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Old September 15th, 2006, 06:47 AM
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Pope's Islam Remarks Draw Muslim Furore



Hardly had the Danish Cartoon row simmered down, its the Pope's turn now to enter into a new controversy with the Muslim world.

Pope Benedict XVI has evoked sharp reactions from Muslims worldwide as he implicitly denounced connections between Islam and violence, particularly with regard to jihad, or "holy war" in a theological lecture to the staff and students at the University of Regensburg in his native Bavaria in southern Germany. The comments have provoked an outcry among Muslims in several countries. Many have demanded an immediate apology from the pope to the Muslim world. But the Vatican has declined saying that the Pope’s words weren't meant as a criticism of Islam nor was it intended to look unfavourably on Islam.

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REGENSBURG, Germany (AFP) - Pope Benedict XVI hit out at Islam and its concept of Holy War during one of the last public appearances of his six-day visit to his Bavarian homeland.

The thinly-veiled attack on extremist Islam's justification for terrorism came in a complex theological lecture to staff and students at the University of Regensburg, where the former Joseph Ratzinger taught theology in the 1970s.

Using the words, "Jihad" and "Holy War" in his lecture, the pope quoted criticisms of the Prophet Mohammed by a 14th Century Byzantine Christian emperor, Manuel II.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached," Benedict quoted him as saying in a contemporary debate with a learned Persian.

"The emperor goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable," said Benedict, during his 32-minute lecture on the relationship between faith and reason.

"Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul," he added.


Reiterating his concerns about a modern world "deaf" to God, he warned that other religious cultures saw the West's exclusion of God "as an attack on their most profound convictions".

"A reason which is deaf to the divine and which relegates religion into the realm of subcultures is incapable of entering into the dialogue of cultures," he said.

Although the section of the lecture dealing with Islam was relatively short, its inclusion made his address at Regensburg the most political of his six-day visit, which had previously dealt exclusively with spiritual matters.

Presiding later over an ecumenical prayer meeting with Orthodox Christian and Protestant leaders, the pope led prayers for the success of ongoing discussions with other Churches aimed ultimately at uniting Christians, a clear aim of his pontificate.

At a giant open-air mass earlier Tuesday attended by some 250,000 pilgrims, the pope urged them to stand up for their beliefs in the face of the "hatred and fanaticism" tarnishing religion.

Such an atmosphere made it "important to state clearly the God in whom we believe," the pope said.

The white-haired pontiff waved to the cheering crowd from his popemobile as he arrived for the mass, celebrated atop a giant altar surrounded by priests and choirs.

"Today, when we have learned to recognize the pathologies and life-threatening diseases associated with religion and reason, and the ways that God's image can be destroyed by hatred and fanaticism, it is important to state clearly the God in whom we believe," said the pope.

"Only this God saves us from being afraid of the world and from anxiety before the emptiness of life."

A young man charged towards the altar where the pope was sitting at the end of the mass, but he was stopped by plain-clothes police officers and the pontiff was not in danger, Bavaria's Interior Minister Guenther Beckstein said. The mayor of Regensburg, Hans Schaidinger, said: "It was not a serious disruption to security. It was apparently a young fan, who in his excitement wanted to reach the altar."

Benedict earlier told the congregation at his open-air mass that he had been taken aback by the goodwill of local people, including those who spruced up the house he maintains in nearby Pentling which he will visit on Wednesday.

The Vatican said the pope would spend Wednesday on a private visit with his 82-year-old brother Georg, a retired priest, and visit the cemetery where their parents and sister are buried.

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Re: Pope's Islam remarks draw Muslim Furore

Coodulo pai, you beat me to it... I had created this thread and was just about to post it in Taaza khabar... when I saw your thread.

My comments in my own thread were,

How come terrorist acts (that have been verifiable done by muslims) do not cause such stirs in the muslims world. Possible reasons that I can think of:

1. The media does not go into a frenzy reporting muslim protests of terrorist acts (I know... the muslim echans will jump on this one)
2. Muslims agree with terrorist acts and so do not see the need to protest



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Pope remark offends Muslim leaders

By Ahmad Pathoni
Fri Sep 15, 5:16 AM ET

JAKARTA (Reuters) -
Pope Benedict's comments about Islam could hurt global religious harmony, government and religious leaders in the world's most populous Muslim countries said on Friday.
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A growing chorus of Muslim leaders have called on the Pope to apologize for the remarks he made in a speech in Germany on Tuesday when he used the terms "jihad" and "holy war."

Pakistan's National Assembly, parliament's lower house, unanimously passed a resolution condemning the Pope's comments.

"This statement has hurt sentiments of the Muslims," the resolution said. "This is also against the charter of the
United Nations. This house demands the Pope retract his remarks in the interest of harmony among different religions of the world."

Pakistan is the world's second most populous Muslim nation after Indonesia.

Islamic scholars say the Pontiff's comments show how little he understands Islam and some have said Islamic countries should threaten to break off relations with the
Vatican.

The Vatican issued a statement to say the Pope had never meant to offend Islam.

In his speech at the University of Regensburg, Benedict quoted criticism of Islam and the Prophet Mohammad by 14th century Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus, who wrote that everything Mohammad brought was evil and inhuman, "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

Benedict repeatedly quoted Manuel's argument that spreading the faith through violence is unreasonable, adding: "Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul."

The reaction was swift.

"It is obvious from the statements that the Pope doesn't have a correct understanding of Islam," said Din Syamsuddin, chairman of Muhammadiyah, the second largest Islamic organization in Indonesia.

Syamsuddin told Reuters the remarks could hurt "harmonious" relations between Muslims and Catholics and urged Muslims against reacting excessively.

"Whether the Pope apologizes or not, the Islamic community should show that Islam is a religion of compassion," he said.

Fauzan Al-Anshori, spokesman for the radical Indonesian Mujahideen Council, said the Pope misunderstood Islam and jihad (Islamic holy war or struggle) and challenged him to a dialogue.

"Muslims can't eliminate jihad from the Islamic discourse, the same way Christians can't do away with the doctrine of Trinity," he said.

The Vatican press office said the Pope had not intended to carry out an in-depth study of jihad and Muslim thinking about it, "even less to offend the sensitivity of the Muslim faithful."

TOLERANT RELIGION

Washington's response to September 11, invading
Afghanistan and
Iraq and tightening civil freedoms as part of a wider "war on terror," has created a widespread feeling among Muslims worldwide that their religion is under attack.

A row earlier this year over Danish cartoons that depicted the Prophet Mohammad deepened the sense of a divide between Islamic culture and the West.

Indonesia's Anshori said the recent surge in Muslim radicalism was a response to America's "crusade" against Muslims.

"We believe in respect for each other, freedom for Muslims to practice Islamic teachings and for Christians to practice their religion," he said.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said he was worried the Pope's statements might upset efforts to bring about a rapprochement between West and East.

"He (Aboul Gheit) said he looked forward to intensifying efforts to strengthen the dialogue between civilizations and religions and to avoid anything that is likely to exacerbate confessional and ideological differences," an Egyptian foreign ministry statement said.

Pakistan's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said that anyone who felt that Islam was intolerant or Islam spread through use of force showed ignorance.

"Statements of this nature are very unhelpful in the efforts that we are making to bridge the gap and promote understanding between different religions," he added.

In New Delhi, Syed Ahmed Bukhari, the chief cleric of the historic Jama Masjid, India's largest mosque, extolled Muslims to respond to the Pope's comments.

"No Pope has ever tried to attack the glory of Islam like this Pope," Bukhari said to chants of "Allah-hu-Akbar" (God is Great) by thousands of worshippers at the sprawling mosque.

"Muslims must respond in a manner which forces the Pope to apologize," he added after Friday prayers. He did not elaborate.

(Additional reporting by Zeeshan Haider in Islamabad, Kamil Zaheer in New Delhi, Jonathan Wright in Cairo)
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Muslim anger grows at Pope speech

A statement from the Vatican has failed to quell criticism of Pope Benedict XVI from Muslim leaders, after he made a speech about the concept of holy war.



Speaking in Germany, the Pope quoted a 14th Century Christian emperor who said Muhammad had brought the world only "evil and inhuman" things.

Pakistan's parliament passed a resolution on Friday criticising the Pope for making "derogatory" comments.

"It is clear that the Holy Father's intention is to cultivate a position of respect and dialogue towards other religions and cultures, and that clearly includes Islam," said chief Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi in a statement. But in spite of the statement, the pontiff returned to Rome to face a barrage of criticism, reports the BBC's David Willey in Rome.

The head of the Muslim Brotherhood said the Pope's remarks "aroused the anger of the whole Islamic world".

Violence and faith

The controversy comes on an important day for the Vatican, with Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, former Archbishop of Genoa, taking over as secretary of state. Our correspondent says Pope Benedict, who has been closeted with his chief advisers at his summer residence near Rome, is upset at the way in which his remarks have been interpreted.

But there is no sense of panic at the Vatican, he says, and preparation for the Pope's forthcoming visit to Turkey, a predominantly Muslim secular nation, next November, are going ahead as planned.

In his speech at Regensburg University, the German-born Pope explored the historical and philosophical differences between Islam and Christianity, and the relationship between violence and faith. Stressing that they were not his own words, he quoted Emperor Manuel II Paleologos of the Byzantine Empire, the Orthodox Christian empire which had its capital in what is now the Turkish city of Istanbul.

The emperor's words were, he said: "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." Benedict said "I quote" twice to stress the words were not his and added that violence was "incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul".

"The intention here is not one of retrenchment or negative criticism, but of broadening our concept of reason and its application," he added in the concluding part of his speech. "Only thus do we become capable of that genuine dialogue of cultures and religions so urgently needed today."

'Angry and hurt'

Pakistan's parliament passed a resolution demanding that the Pope retract his remarks "in the interest of harmony between religions".

"The derogatory remarks of the Pope about the philosophy of jihad and Prophet Mohammed have injured sentiments across the Muslim world and pose the danger of spreading acrimony among the religions," the AFP news agency quoted the resolution by the country's national assembly as saying.

The remarks prompted fears of unrest in Indian-administered Kashmir, as a result of which two separatist leaders were put under house arrest.

Meanwhile, the "hostile" remarks drew a demand for an apology from a top religious official in Turkey. Ali Bardakoglu recalled atrocities committed by Roman Catholic Crusaders against Orthodox Christians and Jews, as well as Muslims, in the Middle Ages.

In Egypt, Muslim Brotherhood head Mohammed Mahdi Akef said the Pope's words "do not express correct understanding of Islam and are merely wrong and distorted beliefs being repeated in the West".

The 57-nation Organisation of the Islamic Conference also said it regretted the Pope's remarks.

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This new pope is an @$$(0).Does he think that Christ had said something new, and spreading faith by wealth is ok? Christianity sucks as much as Islam do. The difference is that of 1000yrs. now christianity is being criticized by its own people which will be plight of Islam too. Go to hell you faithmongers.
these guys have put religion on a shopshelf along with Pepsi, coke and Kellog's. infact Islam is just another face of Christianity.
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More muslim duplicity, misplaced outrage, and moral relativism. If they spent a bit of their time correcting their image, old ass germans in funny hats wouldn't have anything to say about them.
The Pukis have passed a resolution calling for an apology. If they passed a few of those when their Ummah beheads someone in Iraq, kills schools girls in Peshawar, gang rapes women in NWFP, commits a homecide bombing in Tel Aviv, blows up trains around the world, people wouldn't see their religion as fomenting fanaticism. Until they do something constructive, instead of holding demonstrations to verify their radicalism, the image of their prophet with a bomb in his turban will be the correct perception.
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Coodulo pai, you beat me to it... I had created this thread and was just about to post it in Taaza khabar... when I saw your thread.

My comments in my own thread were,

How come terrorist acts (that have been verifiable done by muslims) do not cause such stirs in the muslims world. Possible reasons that I can think of:

1. The media does not go into a frenzy reporting muslim protests of terrorist acts (I know... the muslim echans will jump on this one)
2. Muslims agree with terrorist acts and so do not see the need to protest
Thought provoking comments Sane pai.

The Pope's remarks here are justified & he hasn't exactly attacked Islam nor has he severely criticised it. His remarks that "spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable" is right. He apparently had only sought that Muslims learn to live in peace & harmony & co-exist with other mankind. Muslims should in fact give his comments a serious thought than denouncing it.

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Thought provoking comments Sane pai.

I personally feel the Pope's remarks here are justified & he hasn't exactly attacked Islam nor has he severely criticised it. His remarks that "spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable" is right. He apparently had only sought that Muslims learn to live in peace & harmony & co-exist with other mankind. Muslims should in fact give his comments a serious thought than denouncing it.

This new 'sunday rapper' is an Anthony Hopkins lookalike...looks like the icy villain..its a free world and whats so special about saying something about Muslims...if every Friday sermon has to talk about Jews and the nude witches of the west, then why cant the old stick talk about Islamists(not necessarily muslims) and their love for action dramas?

Christianity is not the magna carta either when one looks at history and the conflict between Roman catholics and protestants, and the speed at which new sects are formed everyday...most of the mid west is full of sects whose global population is limited to the street in which they live..

For some reason everything that originates from the middle east has to be pungent...be it the inside fragrance of a jewish skull cap or father xyz's nighty or Mullah peace's green turban...

I suggest a freestyle tag teamwrestling match in VIP Frenchie's only between Pope and Khamenei...tag team partners - Muqtada Sadr for Khamenei and the Senior most Sardar granthi from Golden temple for pope...

Refree will be some Parsee Bawa...
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Major political parties on Friday criticised Pope Benedict XVI for his comments made earlier in the week on Islam and Prophet Mohammed.

Taking strong exception to the remarks, Congress party spokesperson Satyavrat Chaturvedi said: "The Pope should have spoken with more wisdom. He is not merely the head of a religion, he is also the head of a state (Vatican)."

"He has every right to propagate his own religion. But he should not have demeaned another religion nor hurt their sentiments," Chaturvedi told reporters.

Addressing the University of Regensburg in his home country, Bavaria-born Benedict quoted 14th-century Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus who had said: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

Asked if the party demands an apology from the pontiff, Chaturvedi said: "We are not demanding anything. We are leaving it to his wisdom."

The BJP's reaction was stronger. "The pope should immediately clarify his position and if he has actually made the remarks he should apologise," senior party leader Mukthar Abbas Naqvi said.

According to him, the Roman Catholic pontiff should have told the George W. Bush administration to check the "US terrorism" instead of making such remarks against Islam.

"Comments like this from a man holding such a key religious position are capable of creating hurdles in the way of world harmony," Naqvi said.

Christians constitute 2.34 percent or 24 million of India's billion plus population and Roman Catholics are 18 million.

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here we go. Even BJP is in with the apeasement game. Islam sure is a religion of peace...they make people shut up or take their side becuase of their vote might even though what the pope said was absolutely right.
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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -- The Muslim world's scathing reaction to Pope Benedict's comments on Islam is the biggest challenge to face the pontiff yet and raises ...
Sure, they will not place bombs in Italy and the Vatican. But if they do that, then will prove that the pope was right and that Islam is about violence.
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I was just going to ask "Forget teh Pope, look out for Congress as they will immediately condemn the Pope!"

You beat me to it!!

I am not sure, but it can be possible that in a remote place like Sholapur (Maharashtra) the local Congress and Dalit parties will organise a 'bund' and 'rasta roko' like they did last time when Jerry Falwell said something about Islam in America. At that time riots broke out and many rioters were injured and our government compensate them!

So this time too, there may be riots and Congress and sadly BJP too will do anything to appease.

Terminator, please post link to that thread here. You are the Google of eCharcha!
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This new 'sunday rapper' is an Anthony Hopkins lookalike...looks like the icy villain..its a free world and whats so special about saying something about Muslims...if every Friday sermon has to talk about Jews and the nude witches of the west, then why cant the old stick talk about Islamists(not necessarily muslims) and their love for action dramas?

Christianity is not the magna carta either when one looks at history and the conflict between Roman catholics and protestants, and the speed at which new sects are formed everyday...most of the mid west is full of sects whose global population is limited to the street in which they live..

For some reason everything that originates from the middle east has to be pungent...be it the inside fragrance of a jewish skull cap or father xyz's nighty or Mullah peace's green turban...

I suggest a freestyle tag teamwrestling match in VIP Frenchie's only between Pope and Khamenei...tag team partners - Muqtada Sadr for Khamenei and the Senior most Sardar granthi from Golden temple for pope...

Refree will be some Parsee Bawa...
Yaar.. I am happy that the Pope - who is considered the highest autrhority in the Christian world - said something true about Islam. Islam is a death cult with homicidal maniacs as members and founded by a pedophile sadist.
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I just saw an hour ago on Sahara news,

Two groups of supporters of Shahi Imama Bhikhari in Delhi clashed with Some MLA named Shoieb Iqbal's supporters, over this issue.
Police did some laathicharge too.

Go miyabhai's go. Fight with each other.
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Yaar.. I am happy that the Pope - who is considered the highest autrhority in the Christian world - said something true about Islam. Islam is a death cult with homicidal maniacs as members and founded by a pedophile sadist.
Not quite the highest authority in the christian world because of the internal fracticide for e.g. in England its the Archbishop of Canterbury whose the boss above everyone..but anyhow the dude's chair has some legs surely..

Not very sure about all members being homisexuals...some wonderful examples on charcha too...IA...soorma popali..etc...

but yes can definitely add to your description...its a cult with some chakaaaaas chicks...who need a wardrobe revamp...perhaps a wardrobe malfunction too(now and then)...some of them could even change the pope's mind and 'body'....and you could see him saying salaam alaikum before his sunday jig..
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Not quite the highest authority in the christian world because of the internal fracticide for e.g. in England its the Archbishop of Canterbury whose the boss above everyone..but anyhow the dude's chair has some legs surely..

Not very sure about all members being homisexuals...some wonderful examples on charcha too...IA...soorma popali..etc...

but yes can definitely add to your description...its a cult with some chakaaaaas chicks...who need a wardrobe revamp...perhaps a wardrobe malfunction too(now and then)...some of them could even change the pope's mind and 'body'....and you could see him saying salaam alaikum before his sunday jig..
I know the old timers here like IA, etc who are good people. I dont categorise them as Muslims because today Muslims are perceived as all terrorits. And there is a reason for it - the moderate and non-violent types do not stand up and oppose the extremist 'death cult mentality' members of Islam.

Hinduism had some traditions like Sati which might have been relevant in very early days but over time it was stupid. Hindus themselves, spear headed by Raja Ram Mohan Roy, opposed this and today Sati is no longer a part of Hinduism.

The change in Islam has to come from within. Muslims cannot blame the non-Islamic world that they perceive Islam as a death cult terror organisation. They need to revamp their rules and be instep with the times.

However, this message gets lost on them and so .. well, I am not Mahatma Gandhi to understant it all. I call it as I see it - Mohammed was a very sadistic power hungry and a shrewd pedophile who wanted to be supreme among his followers. So he said he is the final release version of the line of prophets and that this trash-rag book was the final version user manual. And the dumb morons still believe in that and continue to act like sadist homicidal maniacs.
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