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Old June 1st, 2011, 07:35 PM
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Afzal Guru has the support and backing of so many from India and Kashmir, that his punishment of death by hanging for committing the Parliament attacks will never be executed.

Our government did not have the spine before and will surely pussy foot about this till the next elections are over. And even after that, the situation will not change. Kashmir problem will last another 100 years and wont be solved as such. So Afzal Guru will have a very long life in prison. So will Ajmal Kasab!

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Published: Thursday, Jun 2, 2011, 0:29 IST
By Ishfaq-ul-Hassan | Place: Srinagar | Agency: DNA

Separatists have warned the government of a “strong reaction” if parliament attack convict Afzal Guru is hanged.

The warning comes after the BJP demanded Guru’s mercy petition which is pending before the president be rejected.

“We believe Guru has not got a fair trial. If he is hanged, there will be a strong reaction in Kashmir. This will tantamount to war on the core of Kashmiri nation. No Kashmiri will tolerate this injustice and there is bound to have a reaction on ground,” said Syed Saleem Geelani, spokesman of moderate faction of Hurriyat led by Mirwaiz Umar Farooq.

Saleem noted that Guru’s execution will only complicate the problems in Kashmir. “We have an example of Maqbool Bhat who was hanged in 1984. New Delhi thought they achieved their goal but little realised that it will give birth to thousands of Maqbool Bhats,” he said.

Hurriyat hawks too have jumped into the bandwagon saying the communal forces in India have no respect for Kashmiris or Muslims and their aim is to occupy land and nothing else.

“If communal forces have their way they will kill every Muslim and every Kashmiri. The government had thought by hanging Maqbool Bhat in 1984 they will kill the sentiment for azadi. But it proved a mirage for them. They are mistaken this time too,” said Ayaz

Akbar, spokesperson of Hurriyat led by Syed Ali Shah Geelani.
Guru along with Showkat Guru, his wife Afshan Guru and Delhi University teacher Abdul Rahman Geelani was charged with planning the attack on the parliament on December 13, 2001. The Supreme Court later upheld the death sentence of Guru but acquitted Rahman Geelani and Afshan. Showkat who was sentenced to 10 years of imprisonment was released recently after completing his jai term.

After the apex court verdict, Guru’s wife Tabasum and son Ghalib met former president APJ Abdul Kalam and sought pardon for the parliament attack convict.

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Let me try to understand this. This guy can be in prison for a long long time... maybe for life... and nobody has a problem with that. But hang this guy.... and the whole of Kashmir... and maybe even India... will burn Talk about screwed-up chewtiyas... really, how much more screwed up can you get
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how much money we spend per year to keep him safe in jail...?

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how much money we spend per year to keep him safe in jail...?

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For Kasab the numbers are into crore plus till date.
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we should have a long term plan for managing such 'important people'

India should construct an Air conditioned high security Museum in New Delhi and host all these 'important people' there. They should be given access to their friends and families. It could be a good terror tourism spot which can generate lot of money for our government. Govt. should think seriously on those lines
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For Kasab the numbers are into crore plus till date.
wrong! we did not hire additional manpower, buildings, roads or machinery for that 99% by using existing facilities.. Ok men hours wasted but that would have been wasted in other way even such case is nit there... Judiciary and Prison to the criminals is good sign for strong democracy..
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... Judiciary and Prison to the criminals is good sign for strong democracy..

dude..they have been sentenced to death ...question is why they are in prison even after death sentence ?
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wrong! we did not hire additional manpower, buildings, roads or machinery for that 99% by using existing facilities.. Ok men hours wasted but that would have been wasted in other way even such case is nit there... Judiciary and Prison to the criminals is good sign for strong democracy..
Mumbai has a Metro Rail project in full swing. Google for MMRDA and Mumbai.

Now this metro rail has to pass by Arthur Road Jail. Do you know they changed the route and shifted construction for 'security' reasons as Mr. Kasab is housed there. Recently a news story said that the Maharashtra government was shocked to get a bill from the central forces who are on guard duty at Arthur Road jail for Kasab's security. Now they are going to rely only on local police to provide the security.

The special cell, the underground tunnel and the special courtroom constructed within Arthur Road jail has also cost a lot of money. I can understand security measures and expenses but after the courts have declared the death penalty, how long before you actually follow through?

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Cost of keeping Kasab alive: Rs45cr & counting
Prafulla Marpakwar, TNN, Feb 22, 2011, 02.31am IST

MUMBAI: Keeping 26/11 gunman Ajmal Amir Kasab alive is proving to be rather expensive. So far, Rs 45 crore has been poured into his security, which includes special jail and hospital cells. Since the daily expenditure is Rs 9 lakh, one can only imagine the cumulative cost in 2018. The year is when his case will come up for consideration unless it is given precedence over 27 mercy petitions filed since 1997.

The figures were given to TOI on Monday by a senior home department official. "Certainly, there is sharp criticism of this huge expenditure incurred by the department, but it was essential. Because Kasab is alive, we were able to prove the role of Pakistan," he said.

A week after Kasab was arrested, he was shifted to Arthur Road Jail from crime branch lockup. When the authorities realized that the security arrangement in the jail was inadequate for Kasab, a special cell was set up for him with the help of leading experts. The cell is so strong that nothing will happen to it even if it is bombed, the official said.


Another special cell was made in the prison ward of J J Hospital. But for security reasons, Kasab was never admitted there. Doctors attend to him in jail, the official said. "He suffers from chronic ailments. We have had to spend a huge amount on his medicines. In addition, we deployed two doctors on round-the-clock duty."

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Mumbai has a Metro Rail project in full swing. Google for MMRDA and Mumbai.

Now this metro rail has to pass by Arthur Road Jail. Do you know they changed the route and shifted construction for 'security' reasons as Mr. Kasab is housed there. Recently a news story said that the Maharashtra government was shocked to get a bill from the central forces who are on guard duty at Arthur Road jail for Kasab's security. Now they are going to rely only on local police to provide the security.

The special cell, the underground tunnel and the special courtroom constructed within Arthur Road jail has also cost a lot of money. I can understand security measures and expenses but after the courts have declared the death penalty, how long before you actually follow through?

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Cost of Kasab's security a national issue: Maharashtra tells Centre

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Mumbai: The Maharashtra government has requested the Centre to waive the Rs-10.8 crore-bill the Arthur Jail here received from the Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force for the deployment of its forces as part of the stringent security measures for the guarding of the 26/11 gunman Ajmal Amir Kasab.

Kasab, the only surviving gunman of the Mumbai terror strike on November 26, 2008, has been sentenced to death.

“Joint responsibility”

“We have written to the Centre asking that [the charges be waived]. We have said this [Kasab's security] is a joint responsibility and a national issue. If the Centre says no, [and] we have to pay, then we will decide what further course of action to take,” a Home Department official said on Monday.

State Home Minister R.R. Patil said the State had also supplied its police for security at the Tihar jail and charged for it.

The report of the Director-General of Police on replacing the ITBP with State police is awaited.

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Re: And Afzal Guru will live a very long life

Why not put these guys in a cage in a zoo. You will have added revenues from zoo visitors .. and the resident gorillas will have a good time. Happier animals - more money to government - public gets to take out some frustration (you can sell small stones outside the cage for 200 Rupees each) - everyone happy. Why hang them? They are too valuable.
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