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Old August 11th, 2009, 03:55 PM
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India no match for China, says Navy chief

Rahul Singh, Hindustan Times

New Delhi, August 11, 2009

Should war break out between India and China, we are doomed.

Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta publicly admitted on Monday that India was no match for China and there was no way New Delhi could bridge the yawning gap in its capabilities against China.

He said it would be foolhardy to compare the two nations as equals.

Mehta, who retires on August 31 at the age of 62, warned: “In military terms, both conventionally and unconventionally, we can neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force…”

It is rare for service chiefs in India to articulate their concerns loudly. The government disapproves of it. But when a chief makes such a prophesy, he has to be taken seriously.

He said Beijing was in the process of consolidating its comprehensive national power and creating formidable military capability. “Once that is done, China is likely to be more assertive on its claims, especially in the immediate neighbourhood,” said Mehta, who as the Chairman, Chiefs of Staff Committee, is the country’s senior most military commander.

His remarks come barely two months after former IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major said China was a greater threat to India than Pakistan as little was known about the communist nation’s combat capabilities.

He saw ominous signs everywhere while delivering a talk on India’s national security challenges on Monday. “Whether in terms of GDP, defence spending or any other economic, social or development parameter, the gap between the two is just too wide to bridge (and getting wider by the day).”

Mehta backed his claims with figures. He said India’s annual defence expenditure of roughly $30 billion paled in front of China’s defence spending. He said the Americans pegged China’s defence budget between $70 billion and $200 billion.

“Our trust deficit with China can never be liquidated unless our boundary problems are resolved…Coping with China will certainly be one of our primary challenges in the years ahead.”

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This is BS.

India is no match for China! Really? Big a deal. India is no match for Pakistan and Bangla Desh either ... but Indians need not worry cause we are protected.

We got three what these three don't got.

1. We got Gandhiji's most potent mantra ... Passive Mantra! It works like charm. Firangee ko baga diya to China, Pakistan, Bangla Desh kis khet ki mulli.

2. We got another potent protection. Our Dear Leaders of Nehru clan and Kangress party warriors.

3. We got lethal weapon in the person of Our Dear Leader Mohan. He will invite them leaders to tea ceremony ... Our Dear Leader will bore them till all enemies bow down on all fours and accept defeat.
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This is BS.

India is no match for China! Really? Big a deal. India is no match for Pakistan and Bangla Desh either ... but Indians need not worry cause we are protected.

We got three what these three don't got.

1. We got Gandhiji's most potent mantra ... Passive Mantra! It works like charm. Firangee ko baga diya to China, Pakistan, Bangla Desh kis khet ki mulli.

2. We got another potent protection. Our Dear Leaders of Nehru clan and Kangress party warriors.

3. We got lethal weapon in the person of Our Dear Leader Mohan. He will invite them leaders to tea ceremony ... Our Dear Leader will bore them till all enemies bow down on all fours and accept defeat.
This capability of MMS is unsurpassable , all these years I could never make sense of what he's trying to say .
One single Naval unit of China will be able to conquer India in less than 24 hours.
With Bangladesh it will be a long fight probably weeks and with our state of art SLR's Bangladeshis will initially get a setback , Al Qaida and ULFA ultimately with millions of baggerdashis will trample our great nation .
But Nepal , Bhutan and Sri Lanka still recognise our military might , so guys there is always a silver lining. We have to be optimistic ALWAYS.
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One single Naval unit of China will be able to conquer India in less than 24 hours.
and pigs can fly .....
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and pigs can fly .....
Well they will definitely .... Optimism my friend gives us a false sense of belief . We have been slaves for centuries because of this belief only.
One single unit and 24 hrs is sarcastic but yeah we don't stand .00000001 % chance to even have a respectable confrontation with chinese might.
And Yeah our Indian Politicans ( pigs ) will definitely fly to safe havens once that happens - and it has to happen in near future as China's got no choice and then more and more signatures in future will be doted with bravest of the brave one's.
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I was just looking at the world map and wondering, in case there is a India-China navy fight, where exactly would either country attack from I duno much about how it works, but the map shows all-land-no-sea surroundings between the two countries, which practically doesn't seem encouraging for a navy encounter.. hmm?
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and pigs can fly .....

yeah they did actually....swine flew
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We may hate our Government and our Politicians but India post 1962 debacle with China and mainly under PVN and Vajpayee and Indira Gandhi has emerged has one of the World's most Cunning Diplomatic Powers which effectively uses a combination of Millitary Might and Diplomatic Power.

Just Imagine we have a Palestenian kind of Problem in kashmir but does anybody care globally. When ever Indian Government wants Kashmiris are shown protesting and when it wants there is complete china kind of blockage.

What Navy Chief is using is a clear Deviating tactics to massage the Egoes of Chinese. Chinese are not fools but yes this will ease out a pressure little bit.

Just watch out India is going to grow its Navy to its most Powerful strike option.
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But in any case India and China must Cooperate and not fight as the Colonial Powers did in 19th century resulting in 2 World Wars. We both have to together capture the World
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India has one of the World's most Cunning Diplomatic Powers
so why cant we handle a small problem called pak.........
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We both have to together capture the World
Randheer , this is nothing but jingoism ,and it is galling.
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Just watch out India is going to grow its Navy to its most Powerful strike option.
Randheer , you stick to politics , you are good at it.......

Your knowledge of military matters however ,is nowhere close ........
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so why cant we handle a small problem called pak.........
We have handled it na. If you are 35 plus then you must remmeber that how difficult was it to handle Pakistan in 1980-1995 as Pakistanis are probbaly the only Islamic country who are sophisticated and with good command over English and have capability to fool Americans again and again.In fact they fooled every one. Iraq/Iran are much silly when compared to Pakistan.

But see what happened to them in last 10 years. Now they are getting their own Hounds killed by American Drones and begging money for it .

We have to allow USA to arm us as it did for Pakistan in 1960s but we have to not take any fight against China. We have to become friend with USA and powerful but not against China.

We do not have to do the mistake which Colonial powers did in 19th century.
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