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Old December 12th, 2010, 02:22 PM
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Re: PM says he is worried about future of parliamentary system

Why is he complaining? Unelected ... he is a fine example of failed system. Can you think of one past pm who was so subservient to the clan?
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Re: PM says he is worried about future of parliamentary system

All of you internet pundits can keep hurting your fingers and wrist as you type furiously against Congress party. The reality is that Congress will be elected once more at the Center.

The people are smart and know that Congress alone can run the country well. So even if they elect someone else at the state level - Gujarat and Bihar, they ensure that Congress comes to power at the Center.
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All of you internet pundits can keep hurting your fingers and wrist as you type furiously against Congress party. The reality is that Congress will be elected once more at the Center.

The people are smart and know that Congress alone can run the country well. So even if they elect someone else at the state level - Gujarat and Bihar, they ensure that Congress comes to power at the Center.
Yes you are right, that we are pundits and general India is fools. In which category do you fall in?

EC, congress may be a pseudo-secular party and good at getting votes, but does that gives right to play with the future of the country Tell me one thing, we are seeing one scam after the other in next election for which party would you like to vote for?

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Is he worried about the future of democracy or of his bekaar corrupt party and himself? Mannu , Pronob and Chiddu were very well aware of what hanky panky was going on as you can read from here. So much for the integrity of the PM...
...letter from former finance secretary and present RBI governor, D Subba.., in November 2007 expressing shock over Rajaís proposal to distribute spectrum in 2008 at 2001 prices and asking him to hold off the process of spectrum allocation, implies that he could not have written this letter without the knowledge of then finance minister, P Chid...
Today Mata ji announced that no JPC will be held and warned that corruption is there in states like Karnataka so bhajapa should be careful. Hell, she is comparing the champions to the incompetent BSY who is a mere pickpocket compared to the maha dakus kaangrace(I)/DMK.... This group of thieves needs to be lynched in public by all honest tax paying citizens of Bharat. Let our hard earned money be used to help educate the illiterate, feed the poor, build roads and hospitals and make this a happier place, instead of this collosal loot going in the form of CWG, Adarsh, 2G, land scam in Chennai, railway scam by railway officials, sex romps of kaangarace patriarch and god knows how many scams that are not yet revealed. Shame, shame, utter shame on all involved....
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Re: PM says he is worried about future of parliamentary system

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Yes you are right, that we are pundits and general India is fools. In which category do you fall in?

EC, congress may be a pseudo-secular party and good at getting votes, but does that gives right to play with the future of the country Tell me one thing, we are seeing one scam after the other in next election for which party would you like to vote for?

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What do I care? I mean, Congress has done a good job for India so far comparing all other countries in South East Asia.

We are doing quite well despite all such scams and supposed scandals. Every democracy has a few scams and scandals. Its ok.
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Re: PM says he is worried about future of parliamentary system

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I can understand that the Opposition needs to protest and demand answers to their questions, but despite the CBI taking action and the Congress party cooperating, our Opposition parties choose to waste time and tax payers money.
if opposition do back down, I will be worried about parliamentary system. At the moment we have proof that we are democracy and the govt cant always have its own way.

btw its very irresponsible of the PM to make such statements when out of the country. very very cheap shot.
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What do I care? I mean, Congress has done a good job for India so far comparing all other countries in South East Asia.
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Re: PM says he is worried about future of parliamentary system

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Why is he complaining? Unelected ... he is a fine example of failed system. Can you think of one past pm who was so subservient to the clan?
not many past PMs from congress who were not from the clan...
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Re: PM says he is worried about future of parliamentary system

does anyone actually know why govt does not want a JPC? Is there an official reason?
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does anyone actually know why govt does not want a JPC? Is there an official reason?
Why UPA fears a JPC

Behind the Congressís adamant stand against forming a Joint Parliamentary Committee (JPC) to probe the 2G spectrum scam is the destabilising reality of numbers in Parliament.

It's learnt that Congress troubleshooters carried out an internal exercise last week only to realise that the ruling combine will effectively be in a minority in any JPC. Even though a JPC is constituted on the basis of proportional representation depending on each party's strength in Parliament, the UPA found itself in a rather peculiar situation.
On their own, the Congress and its UPA allies represented in the government account for 259 seats in Lok Sabha and 91 in Rajya Sabha. Their majority in Lok Sabha is made up by parties extending outside support like the SP, BSP and RJD.
Back of the envelope calculations -- the government did so in a bid to get Parliament to function -- showed that in a 30-member JPC, the Congress along with UPA constituents in the government would get only 14 members.
This would mean representatives of parties like SP and BSP could become key players. The BSP's stunning silence on the issue and SP's participation in thronging the well of the House made the Congress a touch nervous.
A JPC without assured majority control, sources said, raised all sorts of concerns like whether the PM and other senior ministers would be embarrassed through repeated questioning. Even though the chair would belong to the UPA, there could be constant political pressure and the Committee itself could turn into a "political weapon" against the Treasury.
When it comes to forming a JPC, the convention is that members are drawn from both Houses in a 2:1 ratio favouring the Lok Sabha. Since it is based on proportional representation, the ruling combine should have a majority. But in this case, the UPA relies on outside support to make up the last fraction of its majority and that is where the complication is.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, while staking claim, had submitted a list of parties with a total tally of 315 MPs supporting the UPA. These included those supporting from outside. Within the government, the numbers are: Congress 208, Trinamool Congress 19, DMK 18, NCP 9, National Conference 3 and Muslim League 2. This works out to 259 in a House of 545. The rest were made up by SP, BSP and others.
In case of the Upper House, the total tally of parties represented in the government works out to only 91 out of a total strength of 243 members. The other twist is that a party like Lalu Prasad's RJD may not find any representation because it has only four members in Lok Sabha. On the other hand, Samajwadi Party with 22 MPs in the Lok Sabha, BSP with 21 will definitely get representation in any JPC. Herein lies the trouble for the Congress.
The numbers suggest that representatives of the political parties represented in the government will be 7 in case of a 15-member JPC; 14 in case of a 30-member JPC; and only 21 in a 45-member JPC.
Three of the four JPCs constituted by the government in the past -- Bofors (1987), securities scam (1992) and stock market scam (2001) -- had 30 members while the 2003 JPC into the cola case had 15 members.
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Re: PM says he is worried about future of parliamentary system

hmmm not surprised that it has nothing to do with congress' willingness or unwillingness to investigate the 2G scam. "raja and his crimes be damned, we dont want JPC because it is uncomfortable for us"....
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