindus. Simple. Just write anti-Hindu and your rag sells. FCUK .. Behenchhoad.. Hindu log ko gaali dete raaho...

I really like the Muslims in this aspect. However wrong they maybe or however terrorist minded - they are never ashamed to be born Muslim nor criticise another Muslim and will kill for sake of protecting the Muslims.. I wish we Hindus can teach such "ashamed to be born Hindus" a really good lesson..

Oh how I wish that old doddering fool Vajpayee had not left the Mandir agenda...Behenchhooaad Pakistanis will get F-16 and we will keep sucking Putin's dick for defunct Mig 29 and Sukhois! Wah... saala sab se bade bhai USA se dosti karna mangta.. Putin kya zhaanta ukhad lega.. anyway.. saala daaru kam pad gaya.. abhi aur peena padega.. Jaane do.. main to piyela hoon.. tum loag bura nahi manna.....

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sSaala... my 2 pegs are wasted..... Behenchoaad Outlook....

Saala phir se ek cchhaadhan padega peg...good night...
Cool down Cha Pai... Itna tension mat lo.....

This article only shows how Modi's visa fiasco has snubbed the BJP...

Koi kisiko gaali nahi de raha hai....

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Aaaggh.. Feel so dumb right now... Its Monday morning... Hmm.. yesterday I ad abotu 3 drinks when I wrote this.. I was sort of out during the 3rd one.. and I blabbed on.. bad thing.. should never visit ec when I am a bit "high"
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