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Old December 9th, 2015, 09:33 AM
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Re: Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the US. Is he racist?

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Do I think Trump is right? Maybe he is honest about his feelings but on a political stage, such statements - however obvious and honest - cannot be made without consequences.
You did not answer your own question. Do you think he is right
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  1. West has killed many more & destroyed many countries.
Som.e sections of Sangh Parivar, particularly Swadeshi Jagaran Manch have similar view of the west.

The desi whatsapp world seems to have a hate affair with 'Mulitnationals' and a love affair with NASA.
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Re: Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the US. Is he racist?

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I dont know if Trump is racist, but one thing for sure - He is totally open about what he is feeling and thinking. It takes guts to make a statement like he did. I am quite certain that a large section of the general populace thinks what he is thinking but cannot say it openly for fear of the politically correct brigade which will make life hell.

Do I think Trump is right? Maybe he is honest about his feelings but on a political stage, such statements - however obvious and honest - cannot be made without consequences.
Even a drunkard is open in expressing his views and opinion, It doesn't make them right, Even if masses feel same way.

Truth always remains the truth despite allegations, mockery, ridicule and hatred. There is not slightest amount of doubt in any intellect's brain that problem of Islamic extremists we are facing is entirely created by CIA and other NATO agencies, Starting from supporting erection of illegal state of Israel to support of Jihadist groups, invasion of countries to settle individual grudges, destabilizing regimes not having good terms with USA, List is endless.

Masses can never decide what's right, If everybody had that ability, There would been no need of intellect like me Solution lies in my siggie itself, Make me ruler of the world
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Old December 10th, 2015, 04:43 AM
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Re: Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the US. Is he racist?

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There is not slightest amount of doubt in any intellect's brain that problem of Islamic extremists we are facing is entirely created by CIA and other NATO agencies, Starting from supporting erection of illegal state of Israel to support of Jihadist groups, invasion of countries to settle individual grudges, destabilizing regimes not having good terms with USA, List is endless.

Masses can never decide what's right, If everybody had that ability, There would been no need of intellect like me Solution lies in my siggie itself, Make me ruler of the world
Read first para and second. I mean its like you don't even have an iota of intellect or brains. IQ and sense .. Those are foreign words for you.
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Re: Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the US. Is he racist?

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Som.e sections of Sangh Parivar, particularly Swadeshi Jagaran Manch have similar view of the west.
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Everyone knows that west is not 'perfect' neither does it claim to be. West is playing politics and exploiting who it can for its benefit. Politics, wars & power play are as old as humanity. Nothing new there.

What is 'new' is the divine declaration of X as evil, Y as perfect and (there4) Y should finish off X (which can never be good because it is divinely foretold to be evil)
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Re: Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the US. Is he racist?

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Even a drunkard is open in expressing his views and opinion, It doesn't make them right, Even if masses feel same way.

Truth always remains the truth despite allegations, mockery, ridicule and hatred. There is not slightest amount of doubt in any intellect's brain that problem of Islamic extremists we are facing is entirely created by CIA and other NATO agencies, Starting from supporting erection of illegal state of Israel to support of Jihadist groups, invasion of countries to settle individual grudges, destabilizing regimes not having good terms with USA, List is endless.

Masses can never decide what's right, If everybody had that ability, There would been no need of intellect like me Solution lies in my siggie itself, Make me ruler of the world
Just so you know, you parroting the same line about your 'intellect' is not funny.

Masses can never decide what's right - this is correct.

The mass of "ummah" has however decided that kufr is evil, Israel is illegitimate, ROP is perfect and many more things which you know better.

I hope you can sense some contradiction above.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 07:33 AM
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Re: Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the US. Is he racist?

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Just so you know, you parroting the same line about your 'intellect' is not funny.

Masses can never decide what's right - this is correct.

The mass of "ummah" has however decided that kufr is evil, Israel is illegitimate, ROP is perfect and many more things which you know better.

I hope you can sense some contradiction above.
Kufr means disbelief, Israel is illegitimate, Islam is perfect.

You got two right
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Re: Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the US. Is he racist?

More UK Muslims in Islamic State than British Army: Donald Trump

Donald Trump continues to make controversial remarks.

London: Donald Trump, a Republican contender for US presidential elections, is leaving no stone unturned to infuriate UK nationals.

Trump has now alleged that more Muslims in Britain join the Islamic State terror group than the Kingdom's armed forces.

The remarks came as a petition demanding Trump be barred from entering the UK amassed 500,000 signatures.

The petition was started after Trump's highly controversial remarks made during campaign in the United States he had said that Muslims be banned from entering the US.

As per the Daily Mail, the 69-year-old US Republican presidential candidate tweeted a link to a magazine article on Thursday that referenced the claim.

The article had quoted British MP Khalid Mahmood as saying last year that there were some 2,000 British jihadis.

And as per the British Ministry of Defence, there are around 600 British Muslims in the armed forces.
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Re: Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the US. Is he racist?

So finally this fence-sitter/balanced/confused take

- Consistent with his earlier stands, he loves being politically incorrect and is not scared of making such statements Kudos for that
- He has identified the problem right. Normal, peace loving folks suddenly turn peaceful. the latest guys had no criminal record and so on
- But his solution is outlandish and impractical, though he has been wise enough to put some disclaimers or conditions on it and there is a slim chance he will actually implement it. Any one remember David Coleman Headley?? He is right in saying that US 'Must figure out what to do'. I think i mentioned in some post years back, but the only country which seems to have figured it out is Singapore. There are 15% peaceful guys and while it had a history of riots decades back, since the 'Lee model' of a 'fine city', it has managed to avoid issues from peaceful folks. :Touchwood: for it
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Re: Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the US. Is he racist?

Dont you feel Donald Trump's campaign is the Modi way one sided statement "Congress mukt Bharat"
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Dont you feel Donald Trump's campaign is the Modi way one sided statement "Congress mukt Bharat"
muslim yukt amreeka Trump saying what people not say aloud but think in mind.
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More UK Muslims in Islamic State than British Army: Donald Trump

Donald Trump continues to make controversial remarks.

London: Donald Trump, a Republican contender for US presidential elections, is leaving no stone unturned to infuriate UK nationals.

Trump has now alleged that more Muslims in Britain join the Islamic State terror group than the Kingdom's armed forces.

The remarks came as a petition demanding Trump be barred from entering the UK amassed 500,000 signatures.

The petition was started after Trump's highly controversial remarks made during campaign in the United States he had said that Muslims be banned from entering the US.

As per the Daily Mail, the 69-year-old US Republican presidential candidate tweeted a link to a magazine article on Thursday that referenced the claim.

The article had quoted British MP Khalid Mahmood as saying last year that there were some 2,000 British jihadis.

And as per the British Ministry of Defence, there are around 600 British Muslims in the armed forces.
in fact one solution is that muslims should be banned from the armed forces and police and paramilitary . that way even if their population increases , at least the military or police can be brought into action if they resort to revolt or separatism in the areas they are majority in . lack of muslims in armed forces police etc with ensure that at least they will punish the perpetrators in an impartial way without taking their side . luckily the indian armed forces have only 2 percent muslims .
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luckily the indian armed forces have only 2 percent muslims .
conjecture or fact? what about ajam khan saying the peaks of Kargil were protected by muslim solders
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conjecture or fact? what about ajam khan saying the peaks of Kargil were protected by muslim solders

https://darkindia.wordpress.com/2008...n-army-only-2/

http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/indias-muslim-soldiers/

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army give an exact Muslim figure of 29,093 last month? The figure is backed by a retired lieutenant-general who says the Muslims are 2 per cent.
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According to CNN IBN’s Minority Report, of India’s one million soldiers only 3 percent are Muslims, or roughly 29,000 soldiers in all. And if the troops serving in the Jammu & Kashmir Light Infantry (JAK LI), are subtracted (50 percent of whom are Muslim troops), that percentage is much lower. With only 29,000 fit for the army out of 150 million Muslims in the country,
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Peacefuls always keep counting their % everywhere. While it must be pitiful to live in such a doubtful & fearful state of mind perpetually, the educated peacefuls should look at the state of affairs where peacefuls are almost 100% & continue to live in their own world.
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