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View Poll Results: Will Modi Bring India Out Of The Manmohanic Mess Of The UPA As PM?
Yes, he has the proven strength to do so. 10 83.33%
No, he cannot win powerful regional allies 0 0%
Maybe, if he gets at least 190+ seats for the BJP 2 16.67%
India is down and out no one can bring it out of the downward spiral. 0 0%
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In India, thanks to the quality of the 'Aam Aadmi', every political roadblock can be removed with some 500/- notes, bewda and biryani!
As for 'economic emancipation' bringing peace, Osama didn't start out as a beggar!
It is nobody's case that trouble is fomented by a small %age of the population; but, in that case, those from amongst whom such rotten eggs emerge have this responsibility to be extremely severe and ruthless in getting rid of these eggs----and those who 'cooperate' with these eggs.
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As for Modi, personally, I believe he will do a great job if handed over the job of PM a hundred times better than Sonia Gandhi + Manmohan Singh. Modi's attitude is clearly superior to that of S. Gandhi/MMS. These people have delivered bad governance filled with scams. They don't care about accountability.
The Gujarat experiment utterly failed... There is not a single city in Gujarat which can be termed as world class.... Why even world class, NOT even best in India.... And all of that when Gujarat was handed over to Mr. Modi as already the best state in India...!!! And there are no coalition compulsions there like in Centre.... Its just a one man show.... One man rule....!! Still, NOT ONE city in Gujarat is the best, even in India, let alone world class....!! The transformation is just from 19 to 20.... Not 19 to 38.... Speaks volumes about the hype....!!
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The Gujarat experiment utterly failed... There is not a single city in Gujarat which can be termed as world class.... Why even world class, NOT even best in India.... And all of that when Gujarat was handed over to Mr. Modi as already the best state in India...!!! And there are no coalition compulsions there like in Centre.... Its just a one man show.... One man rule....!! Still, NOT ONE city in Gujarat is the best, even in India, let alone world class....!! The transformation is just from 19 to 20.... Not 19 to 38.... Speaks volumes about the hype....!!
In a country where aam people do not get basic rights , having a transformation from 19 - 20 , I will take it ..

Atleast Modi is not like Laloo, who sucked Bihar dry ... Atleast he is giving good governance and not being greedy and stealing from the aam aadmi ..

Congress only can speak of aam aadmi ... not do anything .. why?
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In a country where aam people do not get basic rights , having a transformation from 19 - 20 , I will take it ..

Atleast Modi is not like Laloo, who sucked Bihar dry ... Atleast he is giving good governance and not being greedy and stealing from the aam aadmi ..

Congress only can speak of aam aadmi ... not do anything .. why?
So are we now comparing The God to Laloo....?? Sorry Jai, but ten years was a long time for a Party with 2/3rd Majority to change the entire facade of Gujarat... So if he can take Gujarat from 19 to 20 with 2/3 Majority in his pocket; what is the likelihood of him taking India anywhere with ten coalition partners with divergent interests....??
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So are we now comparing The God to Laloo....?? Sorry Jai, but ten years was a long time for a Party with 2/3rd Majority to change the entire facade of Gujarat... So if he can take Gujarat from 19 to 20 with 2/3 Majority in his pocket; what is the likelihood of him taking India anywhere with ten coalition partners with divergent interests....??
So just because Modi took Gujarat from 19 - 20 , he is not capable of leading India. But MMS who even after 8 years of rule , is still weak as he was when he became PM , and you will see him take a third term , is it?

Sorry , I would support a PM who can take strong and important decisions on his own and only take advise from his peers. Atleast we see progress from Modi , but did not see any from Congress ..
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So are we now comparing The God to Laloo....?? Sorry Jai, but ten years was a long time for a Party with 2/3rd Majority to change the entire facade of Gujarat... So if he can take Gujarat from 19 to 20 with 2/3 Majority in his pocket; what is the likelihood of him taking India anywhere with ten coalition partners with divergent interests....??
So you are assuming he cannot get 2/3 majority at the center . What if he gets 2/3rds majority ? Will you then support him for PM . Because he has a track record for progress , even though miniscule
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So just because Modi took Gujarat from 19 - 20 , he is not capable of leading India. But MMS who even after 8 years of rule , is still weak as he was when he became PM , and you will see him take a third term , is it?

Sorry , I would support a PM who can take strong and important decisions on his own and only take advise from his peers. Atleast we see progress from Modi , but did not see any from Congress ..
What charismatic change has Gujarat seen which was already not there before he assumed power or which other states have not seen....!! And MMS has been operating under the coalition pressures.... You cannot extrapolate the performance of Modi with 2/3rd Majority with that of a coalition government....!!

Infact, talking of progress from congress...?? Well, UPA governments have registered very high growth rates - higher than NDA regimes.... I've posted the link in some other post recently....!! Even when the world was under recession, India did register an impressive growth rate of 8%....!! Nuclear Power Deal for the nation is again commendable... That's the first step towards reducing the reliance on Oil and Gas....!! This government has taken first steps ever to reduce direct taxation and increase Indirect Taxes in each budget....!! The latest example being the rise in Service Tax and Excise Duties from 10.3 to 12.36%.... Yes, progress is slow and I would want it faster still....

But just an 'assumption' that Modi will do wonders, stands hollow.... I would rather think that Sheila Dixit or Chanda Babu Naidu did the right things at the right times and they stand taller today....!!

I would have expected my Ahmedabad to be a leader not a follower to Hyderabad....!! But sadly, it hasnt really happened...!! And all that INSPITE of Gujaratis already being supportive, amicable, skilled business community and traditionally progressive....!!!
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So you are assuming he cannot get 2/3 majority at the center . What if he gets 2/3rds majority ? Will you then support him for PM . Because he has a track record for progress , even though miniscule
With 2/3 rd Majority, I would prefer Sheila Dixit to be a PM because her show of transformation is far too bigger.... Or even Chandra Babu Naidu who acted at the right time.... Modi's action is a delayed action.... And he's missed the bus....
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The Gujarat experiment utterly failed... There is not a single city in Gujarat which can be termed as world class.... Why even world class, NOT even best in India.... And all of that when Gujarat was handed over to Mr. Modi as already the best state in India...!!! And there are no coalition compulsions there like in Centre.... Its just a one man show.... One man rule....!! Still, NOT ONE city in Gujarat is the best, even in India, let alone world class....!! The transformation is just from 19 to 20.... Not 19 to 38.... Speaks volumes about the hype....!!
WTF kind of dumbass logic is this?

Its not about one or two city.
Its about the progress of the whole state.


Can you name an Indian city which is WORLD CLASS????

And if that city IS world class, then what about the rest of that state?
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So you have given MMS a very good excuse for his shortcomings . India having a 8% growth rate under recession was not Congress's strength . If Congress was that impressive, why did everything get so damn expensive. Or is that not Congress's fault?

Nuclear deal was a good thing . But how much power has it generated yet? The gas deal would have been even better , and was much more easily viable in my opinion.

I do not know if Modi would do wonders. But the fact is we need a replacement for MMS . Naidu saheb may have done a good job , but currently does not have the support. Sheila Dikshit maybe yeah . But Modi has a following, he can garner support for himself . And he does have good credentials. Good enough to be given a chance to prove himself .
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Just being given the best state in India , does not mean the state runs itself . It still needs someone who can make sure that the machinery runs smoothly and take the tactical action as and when required. That was why I brought Laloo , which is a good example of how a bad CM can literally ruin a state. The state of Gujarat understands this , and hence they bring Modi to power.

Now nationally people have noticed this , hence they are fielding Modi to be a candidate . If Congress can field an incompetent candidate like Rahul to be PM, Modi atleast does have a record of good governance. And what;s to say he cannot excel as PM?
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WTF kind of dumbass logic is this?

Its not about one or two city.
Its about the progress of the whole state.


Can you name an Indian city which is WORLD CLASS????

And if that city IS world class, then what about the rest of that state?
None but they didnt have the kind of head start like Modi had ten years ago....!! And still many have manged to creep up to the standards of Ahmedabad and Baroda today.... And many have surpassed them.... No metro in last ten years.... No decent airport in last ten years.... No decent Public transport in last ten years..... Been to Astodia recently...?? Its still the same old thing that used to be ten years ago....!!! The RTO of Ahmedabad is still the same old story.... Had been there two years ago.... The development of North South Highway is due to the centrally planned DMRC (Delhi Mumbai Road Corridor).... What is the condition of trains between Ahmedabad and Baroda and Surat....?? Still its one intercity train between Baroda and Ahmedabad...!! And whatever development you see is a part of larger Infra boom that is taking place today even in states like Bihar....!! Real estate, yes.... Farmers in Gujarat earned valuable cash because of The Narmada canal where they got huge compensations.... NRIs have pumped in money to buy huge houses.... But that's happening in Navi Mumbai too....!! Housing construction everywhere....!!

So when we talk about final velocity, we must keep the initial velocity V0 in mind.... V0 for Gujarat was traditionally Very high.... Highly enterprising community....!! Talk about Nitish, yes one can see some transformation taking place there....!!! Why cant we think of Nitish as the CM with 2/3rd Majority....??
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So you have given MMS a very good excuse for his shortcomings . India having a 8% growth rate under recession was not Congress's strength . If Congress was that impressive, why did everything get so damn expensive. Or is that not Congress's fault?

Nuclear deal was a good thing . But how much power has it generated yet? The gas deal would have been even better , and was much more easily viable in my opinion.

I do not know if Modi would do wonders. But the fact is we need a replacement for MMS . Naidu saheb may have done a good job , but currently does not have the support. Sheila Dikshit maybe yeah . But Modi has a following, he can garner support for himself . And he does have good credentials. Good enough to be given a chance to prove himself .
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Just being given the best state in India , does not mean the state runs itself . It still needs someone who can make sure that the machinery runs smoothly and take the tactical action as and when required. That was why I brought Laloo , which is a good example of how a bad CM can literally ruin a state. The state of Gujarat understands this , and hence they bring Modi to power.

Now nationally people have noticed this , hence they are fielding Modi to be a candidate . If Congress can field an incompetent candidate like Rahul to be PM, Modi atleast does have a record of good governance. And what;s to say he cannot excel as PM?
Not sure, if he's 'good' because of the controversies or his development drives....!!

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Anyways, you can have your candidate as PM.... Personally, I would have wished to see My City of Ahmedabad as the best in the country atleast.... Its best even today for me cos of Nostalgia but sadly NOT because of the development it deserved....
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