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Old October 3rd, 2017, 07:00 AM
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And from where did he get such a vast stockpile of arms and ammunition?
I am tempted to say, he prolly had more arms than a regular shop would have. WHO THE FUCK ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE 42 GUNS? And he WASN'T on the radar of security agencies.

Mental health checkup is needed for the gun lobby and politicians supporting the gun lobby.. Few nutcases here and there, but give a mchine gun to anybody other than army/anti-terror squad .. and you're only waiting for such things to happen.
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So many conflicting versions. So he is not ISIS?
Nope, No affiliation of any extremist outfit, He was old resentful psychotic person who for some reason broke down on that particular night. But it seems he knew he was going to end up like this, or else why would he carry one and half dozen of guns with him when he's supposedly on vacation ??? By the number of fatalities and injuries he must have fired 1000 bullets, Who carries that kind of weapon and ammunition with them on vacation ??? Either he decided to go out with a bang, packed accordingly and went to a place where he thought he could kill most number of people before police took him out (committed suicide in the end though) or he must been most overzealous prepper I even heard of.

Anyways thanks to super duper stupid gun laws in USA, that idiot broke 35 years old record of Woo Bum-Kon A south Korean police officer who went on a rampage killing spree in 1982 and killed 56 people before committing suicide. Prima Facie, It seems they are Just suicides But perpetrators had so much unresolved anger, resent that they wanted to kill as many people as they could before they commit suicide, they ended their lives as soon as they realized they can't kill anymore people i.e. people took shelter here-there and are not in firing sight/range plus perpetrator can't go in search of more people as they are surrounded by cops, In their last moment they show, how scared they are, committing suicide, because It was always a suicide.
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Boy ! It’s totally terrifying and Horrifying,…….. It sounds like a “ fataka’s loom footing “ in the vdos and still 99 percent ppl can’t figure it out,… that it’s a non-stop machine-gun firing on da audience, and not fire-crackers ! Long ago one guy had done massacre on school kids,…. later somewhere at Oklahoma bombing everyone thought ( including Bill) thought it was a terrorism,. Some1 psycho / mentally ill was found with some library problem / was a librarian ! Psychos and mental illness and killing the heads for fun, and taking other 50-100 with them and then dying is an another psychopath mania in US… !! Uh ! 20+ yrs ago two idiots ( uncle-nephew ) ( retired army troops trained ) were sniper shooting from miles away from their car hood, and then mobiling/moving from one state to another,… just for fun in our tri-state, east coast area and by the time they were caught,.. 28+ ppl were dead one by one, in those 3+ months,… !!

The whole thing is, in the big and developed nations the gun control is totally impossible,.. even if you ban it,… ppl still have it illegally,… also, in capitalist country and where economy is more concerned than human life and values, they hire least police men and many a times even I have seen and heard tapes in US news, when a person calls 911 and says one guys is trying break my house and I can see him screaming and shouting,.. he is attempting for last 10 minute sand my life is on threat “ and police asks that guy, ( over the phone ) “do you have gun,… shoot him “. ( since ppl are leaving in far mountains and due to low strength of police troops, they can’t reach everywhere instantly ) . Also living among all wild animals like stray cats, deer, croco, snake, raccoons, mountain lions and grizzly attack ( I rear areas ) the cow boys must be given the rights of a Gun as police can not reach everywhere within time, in far areas !

Also study this chart, it talks smthg totally different,..
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Las Vegas shooting: Crowd 'warned you're all going to die'
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A woman in the crowd at the Las Vegas music festival may have given a chilling warning to revellers about the massacre 45 minutes before it took place.

According to a witness identified as Brianna, the woman and her boyfriend had been escorted out of the venue after she pushed her way to the front row and told people they were "all going to die".

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It sounds like this shooter had some kind of modifications to existing, legal guns. There are gat cranks, that and a drum magazine = loads of bullets in the air. I think you can fire around 600-700 rounds per minute with a gat crank, mag size would be the limiter.



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Nope, No affiliation of any extremist outfit, He was old resentful psychotic person who for some reason broke down on that particular night.
Now we read the next few.. sounds retard, your explanation of how things unfolded.
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But it seems he knew he was going to end up like this, or else why would he carry one and half dozen of guns with him when he's supposedly on vacation ??? By the number of fatalities and injuries he must have fired 1000 bullets, Who carries that kind of weapon and ammunition with them on vacation ??? Either he decided to go out with a bang, packed accordingly and went to a place where he thought he could kill most number of people before police took him out (committed suicide in the end though) or he must been most overzealous prepper I even heard of.
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So many conflicting versions. So he is not ISIS?
Don't go by what Dovahkhan pai, he does not know where his head is and where is a*se. Do not believe in rumours and wild news. Just look at the evidence... and the scenario. Everybody just seems to be jumping to conclusions.

Just look at this post by Dovkhannaam pai... this one and the earlier one. He presents all the logic that is there and then makes the exact opposite conclusions. Don't know how he does that time and again. Probably because of that head/a*se switch.


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Nope, No affiliation of any extremist outfit, He was old resentful psychotic person who for some reason broke down on that particular night. But it seems he knew he was going to end up like this, or else why would he carry one and half dozen of guns with him when he's supposedly on vacation ??? By the number of fatalities and injuries he must have fired 1000 bullets, Who carries that kind of weapon and ammunition with them on vacation ??? Either he decided to go out with a bang, packed accordingly and went to a place where he thought he could kill most number of people before police took him out (committed suicide in the end though) or he must been most overzealous prepper I even heard of.

Anyways thanks to super duper stupid gun laws in USA, that idiot broke 35 years old record of Woo Bum-Kon A south Korean police officer who went on a rampage killing spree in 1982 and killed 56 people before committing suicide. Prima Facie, It seems they are Just suicides But perpetrators had so much unresolved anger, resent that they wanted to kill as many people as they could before they commit suicide, they ended their lives as soon as they realized they can't kill anymore people i.e. people took shelter here-there and are not in firing sight/range plus perpetrator can't go in search of more people as they are surrounded by cops, In their last moment they show, how scared they are, committing suicide, because It was always a suicide.

So, without jumping to any conclusions, here seems to be the evidence,

1. Firing from a high-floor room of a hotel.
2. Dead body in the room.
3. Lots of weapons in the room.
4. Dead person had a roommate at the hotel.

Digging deeper,

5. Dead person has lots of weapons at home.

The first few facts point to a plant. But point 5 indicates otherwise. Probably a stooge... who was well groomed to take the place of the fall-guy.

Questions that remain,

1. How long did the firing take place.
2. Were all the guns used?
3. Where is the roommate?
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There is not even a central gun registry in US, and in several state purchases do not need to be reported to any agency. So buying legal arms, lots of them, legally is not difficult in a state with lax laws like Nevada.

Gun shops in Nevada have said that he bought the guns

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Well,.. you should try to understand our Dova saar's psychology and maansik status and stand,.. rather this way,.. ( that's how, i figured it out ! )
Dova's family owns a hugh house, say ambani's mansion like,.. ( so many million INRs' values ) there in Rajasthaan ( Ash can, even do shooting of her HDDCS sort of, .....btw,...who knows even Bhansali might had asked, but Family might had denied / declined for shoot, looking at the script of Sallu farting on terrace and Ash smelling and such scenes in the script-written, also Dova had no interest in Ash, as usual ....yada yada ) Now the family maharathees are in anti-bjp's, giant level of high political field,... ( MP level of statues involved in Politics ) .. may be SAPA, khangress, or Seculars,...i dunn'o,.. ( who knows, perhaps that might be the part of a political process of Dova's islaami-karan, ( force-fitting on home-sample proof based Islam, 4 show-off ! ) to gain vote-bank, like M K Gandhi had used, his son )!!

K . I'm coming to the point,....... so the point I'm trying to say is,.. whenever the talk comes on secular, Rohingya to be accepted, Islam da great, fault-free a peace-ful religion, ISIS can never be involved as those are Shanti-doots / maseehas on the planet ever existed,.... can't do anythg wrong,...etc etc )...... our Dova saar's Balance bigud jaata hai,.. aur, kaala aur dhola ke bich ke antar ko parkh ne mein, woh har-hanmesh, akshar gafalat / dhokha khaa jaate hai,... Otherwise, he is just fine in space and science talks,....!

So, you have to give him a 'variance' ( we rather wear, diff glasses to look n' unst'd at those debates n' talks wid him ) , in that areas,... that's all,..


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3. Where is the roommate?

According to the picture of the suspect that the police is now looking for (Marilou Danley, an accompanying person of the shooter), it looks like neither Islamic nor Black/White supremacy terrorism: Does she look like a product of Chinese + Black ?




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Questions..

Shooting lasted about 10 minutes.. police reached his hotel room door 1 hour 22 minutes after the first 911 calls. Why did he stop shooting for that 1 hour, he had enough guns and bullets? Police didn't shoot from ground knowing people in hotel could come in harm's way.

How did he bring that much heavy machinery so easily in the hotel/casino?

Shooting from 32nd floor is stupid, less striking chances that from a much lower level.. like 4th floor as reported by some.

Every damn person has a smart phone.. why no videos from the street? Like right under the hotel.. 10 pm is peak time on strip.. why no other passerby videos?

This guy was alone, no known human contact for days.. easily could be tied up, guns placed at home, shooting done, bugger was killed in hotel and real culprits escaped.. dead men don't talk.
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In Nevada gun buying / selling is unlimited without any restrictions,.. so it’s understood hotel owner or no body would mind, what kind of business he is in, also Americans believe in privacy , so hotels do not much check in, about what luggage you carry with you,…

Also few other possibility could be that he was not having that plan anyway,.. but after love making with his partner when he found so much disturbance noise-nuisance is disturbing him and hence he took sudden strange action and his partner also left and ran away seeing his changed mood to this level,..

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Or,..

It can also be that he was having plan of well-plotted with other friends with each standing in each window and they never showed up and / or perhaps also ran away without doing operation,..

Also, pro'ly that lady partner shot him and ran away, ( hence the shooting stopped ) when she knew and saw that this guy has gone mad and will kill thousands.....!!

Well,.. only the ( bhaagi gayi huyi Honey-preet ) ya fir,.. Hotels' CCTV camera can reveal the secrets,...( provided the Hotel Manager was also not corrupted n' part of the game ) , Otherwise again it would be a Sunanda's murder case,.... Tharoor's planned murder game,...

Here comes the night,...... A Flight comes from middle east,... a black car stops by, at Hotel door,......
two ( Men in Black - gets off da Black car ) trained un-armed, medically proficient body-builder, injection specialist men, from Dubai enters the hotel and then approaches to Sunanda's room,......
Poisonous injection is forcefully given,... zapa-zapi and wrist scratches occurs,..pillow is pressed om her mouth and face,...... She even poos and pisses to struggle her best, to survive from life and death attack,...
but some how they makes it,....injects poison via her wrist and mouth-feed,.... kills her,... gets the work done,...
and leave to Middle East by over-night flight,....

Sunanda's room is changed, she and the scene is dressed up and is taken to another room, ( with new dress ) .... murder scene is cleaned,.. dressed up, touch-up happens,..... Piss is cleaned from floor ( Bhayi, jaan aisi aasaani se thodi jaati hai,.. it struggles all it can ! ) ,....evidences been destroyed,.. Hotel's CCTV footage cameras is also changed and morphed,....

But the same hi-fi talented group-guys involved,( for knowing ) who were Tharoor's friends, also had high respect for Swami, and hence the whole plot is revealed and understood about how it was executed,..... but the politicians thinks,.. she was a whore n' bad-chalan aurat anyway,..and also a Canadian citizen,...... also on da other hand, were struggling rather to bring Tharoor in BJP,........... so no one interfered in his and her ( dead body's ) private matter !
Murder case was cleaned-wiped-swept underneath the carpet, in a crystal clean fashion.

Somehow the postmortem report expertise specialist Dean, refuses to sell himself for da sake of money, ( salute, man ) and says,... "Yess,.. Poison was found in blood-post-Mortened organs, which was injected ". and he daringly keeps, sticks and adheres to his unchangeable words, despite of all threats ! Politics also ignores and deafens him too, calling him a dumbo, uneducated, unprofessional, practitioner, knowing not @ what he is doing !

Was there also a repeat-plot here, at Las- Vegas?

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Videos on youtube show flashes of light matching the shooting sounds coming from some 10 floors below at least. While absolutely no gun flshes from his bedroom

Or,..

Maybe he was tired or wounded by his own guns ? I've read that the guns were handworkly "improved" to shoot more bullets but it made them so hot that he had to change guns quickly, maybe he burnt himself or intoxicated himself with the steams of the guns in his small room ?

Number deceased seems to have held at 59. There were 45 people still critical at Las Vegas area hospitals as of early this afternoon.

The lack of information is obviously disturbing on this one. The shooters girlfriend is returning from Philippines. Maybe there will be something from that. But I guess it would just amount to an insight on the mass killer's obvious psychopathy at this point. His father was also one, and it can run in family history like many other conditions, mental or physical.

NY times also reporting the shooter had a special "bump stock" device on his weaponry that could deliver hundreds of rounds a minute.

I am wondering why the police haven't detained the woman who screamed that everyone in the crowd was going to die.


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Wasn't a small room, was a huge room actually.

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btw,...Those lights were of something different,...

Videos already show that the light was flashing during all 3 days of the music festival. You can see it during the news coverage hours after the shooting.

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Most probably, after 10 mins of ,.. say 300-350 rounds per minute,... his gun barrel got unbearably melting hot, or too much smoke to handle for visibility,..... he might had also thought, now within 1 minutes COP gusy will come here and he will be caught so let me shoo'n self,...
or perhaps,..

he must have thought that,... that by this total 3000
bullets rounds at least like that WTC tragedy,.. he has killed 1500+ people easily,..in this dense crowd,... so that's good enough now,..... and tomorrow this incident will be more famous than WTC and his name with superior to Osama,... yada yada,....
and he took a break,.. and shoot himself,..

and, if not, someone else did the work,.... made a way, and killed him and made a show-off like he( 64 yrs old budhdha ) did,..
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He, who lives by a Sword,...... Dies by a Sword !
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He, who lives by a Gun,...... Dies by a Gun !

The point is, nothing makes America unique, other than it's lax gun control.

Europe and Australia have migrants. Sydney has had it's share of race riots. No one died, because no one had guns. Neither the good guys, nor the bad guys. I don't live in Europe, but from what I hear they also have a habit of importing people from places less desirable than Mexico. You don't see daily mass murders there either.

It's not poverty, all countries have poor people.

It's not immigration, all western countries have immigrants, some with significantly higher proportions of immigrants than the USA. (as a side note, how the **** did this become an argument? this guy, nor the perpetrators of the vast majority of gun violence are not immigrants to the US).

It's not mental health. All countries have people with poorly controlled mental health problems.

It's not proximity to other crazy countries. Europe has Turkey and ******* Syria at it's doorstep, not to mention Africa being just a short dinghy trip away.

There are two factors that make the USA unique.
1) The lack of any semblance of reasonable gun control
2) The culture which worships gun ownership as a sign of 'freedom'




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Now we read the next few.. sounds retard, your explanation of how things unfolded.
FBI profilers also working on similar ideas, Brain of psychos aren't actually very neat and logical places.

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Don't go by what Dovahkhan pai, he does not know where his head is and where is a*se. Do not believe in rumours and wild news. Just look at the evidence... and the scenario. Everybody just seems to be jumping to conclusions.

Just look at this post by Dovkhannaam pai... this one and the earlier one. He presents all the logic that is there and then makes the exact opposite conclusions. Don't know how he does that time and again. Probably because of that head/a*se switch.

So, without jumping to any conclusions, here seems to be the evidence,

1. Firing from a high-floor room of a hotel.
2. Dead body in the room.
3. Lots of weapons in the room.
4. Dead person had a roommate at the hotel.

Digging deeper,

5. Dead person has lots of weapons at home.

The first few facts point to a plant. But point 5 indicates otherwise. Probably a stooge... who was well groomed to take the place of the fall-guy.

Questions that remain,

1. How long did the firing take place.
2. Were all the guns used?
3. Where is the roommate?
Answer of first question is obvious from bystanders account

Second one must been figured out prima facie as soon as law enforcement entered the room and later confirmed by lab.

Third answer would be a guess, He was probably staying with a woman in her fifties, But what she was supposed to do once she realize her wealthy but deranged roommate is going to open fire on crowd, maybe she ran off.


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Questions..

Shooting lasted about 10 minutes.. police reached his hotel room door 1 hour 22 minutes after the first 911 calls. Why did he stop shooting for that 1 hour, he had enough guns and bullets? Police didn't shoot from ground knowing people in hotel could come in harm's way.

How did he bring that much heavy machinery so easily in the hotel/casino?

Shooting from 32nd floor is stupid, less striking chances that from a much lower level.. like 4th floor as reported by some.

Every damn person has a smart phone.. why no videos from the street? Like right under the hotel.. 10 pm is peak time on strip.. why no other passerby videos?

This guy was alone, no known human contact for days.. easily could be tied up, guns placed at home, shooting done, bugger was killed in hotel and real culprits escaped.. dead men don't talk.
I think, He shot as many people as he could in 10 minutes, nearly 600 people, Remaining people must have taken temporary refuse somewhere they were out of shooting sight, another possibility was he might have ran out of bullets, afterall he shot for nearly 10 minutes nonstop, he used bump stock to change his semi automatic weapon into fully automatic weapons capable of firing 400+ bullets every minute, running out of bullets is a real possibility here.

That's the one that amazes me, how could a deranged man bring 2 dozen guns and thousands of bullets in his room without raising any alarm. Answer might lie in fact that Las Vegas hosts world's largest gun show organized by Nation Shooting Sports foundation, So anybody carrying that many weapon and ammunition is not an uncommon sight there.

Just like previous question, I can't offer any satisfactory explanation, Along with last one, this too might indicate some conspiracy.
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