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Rakhiji not sure if you and I have to prove anything but some folks here, they are so disgruntled that they did not get their green card for a long time.. and are still in that horrible exploited coder mode.. hmm and jealousy is something that should not be flaunted but hey they can only flaunt what they have. Rational arguments they don't, rational thoughts they don't and whats more, brains err was in short supply when they were manufactured.. but then you see try hard.. give the 90% reservations, they will still get 20% marks and flaunt their (sanitation) engineering certificate.. poor souls. Even god gave up what can we poor mortals do!!
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What is wrong with wanting to see a striptease? I mean where are your sensibilities? I don't think you are that old yet!! And at your age viagra might help.
I don't get aroused seeing or hearing about a woman suffering humiliation.
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Forget it man, your and mine words are wasted here. They are calling her a bhangan, bitch, etc. These guys are high on their egos, American/Canadian citizenship.. You can clearly see who all are and how they wait for a chance to bring it in discussions. They will vouch for anything goras say.

Pelu ko to bas bahana chahiye.. Jaise woh motel owners green card shirt ki jeb me rakh ke flaunt karte hai na.. Bikul waise hi.
I wont call her bhangan if you assure me that she did not get admission in the medical college based on her quota. She has reached the postion of "Top Diplomat" based only on merit and Bhangi card was used..................

She has never said that she paid the maid lawful salary. So she did break the law by paying her well below the minimum wages.
Now, what all of you guys that support her are saying that, since this was not a big crime and since she is a diplomat............look other way.........

Really !! Is that your argument ??
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I wont call her bhangan if you assure me that she did not get admission in the medical college based on her quota. She has reached the postion of "Top Diplomat" based only on merit and Bhangi card was used..................

She has never said that she paid the maid lawful salary. So she did break the law by paying her well below the minimum wages.
Now, what all of you guys that support her are saying that, since this was not a big crime and since she is a diplomat............look other way.........

Really !! Is that your argument ??
Yes! I am saying that. Look other way. That is the way you should look as well. All are equal at their levels. A diplomat is not equal to a maid. Maid was not restrained... as is established... she just walked out one fine morning. If the maid was not happy with the salary... there is always the option of returning to India and get a nice paying job in some household cleaning dishes.

Not established that she promised higher wages and paid lower once the maid got to usa.

The maid should be put in Indian jail.
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I don't get aroused seeing or hearing about a woman suffering humiliation.
Are you saying you would love witnessing rapes?
Depends on who is getting "raped" .. folks like a few here who get verbally raped yes. Otherwise no.

The problem with these guys is.. they are masochists.. Unless someone gives it to them, they cannot digest their food. They come here expressly for that and so why disappoint them. Agreed sec 377 and all that but hey what are friends for.

As for a public figure.. well verbal rape is ok be it advani, sonia or some ragade or pattis.. who the fukk cares.

This "diplomat" promised 4500 bucks and paid 500 bucks.. so she got the royal "screw" up her esteemed "arse". But she was itching for it and got it so now why complain?

Saala Govt of India cannot provide dometic help to their "diplomats" coal gate, shaol gate etc not withstanding.. bhugto saale

And as for retailiation.. sure sure.. try it.

And as for others who are crying (not you kranti.. I was just pulling your leg) hey you wanted it you got it.

And your question kranti about enjoying WATCHING rape.. yes in movies if it is part of a story line of that movie. In real life? Well never had a chance so how can I tell if I will like it or not? It is like asking me do you like to eat elephant meat!! I mean never ate it so how can I tell if I like it or not?

Theoritically speaking.. no. Any kind of forcible subjugation is inhuman.. but just for shits and giggles I will not hesitate to be an ass to piss a few people off.

Gandu hain saale.. khoob-ragade yaar (pun accidental) pan they come back for more.. ab saali lat hi aisi hai koi kyaa kare inkaa. Nawab chalegaye nawaabi shauk chor gaye..
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Yes! I am saying that. Look other way. That is the way you should look as well. All are equal at their levels. A diplomat is not equal to a maid. Maid was not restrained... as is established... she just walked out one fine morning. If the maid was not happy with the salary... there is always the option of returning to India and get a nice paying job in some household cleaning dishes.

Not established that she promised higher wages and paid lower once the maid got to usa.

The maid should be put in Indian jail.
It's not higher wages, its minimum wages .............Big difference.......
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For all those who are finding her HOT....





suddenly her pics are everywhere on news sites and channels.. Sab tharki hain......
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suddenly her pics are everywhere on news sites and channels.. Sab tharki hain......
She is
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Rakhi.. I don't care much if you are disappointed. I was too when you instead of defending/standing up for a woman, you are joining these morons in over analyzing when you have incomplete data.

P.S. keep reading the news, its already clear that the maid lady has been trying to negotiate by using her lawyers and when Devyani did not yield, she has complained on false grounds. Meanwhile the maid's family has flown to US only recently.. might just teach you guys to learn to wait for data before theorizing.
I give up...no point in even telling you. BTW, I stand up for what is right. I do not stand up depending on the gender.
Like I said several times which you have very conveniently ignored, I feel sorry for the lady and i seriously do not understand how I have offended you if I say "if she paid less than minimum wage, she committed a fraud"...
My last response to you on this thread as you seem to read what you want and not what I actually wrote.
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Re: Devyani Khobragade incident: What's your take?

Why is everyone getting their panties in a bunch over all this???

Let due process take its due course in due time so we can get the due result. Until then .. Khobragade ko dekhkar hum bhi khub ragade.
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Who in their right mind would pay 4,500 per month for a cleaning lady? that too an Indian?! This should have been caught right when they were in the application stage...I say, someone should investigate and see why US immigration department failed to question this at the application stage itself.
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This I can understand but what I dont understand is why it warranted a strip search for a visa fraud.
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By the way, is strip search a standard protocol for criminal charges? If yes, I do not see how diplomatic immunity would protect her an give her privileges.
I find it absurd that the actual charge against her is sidelined an she is being made a hero.
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I am only saying what I am reading. I am not telling that the way she was treated was right. It was abhorable...for a visa fraud. However, the charges which were originally laid on her (false as it may) were human trafficking and it was a criminal charge. I am guessing some protocols were not followed when she was arrested but when it comes to criminal charges, is anyone an exception to the rule how they are treated?



When it comes to dometic help, i dont think there are any labor laws in India. Correct me if I am wrong.
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ya?! That's a news to me. Wonder how much the minimum wage is.

I know there are laws and minimum wage concept for daily labors but I didnt know there is one for domestic help.

See I don't buy this thanks giving sale, going in subway and stuff like that. If she was being conservative when it comes to money, she wouldn't have hired full time live-in help along with a full time nanny.
as for taking subway...its quicker than driving and hence she takes it, like every other millionaire in NY.
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Character assassination. Its a big term. I really dont see how I have assassinated her character when I say its common for people to take subway or buy groceries at costco.

I honestly feel this is being blown out of proportions. Yes, it was indeed shameful on the police's part for strip search etc without proper protocols. Yes, I feel she deserves an apology and more (though, it is not going to be enough for the trauma she was put through for a visa fraud).My sympathies with the lady and her family.
What i dont get is, why are the charges laid against her being over shadowed? Being a diplomat and in a very high position, one is expected to live by the standards. Are the investigations even being made if the charges are real?

I was looking at news and people are saying "we should strip their diplomats here in India"....how low can we fall?
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I am in no position to comment on Dirtys post but I recommend you go back and read Devyanis post and then my post. It was "her" who brought her personal shopping preferences and her preference about how "she" travels.

She is allowed for domestic help...maybe. What she is not allowed is pay less than the minimum wage.

I hate to say this but you disappoint me in this post. You claim I have the holier than thou attitute but you are forgetting, you are worshiping anything Indian without even stopping to consider she has committed a crime if she was paying less than the minimum wage.

I have already said that strip search and dna was not needed and my sympathies with the lady. What is your problem if I question why she was paying less wage in the first place? I am allowed to question right?
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I give up...no point in even telling you. BTW, I stand up for what is right. I do not stand up depending on the gender.
Like I said several times which you have very conveniently ignored, I feel sorry for the lady and i seriously do not understand how I have offended you if I say "if she paid less than minimum wage, she committed a fraud"...
My last response to you on this thread as you seem to read what you want and not what I actually wrote.
for one last time...see my response and see what you ahev assumed Sarvi...high on Canadian citizenship eh? Too bad you fail to see anything else other than what you want to see and read what you want to read.
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I give up...no point in even telling you. BTW, I stand up for what is right. I do not stand up depending on the gender.
Like I said several times which you have very conveniently ignored, I feel sorry for the lady and i seriously do not understand how I have offended you if I say "if she paid less than minimum wage, she committed a fraud"...
My last response to you on this thread as you seem to read what you want and not what I actually wrote.
I'm doing exactly what you do.. You read and respond to sections you feel like, ignore the rest, everyone does that.

Usually I would side with the maid servant but she was being provided bed, boarding and meals. And as of yet Devyani is not proven to be wrong, its only allegations as of now.

Devyani may have committed fraud but Indian govt must take her back scott free. Its all about .. we have money, we are powerful, we have the biggest stockpile of nukes, we will do what we want where we want.

Let me not even start on the number of cases where American govt has done graver things. One of their consulate person killed a person in a road crash in India and still they pressed hard, paid up some money to the victim and got the person to leave without media exposure.

In the case of David Headley for crimes and sinister planning committed in India, the US is not letting Indian courts lay a finger on him as he is an American. In fact in the plea bargain they let him stay in US prisons and that he won't be given away to anybody.
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Usually I would side with the maid servant but she was being provided bed, boarding and meals. And as of yet Devyani is not proven to be wrong, its only allegations as of now.
I do not know about US. But here where I live a minimum wage is a minimum wage. Say, if I get a nanny from Philippines, I am supposed to pay her a minimum wage, say $900 a month. That does not include food/accommodation, vacation and sick days. Those are all extras. We do not get to pay her $450 because I am giving her food etc which will add up to $900. At least thats how it works here. And if I do get caught paying $450, then let me assure you, I can very well be booked under human trafficking (criminal offense). I have seen this happen. Since it was not a high profile case, regular protocols were followed.
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Once again .. kachchees .. guchchaa. This case will progress according to the law. If any wrongdoing is found, they will be punished.

What I dont get is the Indians all up in arms about this. Idiots dont know how to treat Indian citizens IN INDIA .. should we even start talking about what happens in lockups ... police brutality .. rishwatkhori ... third degree .. women getting raped in police station (statement leni hai) .. list goes on. It happens. Sab chalta hai. But when some ragada maal gets arrested in public in the US, now we all develop a conscience?? Ridiculous!!
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