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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

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2.5 percent of the GDP . Even in the TOI article
( whose link is given in the first post of this thread ) 2.5 percent of the GDP is thought as ideal figure. It will make India a major military power.
for an economy that's growing at 6-7%, that's quite unnecessary. Incidentally, compared to last year, this years defence budget is 7+% (number should be easy enough to find out) more.


NATO (hopefully you will agree) is an organisation of most militarised nations on the earth, requires its members to spend 2% of their GDP on defence. majority of those nations growth currently is under or near 1%! the US is unhappy because those members dont even spend that 2% of sometimes shrinking economies.


Finally, without a plan in place, what is the point of just throwing money at defence - Will it make India a major military power in a year?

more than money available, I would prefer to ask the government what are their plans on getting the rest of the Rafales, what about the roads in the border areas and so on.....
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Old February 6th, 2018, 07:07 AM
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for an economy that's growing at 6-7%, that's quite unnecessary. Incidentally, compared to last year, this years defence budget is 7+% (number should be easy enough to find out) more.


NATO (hopefully you will agree) is an organisation of most militarised nations on the earth, requires its members to spend 2% of their GDP on defence. majority of those nations growth currently is under or near 1%! the US is unhappy because those members dont even spend that 2% of sometimes shrinking economies.


Finally, without a plan in place, what is the point of just throwing money at defence - Will it make India a major military power in a year?

more than money available, I would prefer to ask the government what are their plans on getting the rest of the Rafales, what about the roads in the border areas and so on.....
NATO has America for help is case a real threat emerges . India has nobody.

More rafale fighterjets require more funds . The rafale is extremely expensive.

Of course India will not become a major military power in one year. The defence expenditure must be fixed at 2.5 percent of the GDP permanently for years and decades for that . In fact a law must be passed fixing defence expenditure at 2.5 percent of the GDP.
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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.e...ark-Milley/amp

Here is what a US general has to say about the army of UK , which is part of supposedly heavily militarized NATO .
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Old February 6th, 2018, 07:57 AM
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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showpo...7&postcount=30

Also read this post which you seem to have forgot to read .
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Old February 6th, 2018, 09:24 AM
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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

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NATO has America for help is case a real threat emerges . India has nobody.
you are missing the point I am making - which is that even major military powers do not spend that much money on their defence budget.


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More rafale fighterjets require more funds . The rafale is extremely expensive.

Of course India will not become a major military power in one year. The defence expenditure must be fixed at 2.5 percent of the GDP permanently for years and decades for that . In fact a law must be passed fixing defence expenditure at 2.5 percent of the GDP.
do you know if the current increase in defence budget does not cover more Rafales? I thought it was already provisioned for depending on their supply dates.
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you are missing the point I am making - which is that even major military powers do not spend that much money on their defence budget.
NATO powers are major powers based on their ability to produce advanced military equipment . but the size of their militaries has been shrinking and making them less powerful . for example britain today will find it difficult to defend falklands if another war breaks out with argentina .
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do you know if the current increase in defence budget does not cover more Rafales? I thought it was already provisioned for depending on their supply dates.
it has money only for 36 rafales not any more . or rather the payment of 36 rafales will be spread over three years and the money will be payed 1/3 rd 1/3rd 1/3rd every year for just 36 rafales .
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Also read this post which you seem to have forgot to read .
what does that post say? I didnt see a criticism of budget allocation. I saw suggested approach to dealing with Pakistan's lack of respect to the ceasefire.
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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/def...w/62903986.cms

Finally government gives initial clearance to purchase of mostly infantry weapons after samjhuvan terror attack. This purchase will take years to actually happen. But when it happens infantry small arms will get a big boost--- no less than 7.4 lakh assault rifles have been sanctioned. Meanwhile 16500 light machine guns have been fast tracked .
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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/def...w/63114769.cms

Immediate procurement of 41000 light machine guns and 3.5 lakh close quarter battle carbines approved .
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Immediate procurement of 41000 light machine guns and 3.5 lakh lose quarter battle carbines approved .
stockpiling for war? or is this regular replenishment?
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stockpiling for war? or is this regular replenishment?
no . regular replenishment .
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or rather to deal with the extremely heightened tensions in kashmir and heavy firing on the LOC .
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Re: Government's outlay for defence in military budget dashes hopes for military modernisation

frankly , pakistani soldiers are better equipped than indian soldiers . the new procurement will try to bridge the gap between indian and pakistani soldiers in equipment .
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