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Old October 31st, 2013, 12:34 PM
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Belief in the concept of Drishti/nazar?

Do any of you here believe in the concept of buri-nazar/ drishti here on EC? I do. When bad things keep happening in life (i was reading Gpels story), i believe it could be because of buri-nazar.

I notice that when ever someone compliments my daughter a lot, the next day she falls sick. At the cost of sounding stupid, I must admit that I think its because of buri-nazar.

Do anyone else here believe in this concept?
I know..all this education/re-location havnt really done much for me I guess
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Re: Belief in the concept of Drishti/nazar?

I believe in it deep inside , not believe exactly buy am sort of apprehensive about it ki kahin kissj ki nazar na lag jaaye but to others in real life I never admit and shun it as bukwaas to keep their pecker up.Today you are the first person on earth to whom I have opened my secret.

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Yes ... sounds stupid ... please don't quote me on this because I believe. I have reasons to believe. Rakhiji, you can take preventive measures to protect precious, if you haven't already. God may or not exist ... evil does.


Gpel? He left long before you arrived. Story? What story?
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Re: Belief in the concept of Drishti/nazar?

If you believe prayers work then buri nazar also creates pains tho science could not prove both.
At times the buri nazar is not intentional so the effects r temporary and not that harmful,like the neighbour comes in stares at the little one thinking and saying how cute she is,how intelligent she is.You have to sense these types of compliments and do the nazar utarna,now this is region specific or everyfamily has their own way so ask you grandmother and she will guide u.
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Rakhi ji.. Thoda thoughting thoughting par joor daalna padenga.. gotta have a smoke and makemyself a cup of tea and shall be back and give you mithoughts as they occur or I think they occured.. bataunga ich..

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Do any of you here believe in the concept of buri-nazar/ drishti here on EC? I do. When bad things keep happening in life (i was reading Gpels story), i believe it could be because of buri-nazar.

I notice that when ever someone compliments my daughter a lot, the next day she falls sick. At the cost of sounding stupid, I must admit that I think its because of buri-nazar.

Do anyone else here believe in this concept?
I know..all this education/re-location havnt really done much for me I guess

Buri-nazar / Dhristi is bullshit. It's people making vague connections.

I don't believe in it.
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First a disclaimer.. a) This post of mine is rather haphazard. b) I will post it oringinal.. then if it requires reorg, it will go into notepad and get under the scissors. c) Language no bar so if you are the sensitive kinds, stay away.. not gonna loose the point for sakes of diplomacy d)I don't care a rats arse what you think of me after reading this or before reading this or sans reading this.

So here I go.

First, Nazar buri or achi and a power to cast one on another (except vaasana ki nazar etc which are purely lulli driven) is a total ambuk.. why first let us look at power.

What is power.. a certain skill or influence if exercised gives another or self a degree of pleasure/pain/benefit and/or safety.

So let me tell you a story as in religious scriptures. Some rakshasa goes and does a tapasyaa and pleases parvati.. parvati is wife of MAHAdev.. ie. gods of gods.. does it even make sense.. well lets say for argument yes. Now something or other happens she becomes KALI.. now gods are peeing in their ppojaneeya undies.. some one got to stop her.. why cos she will destroy brahmaand.. now why all gods are worried.. it is brahma's aand under threat.. all others should watch the fun right? wrong.. the thing is it is brahmaand as in universe is under threat.. i.e the very existence of everything is in threat.. (question.. where would parvati/kali be after that once EVERY THING is destroyed? if she is still there, obviously the premise is wrong (well everything did not get destroyed as she is still there) therefore she is not powerful.. so no need to worry.. but hey..lets play along... Lets assume another scenario.. Parvati a.k.a kali (call her mugambo if you feel better) destroys the proverbial brahmaand what ever it is.. and is still there post.. now she has power.. what for? who is she gonna use the power on? there is nothing to use it on.. therefore are you powerful or are you powerless? what will you do with this surplus power.. you cannot export it either.. achaar daloge? aur daloge to kaise..masaala to haiich nahi!! so there are more holes in these religious stories than swiss cheese.

Another one.. just one okey and besides rakhi asked if being verbose helps.. so this post will help her make up her mind either ways.

When my dad passed away PBUH, The pandit saw a golden egg laying hen in me.. hey umrika mein note chaapela hai so why not rob him blind.. sure sure. So normal ceremonial fee of 100 would be inflated to 1000 of course it would be an extra long session so as to avoid questioning from other attendees so throw in a few more utterly incomprehensible sanskrit shlokas and you just made extra 900.. anyways I played along till the 6th day..then there is a lull till 10th.. on 5th evening he says you gotta gift (well daan) a healthy cow and calf on that day to help your dad to heaven, 3 tulsi leaves made of gold 24 carats no less. and a sliver lota and a silver tumbler and a silver spoon and silk dhoti and silk shawl (called angavastram in sanskrit)

So far with me.. ok lets proceed

I went umm.. I asked him pliss explain (I was normal then the abnormality upstairs is a later happens).. He says your dad, as per scriptures, has reached a point where he has 2 roads.. one a solid one he can walk on but goes straight to hell.. and another a raging river.. which he has to cross to reach heaven. I go ok..so far makes sense (Well in a way says laloo prasad yadav was overseeing road projects at the time of heaven hell construction).. pliss continue. He goes, to cross the river he needs the cow. He says he will sit atop the cow and the cow will ferry him across. I asked him to stop there before continueing and said I might alter his plan a bit even if it is credible, it has a singular problem which I shall state. And he agrees. I said explain the next item. he says the gold tulsi patta 3 in number is one to be used as a plate (a. la. banana leave) another to be used as a aasan.. i.e a seat, and third as currency. I say ok thee are a few issues in this one too and I will come to that. The silver lota for water and glass to drink water from.. I said sorta problems in logic there too.. and the silk cloths for wearing defies logic but ok that one I will perhaps agree without bating an eye lid.

So the pundit goes.. now please explain your reservations.

1. Cow and Calf to help cross a river. I asked him need I say more? He goes.. wlll please still explain.. I said I would prefer I donate a crocodile to you.. see micheal phelps won't agree and we have no petrol pumps there so motorized thingys are out of question and it is raging river and my dad ain't no white water dude.. so croc it has to be.. it is a good swimmer. Since when did cows swim raging water and what is the calf for.. and how do you propose to make the cow agree to let my dad board it.. and the calf to play along and how do you propose my dad agrees to such a splendid idea? how in this honest world can one use a cow to cross a raging river..first I have heard of it and are there any documented success stories? I think he would much readily agree to mount a croc instead. And dad being a resonable gent with all his marbles intact would be mighty angry nay livid at me for even suggesting, heck for even contemplating, such an idiotic idea to cross a river sitting on a cow (laughable images I say) and a raging one at that... He would much rather jump in it and attempt it himself or worse choose the road instead to hell and saves every one the trouble, cow included. Pundit was gaping at me.

2. Tulsi leaf for assorted uses. I said show me one tulsi leaf you can sit on or eat off and I will agree with your proposition.. and he suggests you can substitute a sliver plate instead.. I said I have a better idea for him in the end but for now gold leaf is a no no.. so in our list there is presently a croc..

3. The lota glass business. I said agreed.. he will need water and something to drink off of. but one lota does not make sense.. I mean the same lota for drinking and washing your ass is unhygenic.. and a person with a lota can drink off of the lota itself.. and my dad hates to take bath in cold water.. so a platic bucket, a mug, a platic waterbottle, soap, shampoo, brush, comb, change of cloths, shaving kit, towel, an immersion water heater and a few rolls of toilet paper might serve better.

4. Silk cloths.. I said that I entirely will leave it up to you.

So the list is as follows.. a croc, a foldable chair, currency of his choice, disposable paper plates, pastic bucket, immersion heater, makeup kit with shaving kit, towel, shit load of toilet paper makes more sense and that sillly silk dress if it make you the pundit preciding the cerimony.

He says but the scriptures does not say that.. I said righto.but the scripture says one more thing you conveniently ignored..he goes what..

I said in front of all my elders to their astonishment and embarrassment.. the scriptures suggest a loud, resounding and painful kick in the holy behind of the person suggesting such an idiotic idea..

He got angry.. I told him to get the fukk out before I lose it.

Ok so much for belief systems..

Oh don't think I haven't prayed... I have just ONCE.. when my wifey was suffering I told god.. dude if you fukking exist and there exists something called a reasonable sized brain in you to justify your fukking existence, and if it is true you are so fukking powerful.. please put an end to her suffering. end it all..why keep giving her pain..I mean what is the fun in flogging a helpless almost dead horse.. enuf already you ass.. be it.. end it.. let it be.. let her go in peace you numb nut.. who in his right minds gave you such arbitrary powers anyway without consulting me or at the very least giving you an IQ test you ass.

and yes that was my prayer.

Rakhi I hope you can find the hidden answers to all your mystical question in my not so incoherent post.
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Buri-nazar / Dhristi is bullshit. It's people making vague connections.

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This shouldn't have come to you as a surprise. Panditism is no longer a service ... its commerce, a very profitable business. You screw belief system of followers ... but, hey, it brings in the loot. Your friend was scum ... you think so? ... wait till you visit India's teerath sthans likes of Haridwar and kashi and dozens more. HEY RAM. Make that in bold. HEY RAM! And make that loud red. HEY RAM!

But ...

You are being unfair. You will curse entire medical profession cause one doctor screwed you? There are good brahmins out there. You won't find them in NJ or NY or India's large cities or holy places. You will have to go through 99 to find one who knows his crafts and doesn't give a shit for greed of money ... you will find one after 99, if you are lucky. I got lucky.
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1. teerath sthans likes of Haridwar and kashi and dozens more. HEY RAM. Make that in bold. HEY RAM! And make that loud red. HEY RAM!

2.I got lucky.
on point 1.. I did visit the following.. badrinath, gangotri, haridwar, rishikesh, yamunotri, mahakaleshwar ujjain, mathura and brindavan, kashi, rudra prayaag, varanasi, rameshwaram, many spots in south kerela, jayalalitha land, NTR land, Rajashekar, Shirdi Land etc etc cos mom wanted to see em.. and me for just touring.. can't remember the whole nine yards and gave them (the pandas there who are organized crime imo) a royal screw to my mom's and sis's horror as she/they is/are ULTRA orthodox and religious and guess what she (my sis) has doctorate in education and in political science.. so not a numb skull by any means..

On second point good for you.. did you enjoy it is a more pertinent question though.
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Just as a confirmation to my observations think about it how and you will understand..

Dr. Z.A. Khan, an eminent cardiologist and a childhood friend of mine.. passed away yesternight due to heart attack (aged 48) as per news just reaching me from a few friends' phone calls.

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So what does this tell you? What do you gather from this?
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Yes, I agree with you. Believing burdens brain. Why burden brains when disbeliefmenent is cheap way out. I agree with you.


huh? You have it bass ackwards. Believing is the cheap way out. Applying scientific rigor and logic burdens brains.

I won't regurgitate my previous arguments. I don't know a whole lot, but I know what I know and I know what I don't know. I do know, without a doubt, that astrology is bullshit. Dhristi/Nazar is also bullshit. These are semi-dangerous afflictions that can destroy an individual, relations, communities and even nations. In India, this nonsense has escalated to extreme levels, so I don't even feel like joking about it.
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Zyzzva, your secret is safe with me…lol

Badriji, I try to take some preventive measures. But the methods I know doesn’t seem to be suitable when I send her to daycare. May I know if you know any methods?

Swami…yes, if prayers work, so do nazar thingy. Something like Yin and Yang perhaps?

Kalidas, lets agree to disagree.
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GpeL, Your post was very cryptic. Being mysterious is supposed to be our (womanís) forteÖ that and faking an O. Please donít take it away from us.
Also you donít need a disclaimer. It really doesnít matter what you feel about this as I am open to respectfully differ from your point of view.

There is energy everywhere and I am sure we both are on the same page on this. Now, I believe there is positive energy and negative energy.
Second concept is the presence of physical aura around us which lies in perfect harmony, if you are healthy in body and mind. Now, letís look at these two concepts together. When the negative energy (even in the form of envious thoughts, hatred etc) flows towards you, it disturbs the aura surrounding you, disturbing the peace/flow. The strength of that emotion/negative energy flowing towards you causes the pain and suffering.

This is what I call is Nazar/drishti.

On the flip side is the good energy. Now, I realize that you do not believe in the concept of prayer. Fine. No arguments there. A prayer is a highly overrated concept anyway. A lot of people (seemingly you too) think that a prayer is directed towards someoneÖlike God. In reality, you donít need to direct your prayer to someone above. You just need to channel your positive thoughts exclusively on one thing and you will see that the power of those thoughts can change the course of outcome.



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