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Old April 24th, 2013, 09:56 AM
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Re: Aarushi was with Hemraj at the Bed: CBI

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Yes. There was the clinic assistant krishna. He was reprimanded the day before the murder by Rajesh talwar for ordering a wrong part for his practice. He also happens to be friends with Hemraj. Hemraj invited him (I think there was another guy involved, forget his name) for drinks. After drinking, they all proceed to the girls room where Krishna tries to assault the girl. Hemraj protests. krishna and his accomplice then kill both.

He and his accomplice both clean up the room. Actually, blood was every where. What he was cleaning up was the evidence.

Initially, the wounds and cut on the girls throat was said to be inflicted by a blunt knife. Later it was said that the knife used is clinical and could have been gotten from the clinic. This again shows that Hemraj was as much a victim as Aarushi is.

This is not me saying...dont get any ideas that I am writing a crime based novel . This was the story said by CBI a while ago. This matches with Krishna's confessions on tests.
So CBI saying that Aarushi and Hemraj were in objectionable position in her bedroom is not true?
Why will they try to save Krishna and his accomplice?If anything,there are more chances of Aarushi's affluent parents bribing CBI officers.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 10:18 AM
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Re: Aarushi was with Hemraj at the Bed: CBI

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So CBI saying that Aarushi and Hemraj were in objectionable position in her bedroom is not true?
Why will they try to save Krishna and his accomplice?If anything,there are more chances of Aarushi's affluent parents bribing CBI officers.
May be that's exactly the reason...!!
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Old April 24th, 2013, 10:18 AM
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So CBI saying that Aarushi and Hemraj were in objectionable position in her bedroom is not true?
Why will they try to save Krishna and his accomplice?If anything,there are more chances of Aarushi's affluent parents bribing CBI officers.
The CBI is speculating about Hemraj's objectionable position. They don't have a shred of evidence. It's not as if they found his semen on the girl. It's not as if there is a video recording. It's not as if there is a witness.

Then again, if the evidence was all cleaned up, they wouldn't find it anyways.

Bribing and all, I wouldn't know. You're right that the servant couldn't possibly influence this investigation, while the parents, at least in theory, have the ability.

Anyway, they contaminated the crime scene heavily. This is the third stance the CBI is taking. They had the first team. Then they had a second team, recommending case closure. Now this team. Hopelessly muddled.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 10:23 AM
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May be that's exactly the reason...!!
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exactly the reason

parents bribing CBI to save krishna and the other guy's asses and getting jail for themselves.

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Old April 24th, 2013, 10:26 AM
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exactly the reason

parents bribing CBI to save krishna and the other guy's asses and getting jail for themselves.

Premi Saab... Read the context... Napolean Sir speculated that Aarushi's Parents are in a better position to bribe CBI sleuths...!! So CBI has all the valid reasons to arraign Talwars... Because in doing so they might raise the probability of getting a bribe from Talwars....!! Ufff... Kitna type karna padta hai itni garmi mein...!!
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Old April 24th, 2013, 10:28 AM
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The crime scene was contaminated right at the very beginning. The neighbours went to watch the tamasha, and the Noida cops had no issues with that. All kinds of evidence must have been contaminated/lost right then.

It's futile trying to find the perpetrators now.

This, supposedly, is India's premier investigative agency. You can imagine how the rest are!
True...not after 5 years.
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So CBI saying that Aarushi and Hemraj were in objectionable position in her bedroom is not true?
Why will they try to save Krishna and his accomplice?If anything,there are more chances of Aarushi's affluent parents bribing CBI officers.
I am only saying that CBI has been contradicting itself since the beginning. As a layman, I fail to see any reason why a parent would murder a child. I mean, what is the motive? According to the autopsy reports, girl was not raped/penetrated. Just because you see a girl in an objectionable position, why would a parent go to the extent of murder? Seems absurd. Parents didn't have any criminal record on them; an objectionable position would warrant anger but not murder.

I don't think CBI is trying to save Krishna per se. Its just that, they couldn't prove that krishna had committed the murder. They just have a confession but no proof.
Aarushi's parents maybe affluent but not to the extent of buying the entire CBI.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 10:29 AM
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Premi Saab... Read the context... Napolean Sir speculated that Aarushi's Parents are in a better position to bribe CBI sleuths...!! So CBI has all the valid reasons to arraign Talwars... Because in doing so they might raise the probability of getting a bribe from Talwars....!! Ufff... Kitna type karna padta hai itni garmi mein...!!

After 5 years of getting a bribe from the talwar family now they dont have any reason to speculate them again I think.

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Re: Aarushi was with Hemraj at the Bed: CBI

I just need to add that the parents have always co-operated with police. never did they not attend ant hearing etc. Its unlikely its them.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 10:33 AM
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Re: Aarushi was with Hemraj at the Bed: CBI

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I just need to add that the parents have always co-operated with police. never did they not attend ant hearing etc. Its unlikely its them.
Even I think, its unlikely for parents to kill Neha... They were earlier accused of 'swapping' games etc... I think a lot of character assassination has been done... Now this is...!! I think this case should be closed... Police and CBI did a very bad job at collection of evidence...
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After 5 years of getting a bribe from the talwar family now they dont have any reason to speculate them again I think.

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I am only saying that CBI has been contradicting itself since the beginning. As a layman, I fail to see any reason why a parent would murder a child. I mean, what is the motive?
My personal opinion is that it is IMPOSSIBLE that Arushi's parents killed her. The numbskulls at the CBI are screwing their lives.

OK, let's say for argument sake that they found Arushi and Hemraj in an objectionable position (whatever that means, having sex?).

As parents, they would be upset and angry at their 14 year-old daughter.

Would they use violence, like hitting so hard with a golf club so as to cause death? I can't imagine them doing that.

This is an only child of two urban dentists, a girl they doted on. Of course, they would be upset and reprimand her.

These are not the types of people who do "honour killings." They married across caste and language, that wouldn't be their mindset.
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My personal opinion is that it is IMPOSSIBLE that Arushi's parents killed her. The numbskulls at the CBI are screwing their lives.

OK, let's say for argument sake that they found Arushi and Hemraj in an objectionable position (whatever that means, having sex?).

As parents, they would be upset and angry at their 14 year-old daughter.

Would they use violence, like hitting so hard with a golf club so as to cause death? I can't imagine them doing that.

This is an only child of two urban dentists, a girl they doted on. Of course, they would be upset and reprimand her.

These are not the types of people who do "honour killings." They married across caste and language, that wouldn't be their mindset.
Exactly...They wouldnt have killed the girl. CBI has drilled everyone who was acquainted with them to get a feel of the case. Every witness told that the parents doted on the girl. This cannot have been a fit of anger.

P.S: She wasnt penetrated according to the autopsy reports. So, whatever it is, cannot have been sex.
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Exactly...They wouldnt have killed the girl. CBI has drilled everyone who was acquainted with them to get a feel of the case. Every witness told that the parents doted on the girl. This cannot have been a fit of anger.

P.S: She wasnt penetrated according to the autopsy reports. So, whatever it is, cannot have been sex.
So you are also a traditionalist who tends to think that sex means only penetration....!!
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So you are also a traditionalist who tends to think that sex means only penetration....!!
Rahul, she was what, 13? Not 30.
Its unlikely that they would be doing ...you know what I mean. Also, I dont for one minute believe she was in any position with Hemraj. This is just story. They had nothing going on.
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