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Old December 11th, 2009, 10:51 AM
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This is sad. What is the Goa government doing? There is so much tourism there and we attract so much foreign currency in Goa due to tourism.

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Panaji: Concerned over the spurt in incidents of sexual assault on women tourists, Goa tourism minister Fransisco Pacheco said today the state may gain notoriety as the "rape capital" of India.

In a letter to chief minister Digamber Kamat, Pacheco said an impression was gaining ground that the police in Goa was either "grossly incompetent or influenced by other factors", as a result of which complaints were not properly investigated.

The minister was referring to the recent alleged rape of a 25-year-old Russian by a high-profile South Goa politician John Fernandes.

"Goa may soon, if police inaction or ineffectiveness continues, gain reputation as the rape capital of India, a situation which cannot be permitted to develop at any cost," Pacheco said in the missive he shot off to Kamat today.

Pacheco, who recently received a letter from Russian consul general in Mumbai Alexander Mantytsky seeking proper investigation into the alleged rape and police harassment of the victim, said it was "disheartening" to note that foreign consulates and embassies were called upon to intervene in matters involving their nationals, which was entirely due to failure of the police to take prompt action on complaints lodged by foreigners.

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Rape capital of India is same as political capital, Delhi.
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we are seriously thinking of buying a shotgun for my aunt's house there.The russian mafia and their whores,just ladt month killed our tulshi vrindavan by dumping more than 100 grams of pure cocaine in it.They did it to avoid the raid.But this was the limit.Lat year the whores troubled us by asking for the key to toilet.When they were deinied they pooped right in front of the door in purpose.They sometimes knock on the door very late asking for food and whine in their poor english that they had no business and stuff.

those who are getting raped are not the locals but the tourists and the russian whores.I never support rape but if you wear skimpy clothes and you are high on drugs ,you are vulnerable.
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we are seriously thinking of buying a shotgun for my aunt's house there.The russian mafia and their whores,just ladt month killed our tulshi vrindavan by dumping more than 100 grams of pure cocaine in it.They did it to avoid the raid.But this was the limit.Lat year the whores troubled us by asking for the key to toilet.When they were deinied they pooped right in front of the door in purpose.They sometimes knock on the door very late asking for food and whine in their poor english that they had no business and stuff.

those who are getting raped are not the locals but the tourists and the russian whores.I never support rape but if you wear skimpy clothes and you are high on drugs ,you are vulnerable.
Hey, are you Goan? I thought Goans were not pro-national. Or is it that only Goans of some religion dislike rest of country???
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the culture in goa is too different. Skimpy clothes, beaches....alcohol, drugs
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Hey, are you Goan? I thought Goans were not pro-national. Or is it that only Goans of some religion dislike rest of country???
the goan muslims are complicated,mostly involved in smuggling activities since they own trawlers.The christians are cool but quite fanatic about their religion.Konkni which actually has devanagari scripts has been opposed by the Catholics.They want it to be roman.The last time when congress came to power they they made it happen by providing option for konkni in both devanagari and roman.

Many environmentalist have been fighting for the removal of body of St.Xavier from the old goa church.It has been preserved for more than 400 years.They put it on display in novemeber - december generally and the way it is preserved is not the most hygenic.But catholics doesnt want it to be buried and all governments have failed to do the right.
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the goan muslims are complicated,mostly involved in smuggling activities since they own trawlers.The christians are cool but quite fanatic about their religion.Konkni which actually has devanagari scripts has been opposed by the Catholics.They want it to be roman.The last time when congress came to power they they made it happen by providing option for konkni in both devanagari and roman.

Many environmentalist have been fighting for the removal of body of St.Xavier from the old goa church.It has been preserved for more than 400 years.They put it on display in novemeber - december generally and the way it is preserved is not the most hygenic.But catholics doesnt want it to be buried and all governments have failed to do the right.
I saw the body of St. Xavier when I went there.... first to me it was hard to believe it was a real human body... but it can't be faked under so much media glare... I dint see any hygeine concern there though...

I love Goa.... it was almost 10 years back...it was a dream trip... with our bus there were two more buses.. all college girls from mumbai.. I don't remember them having any problem... even of eve teasing.. it was pretty safe then... I saw the movie 'Indian" there... it was the last show and walked back to hotel... no problem...
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I saw the body of St. Xavier when I went there.... first to me it was hard to believe it was a real human body... but it can't be faked under so much media glare... I dint see any hygeine concern there though...

I love Goa.... it was almost 10 years back...it was a dream trip... with our bus there were two more buses.. all college girls from mumbai.. I don't remember them having any problem... even of eve teasing.. it was pretty safe then... I saw the movie 'Indian" there... it was the last show and walked back to hotel... no problem...
the conditions under which is stored has been approved as not hygenic enough by the local muncilpality and also a few private agencies.it is about 2 and a half feet now.There have been incidents when the body was being feasted by tiny creatures ,such things never come out since the catholics would be angry and than the body will also be under danger of being buried .

yes goa has always been safe.Goans are of live and let live mentality.They hardly get angry and are very friendly to core.If you are in a public transport with a family and if the conductor comes to know you are in Goa for first time,he will give you a free ride.I have seen this happen atleast 8-10 times and this would not happen in any other part.
The rapists are not goan either but teenagers and youth who migrate to Goa just for some sex and drugs.The local goan man is a family man and god fearing fellow.He would prefer going to a prostitute than raping.
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the goan muslims are complicated,mostly involved in smuggling activities since they own trawlers.The christians are cool but quite fanatic about their religion.Konkni which actually has devanagari scripts has been opposed by the Catholics.They want it to be roman.The last time when congress came to power they they made it happen by providing option for konkni in both devanagari and roman.

Many environmentalist have been fighting for the removal of body of St.Xavier from the old goa church.It has been preserved for more than 400 years.They put it on display in novemeber - december generally and the way it is preserved is not the most hygenic.But catholics doesnt want it to be buried and all governments have failed to do the right.
I mean Goans kind of didn't want merge with Indian federation? There are websites related to Goa's freedom from India.

Do Hindu Goan's also want "freedom" from India? Are you yourself Goan?
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Catholic Goans were sick of portuguese and wanted to end their domination.Hindus were exploited and were deprived from most of their things.The hindus were heavily taxed for not accepting conversion.Most of them like my family had to get out of goa to avoid conversion and live a decent life.
Dayanand Bandodkar ,menezes briganza and many other goans fought hard against portuguese.People like achyut patwardhan,babuji phadke(famous marathi music director) supported the struggle from mumbai and maharashtra by sending people ,who swam acros the aronda creek in maharashtra to sneak into Goa.
After the portuguese left achyut patwardhan who was arrested initially bu them was taken with them.He was rotting in portuguese jails for years.His old mother wrote several letters to Nehru but he never cared.Again Phadke raised money and met SVP and rescued him from portuguese.
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New Delhi: Goa Congress MP Shantaram Naik kicked up a storm in Rajya Sabha on Tuesday by suggesting that some rape victims invite trouble by socialising with "strangers".

Naik angered the opposition, especially women members, when he said a rape case should be treated differently if the victim is known to be moving with strangers beyond midnight.

The MP blamed the media for highlighting the controversial case of a Russian woman working in Goa who claims she was raped earlier this month by a state politician in his car after they had dinner together.

Naik said the electronic media was blowing the case out of proportion. He said while rape was a heinous crime, "...an alleged rape of a lady who moves with strangers for days together even beyond middle of the night is to be treated on a different footing".

Brinda Karat (CPI-M), Najma Heptulla, Maya Singh (BJP) and Jaya Bachchan (SP) led the protests and sought intervention of deputy chairman K Rahman Khan, saying Naik should not be allowed to speak derogatorily of women.

Ravi Shankar Prasad (BJP) said it appeared that Naik was "justifying" rape. Khan then asked the Goa MP to submit his Zero-Hour text for examination and told him that he was going beyond the subject he wanted to raise. The chair expunged his remarks.

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I read this thread and all i read is about sex and drugs. Add rock'n roll and you have the USA in the 60s and 70s USA just waiting for the bra burning feminisim to take place.
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The fact that a Member of Parliament can make a statement as irresponsible as "rape of a lady who moves with strangers for days together and even beyond middle of the night is to be treated on a different footing" shows that in spite of all the advances that women in India have made, patriarchal attitudes are hard to change.

The MP in question is Shantaram Naik of the Congress discussing during Zero Hour in the Rajya Sabha the spate of rape cases in Goa.

Readers may recall the sensational case of the young girl Scarlet Keeling, who was also murdered and the more recent case of a Russian woman who alleged rape by a Goa politician. These, together with cases of strong-arming by the Russian mafia as well as several drug busts, have not helped Goa's image as a friendly tourist destination and it is perhaps possible to understand how that might bother the MP.

However, the tenor and implication of his remark cannot be excused. Our courts have recognised marital rape -- where the question of hanging about with strangers beyond midnight or "conduct unbecoming" hardly applies --as being unacceptable. The woman's right to say 'no' is no longer negotiable and while there are many grey areas in the relations between the sexes, rape is not one of them.

But more than the politics of rape, this is about prevailing attitudes to women. It is not unfair, surely, to expect a Rajya Sabha MP to have a better idea of the Constitution of India and the equal rights given to women in it. Nor is it unfair to expect that he be aware of the prevailing laws of the land. To blame the victim for a heinous crime is not just insensitive; it borders on the criminal.

Rightly, the MP faced the wrath of his fellows in the Rajya Sabha and he was admonished by the deputy chairperson for speaking derogatorily of women. His remarks were expunged from the records but it is necessary for us to comment upon them and to remember them. Because Naik's sentiments are repeated every time there is a case of molestation where the victim does not match some popular perception of what a victim should be like.

This debate will continue because, sadly, Naik represents a section of society which is unashamed about its reprehensible and reactionary ideas about women and life. He must face the opprobrium he deserves; but we need to keep educating the society to which he belongs.

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Catholic Goans were sick of portuguese and wanted to end their domination.Hindus were exploited and were deprived from most of their things.The hindus were heavily taxed for not accepting conversion.Most of them like my family had to get out of goa to avoid conversion and live a decent life.
Dayanand Bandodkar ,menezes briganza and many other goans fought hard against portuguese.People like achyut patwardhan,babuji phadke(famous marathi music director) supported the struggle from mumbai and maharashtra by sending people ,who swam acros the aronda creek in maharashtra to sneak into Goa.
After the portuguese left achyut patwardhan who was arrested initially bu them was taken with them.He was rotting in portuguese jails for years.His old mother wrote several letters to Nehru but he never cared.Again Phadke raised money and met SVP and rescued him from portuguese.
I didn't mean freedom from Portuguese. I meant 'freedom' from Indian state.

I meant this: http://www.freegoa.com/
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I didn't mean freedom from Portuguese. I meant 'freedom' from Indian state.

I meant this: http://www.freegoa.com/
there are some porto-indian handful catholics who feel that way.But they are no threat and they have no support.They dont have a valid reason for it either.They were happy during the portuguese rule.and now they are not.
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